DRSM Madara vs Rinnegan Sasuke

[Omar19992010]

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Intel
Full Intel for Both Sides

Restrictions
Rikudo Chakra

Mindset
Bloodlusted

Scenario II
Both have 50% of Hagoromo's Chakra​

 

[KidGamer65]

EMS Sasuke was inferior to EMS Madara. Thus give them the same power up and Rinnegan Sasuke is inferior to Rinnegan Madara. Ameno is useless due to Susanoo. Madara's Susanoo is superior, and so will the scale of his Rinnegan techs since he has Sage Mode and Hagoromo's chakra while Sasuke only has one of the latter. Not to mention EMS Madara>>EMS Sasuke in chakra overall pre boost.

Madara mid diffs.

Shit. Didn't see that this was S2. Sasuke obviously wins in S1.

 

[Rιver]

Madara negs both scenarios.

 

[Scryed]

I'll give Madara both rounds if Rikudou chakra is restricted in scenario 1.

 

[ARGUS]

Madara wins both scenarios

--Without Rikudo Chakra, Sasukes PS is inferior to madaras regular PS by quite a margin and now madara has the extra senjutsu that boosts his susanoo even more, meaning that sasukes PS gets wrecked. His slashes did nothing to a much less durable kurama avatar, Madaras senjutsu boosted PS tanks them with almost negligible damage.

--PS chidori is sasukes best bet at even scratching madaras PS but at best its only equivalent to a regular TBB from half kurama, madaras regular PS tanked full kyuubis TBB with no damage whatsoever. PS chidori does nothing here at all. Then theres the fact that sasuke needs to land it directly at madara. and resorting to close combat leads to sasukes PS getting manhandled, or PS chidori simply repelled off by ST, or PS simply tanks. So at the end of the day sasuke accomplishes nothing at all by this

--Sasukes 6 path jutsus will be inferior to madaras due to the latter having a senjutsu boost, nor are they even a factor here, and resorting to CQC would result in sasuke getting shat on by the limbos ganging up on him.

--Ameno is good and all but madara has the same choku tomo as sasuke has, and with hashiramas SM as well as his own superor reactions. Sasukes attack gets either blocked by susanoo or he gets blown away by ST, or the limbo clones simply counterattack

Scenario 2 is no different, madaras senjutsu PS > madaras PS > Sasukes PS prior to the rikudo boost, and giving them the exact same boost results in sasuke getting shat on just how he does in scenario 1

 

[Beans2]

Sasuke shits in S1. His Susanoo is far stronger than Madara's considering it's boosted by 50% of Hago's chakra whereas Madara only has his base chakra + tiny rikudou boost from having both rinnegan's and Hashis SM.

 

[Hammock]

Madara wins mid high deff..

 

[Zee U]

If both don't have Rikudou Chakra in S1, Madara wins. Senjutsu PS >> PS.

Madara wins S2 too if this isn't Gaiden Sasuke.

 

[Kagustuchi]

EMS Sasuke was inferior to EMS Madara. Thus give them the same power up and Rinnegan Sasuke is inferior to Rinnegan Madara. Ameno is useless due to Susanoo. Madara's Susanoo is superior, and so will the scale of his Rinnegan techs since he has Sage Mode and Hagoromo's chakra while Sasuke only has one of the latter. Not to mention EMS Madara>>EMS Sasuke in chakra overall pre boost.

Madara mid diffs.

Shit. Didn't see that this was S2. Sasuke obviously wins in S1.

Their chakra is already Senjutsu, Madara's chakra potency wouldn't get any better from having SM. His reflexes and strength would get an extra boost due to benefits, maybe his Shunshin. Since he was above Sasuke in all those latter categories already, there's going to be a decent gap.

Not that this point matters in all honestly, extra boost or none there would be a big gap in their PS.

*Edit: Sasuke negs S1 too though, if he has Rikudo Chakra. Although If its this Hagoromo-less chakra Rinnegan Sasuke that's been popping up in threads recently then Madara takes S1

 

[Rιver]

^ It should be that both have no Rikudo chakra in S1 and both have half of Hagoromo chakra in S2. Madara remains always superior because his regular PS is stronger than Sasukes.

So he takes both scenarios mid diff.

 

[Unorthodox]

Now this is a person Adult rinnegan Sasuke should be compared to hmmmmmm

Its hard to judge

Sasuke as an adult is tiers above his teen self which ems Madara is not Madara susanoo power increased with his awoken rinnegan and Sage mode should atleast put him near Sasuke Perfect susanoo to the point he does not get fodderized . Limbos are wrecked by Sasuke's susanoo giving that it has flight it dodges them easily aswell with Ameno and a Perfect susanoo blade with ration Sasuke comfortable slash at Madara with him not reaction fast enough. Rinnegan genjutsu is countered by Madara's Rinnegan Chibaku tensei = Chibaku tensei Madara would probably be bigger but they get destroys with susanoo blades attacking the core or just overpowered if they ever catch sasuke. Shira tensei = Shira tensei they're pretty much dead even if you ask me but SS changes the game However if Sasuke can get out of his range which he can he should outlast SS.

I say either way EXTREME high diff.

Same for scene 2

 

[KidGamer65]

Their chakra is already Senjutsu, Madara's chakra potency wouldn't get any better from having SM. His reflexes and strength would get an extra boost due to benefits, maybe his Shunshin. Since he was above Sasuke in all those latter categories already, there's going to be a decent gap.

Not that this point matters in all honestly, extra boost or none there would be a big gap in their PS.

*Edit: Sasuke negs S1 too though, if he has Rikudo Chakra. Although If its this Hagoromo-less chakra Rinnegan Sasuke that's been popping up in threads recently then Madara takes S1

Lol. Completely forgot.

^ It should be that both have no Rikudo chakra in S1 and both have half of Hagoromo chakra in S2. Madara remains always superior because his regular PS is stronger than Sasukes.

So he takes both scenarios mid diff.

And where did the OP state this? It's canon adult Sasuke vs canon DRSM Madara. Thus Sasuke shits in S1.

Though I just realized that this is Adult Sasuke, so he might win S2 as well.

 

[KingHashirama]

Madara has double rinnegan on top of Hashirama's SM?? uhh meaning he has Hashirama's body as well.... Sasuke gets to mid-diff at best.

Now this is a person Adult rinnegan Sasuke should be compared to hmmmmmm

Its hard to judge

Sasuke as an adult is tiers above his teen self which ems Madara is not Madara susanoo power increased with his awoken rinnegan and Sage mode should atleast put him near Sasuke Perfect susanoo to the point he does not get fodderized . Limbos are wrecked by Sasuke's susanoo giving that it has flight it dodges them easily aswell with Ameno and a Perfect susanoo blade with ration Sasuke comfortable slash at Madara with him not reaction fast enough. Rinnegan genjutsu is countered by Madara's Rinnegan Chibaku tensei = Chibaku tensei Madara would probably be bigger but they get destroys with susanoo blades attacking the core or just overpowered if they ever catch sasuke. Shira tensei = Shira tensei they're pretty much dead even if you ask me but SS changes the game However if Sasuke can get out of his range which he can he should outlast SS.

I say either way EXTREME high diff.

Same for scene 2

@Bold, thats only for Sasuke with rikudou's chakra.. which he ain't got in here.


Madara with EMS will kind of stomp teen ems Sasuke mid-diff at the hardest

 

[Kagustuchi]

Madara has double rinnegan on top of Hashirama's SM?? uhh meaning he has Hashirama's body as well.... Sasuke gets to mid-diff at best.


@Bold, thats only for Sasuke with rikudou's chakra.. which he ain't got in here.


Madara with EMS will kind of stomp teen ems Sasuke mid-diff at the hardest

You can't stomp at Mid-Diff

 

[bowflex]

Lol. Completely forgot.



And where did the OP state this? It's canon adult Sasuke vs canon DRSM Madara. Thus Sasuke shits in S1.

Though I just realized that this is Adult Sasuke, so he might win S2 as well.

how does adult sasuke shit in s1, just wondering because i can't picture sasuke winning when madara has hashirama's sm, mokuton and regeneration, on top of that limbo.

OT: madara wins both scenarios IMO.

 

[KidGamer65]

how does adult sasuke shit in s1, just wondering because i can't picture sasuke winning when madara has hashirama's sm, mokuton and regeneration, on top of that limbo.

OT: madara wins both scenarios IMO.

Sasuke has half of Hagoromo's chakra, straight from Hagoromo himself. That by far shits on regeneration worse than Byakugo, regular Senjutsu, and Mokuton. Limbo isn't even strong enough to scratch PS.

 

[bowflex]

Sasuke has half of Hagoromo's chakra, straight from Hagoromo himself. That by far shits on regeneration worse than Byakugo, regular Senjutsu, and Mokuton. Limbo isn't even strong enough to scratch PS.

s1 restricts hagoromo chakra though, and s2 they both have half of hagoromo chakra so madara should stomp as well. 1 limbo simultaneously knocked 9 bijuu's back, 4 limbos can punch around sasuke's PS, im not saying its going to break it, but sasuke its not just going to stand there and let the limbo's gang up on his ps on top of madara's own PS, any damage madara is to receive he can easily switch himself out with a limbo too.

don't disregard limbo as a non factor. and didn't madara tell tsunade her byakugo seal was just like hashi's regeneration? what ever the case sasuke has 0 regeneration, any blow will prove to be fatal, flower world pullen can get past PS too, if sasuke were to try to fly out its range a limbo was shown having the strength to easily knock a PS down or push it around.

madara's ps can tank sasuke's attempt at ameno PS chidori blitz. madara's survivability is far superior to sasuke's and who's to say that limbo ganging up on sasuke's PS while madara slashe's away at it isn't enough to break sasuke's susano?

i dont see sasuke winning either scenarios here. of course that's my opinion. the way i see it.

 

[KidGamer65]

s1 restricts hagoromo chakra though, and s2 they both have half of hagoromo chakra so madara should stomp as well. 1 limbo simultaneously knocked 9 bijuu's back, 4 limbos can punch around sasuke's PS, im not saying its going to break it, but sasuke its not just going to stand there and let the limbo's gang up on his ps on top of madara's own PS, any damage madara is to receive he can easily switch himself out with a limbo too.

Not sure where people are getting this from, but it was never stated or even implied in the opening post. It's Manga canon Sasuke vs. Manga canon Madara. Limbo being able to knock back a Bijuu isn't evidence that Limbo can knock back PS when PS is far larger and far sturdier than the Bijuu. They'd punch it, do nothing, and cut one shotted by Sasuke's blade.

And then Sasuke just cuts the real Madara apart after cutting through all his Limbo. The only place Madara might win is S2.

don't disregard limbo as a non factor. and didn't madara tell tsunade her byakugo seal was just like hashi's regeneration? what ever the case sasuke has 0 regeneration, any blow will prove to be fatal, flower world pullen can get past PS too, if sasuke were to try to fly out its range a limbo was shown having the strength to easily knock a PS down or push it around.

i dont see sasuke winning either scenarios here. of course that's my opinion. the way i see it.

No. Madara said that she can recover w/o hand seals just like Hashirama. Byakugo is stated to regenerate limbs. Madara had to attach a Zetsu arm when he lost his, but let's ignore that and say that Byakugo=Hashirama's healing power. Doesn't matter. Can't regenerate form PS chopping you up.

Sasuke doesn't need regeneration when Madara can't hurt him in S1, he can't even touch him due to Susanoo. Limbo can't push Sasuke's Susanoo around nor would Sasuke just sit there and watch as Limbo attacks his Susanoo. He has Rinnegan and Six Paths Chakra. He can hurt Limbo. PS blade one shots them all then Madara gets one shotted by PS Chidori.

Manga Sasuke gets stomped in S2. Adult Sasuke might win.

 

[Amaterasu]

Sasuke laughable diff S1, and Madara wins S2 thanks to 50% Hagoromo.

What the hell are ppl thinking about S1, Madara would barely even be able to touch Sasuke

 

[bowflex]

Not sure where people are getting this from, but it was never stated or even implied in the opening post. It's Manga canon Sasuke vs. Manga canon Madara. Limbo being able to knock back a Bijuu isn't evidence that Limbo can knock back PS when PS is far larger and far sturdier than the Bijuu. They'd punch it, do nothing, and cut one shotted by Sasuke's blade.

And then Sasuke just cuts the real Madara apart after cutting through all his Limbo. The only place Madara might win is S2.



No. Madara said that she can recover w/o hand seals just like Hashirama. Byakugo is stated to regenerate limbs. Madara had to attach a Zetsu arm when he lost his, but let's ignore that and say that Byakugo=Hashirama's healing power. Doesn't matter. Can't regenerate form PS chopping you up.

Sasuke doesn't need regeneration when Madara can't hurt him in S1, he can't even touch him due to Susanoo. Limbo can't push Sasuke's Susanoo around nor would Sasuke just sit there and watch as Limbo attacks his Susanoo. He has Rinnegan and Six Paths Chakra. He can hurt Limbo. PS blade one shots them all then Madara gets one shotted by PS Chidori.

Manga Sasuke gets stomped in S2. Adult Sasuke might win.

fair enough