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I compared them because Hago and Hamu inherited HALF of Kaguya's abiltieis, it should be obvious by now, YIN = YANG

It should be obvious that Kaguya clan + Hyuga = Hamura, Hago inherited Kaguya's body that allowed him to become a Jinchuuriki, what body feats would Hamura inherit then? Bone KKG because it's conveniently designed to overcome the Byakugan's lack of long range jutsu and protect its blind spot.

Furthermore, Byakugan users were said to be able to either block or enhance the flow of chakra which is what the Sun and Moon seals did to Naruto and Sasuke. Hago used his Yang to become a jinchuuriki while Hamura used his Yin to develop the seals. Who's the only clan to have shown the ability to seal away dojutsu? Hyuga, so you can't deny the seals were Hamura's feat.

In addition, Kaguya's needles also negged Sasuke which even Hyuga are capable of, so please refrain from wanking Indra like he has a chance against Hagoromo's equal.
Hinata's vacuum palm deflected a Juubi's tail which carries as much power as a Susano sword. If Hinata did that with a weak Kurama cloak what would Hamura do with Rikudou Senjutsu.
First of all I never walked indra do I have no idea what you're talking about. Secondly didn't hamura stay on the moon when the juubi was sealed? Doesn't all of hamura's descendents have a byakugan? You say it's obvious yet there is no implication, gold and silver brothers stem from hagoromo's distant blood line, probably ashura's side, this was confirmed, yet kimmumaro's clan can't? Oh the fan fiction is strong with this one. And the byakugam is said to do that because they cam block a user's chakra points, or release the blocked points, like what hinata did to Naruto, btw that's through the gentle fist. Kaguya's byalugan and hamura's byakugan are two different levels. Hamura was never even proven to gave rikoudo senjutsu, please refrain from using fan fiction because kaguya could use a TSB and she's not listed as a rikoido users, at least that version of kaguya isn't, prime kaguya most definitely.


I think you also forgot that juubi was lacking kurama and the eight tails, because the juubi madara absorbed was noted to be more powerful than what obito had and that juubi didn't even have the Shinju attached, :lmao:. But okay, lets also overlook that incomplete juubi. You make me laugh do hard :lmao:
 

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Sealing Kaguya lead to the moon being created. This was stated in the manga and Databook.

The moon was never stated to be hollow. As matter of fact there was a hologram showing it wasn't. So you're kinda retarded here.
[video]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d_SAgCfBWJE[/video]
That "impressive" moon busting, still gets casually tanked by BSM :Spark: :lmao:

And I'm aware that it was, but if it took hagoromo and hamura to create the moon why does it only take hamura to bust it, if anything you're not so bright in this area :coffee:
 
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Dude, most of Hagaromo's hype ended up being false. He couldn't do anything without Hamura.
Pardon :lmao:, the only hype that got debunk was him sealing the juubi alone, he needed hamura's help because hamura had the other seal and creating the moon. What help did he get by splitting the juubi?none, what help from sword of nunboku? None, what help from tools? None, pls refrain from trying to downgrade hagoromo when hamura only helped with two hagoromo related feats out of his many feats.
 

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Pardon :lmao:, the only hype that got debunk was him sealing the juubi alone, he needed hamura's help because hamura had the other seal and creating the moon. What help did he get by splitting the juubi?none, what help from sword of nunboku? None, what help from tools? None, pls refrain from trying to downgrade hagoromo when hamura only helped with two hagoromo related feats out of his many feats.
-He didn't split the Juubi with COAT. The sun/moon seal did.

-Sword of nunboku didn't create the world.
 

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[video]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d_SAgCfBWJE[/video]
That "impressive" moon busting, still gets casually tanked by BSM :Spark: :lmao:
A flying BSM?

Sasuke also didn't have the Rinnigan in one scene. What does that tell you?

And I'm aware that it was, but if it took hagoromo and hamura to create the moon why does it only take hamura to bust it, if anything you're not so bright in this area :coffee:
Hamura awaken the Teseigan later on.
 

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-He didn't split the Juubi with COAT. The sun/moon seal did.

-Sword of nunboku didn't create the world.
Okay...no...how does reshaping=create...there's a difference....

And I'm sorry, last time I checked the nine bijuu were created by hagoromo, databook, and manga fact :lmao:. Sealing the juubi was different then creating the bijuu, you needed to split the juubi's chakra into the Te nine bijuu, a feat even noted by kurana so I don't even know why you posted this...
 

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Okay...no...how does reshaping=create...there's a difference....
It said create and it was destroyed easily.

And I'm sorry, last time I checked the nine bijuu were created by hagoromo, databook, and manga fact :lmao:. Sealing the juubi was different then creating the bijuu, you needed to split the juubi's chakra into the Te nine bijuu, a feat even noted by kurana so I don't even know why you posted this...
Your reading comprehension skills are terrible.

The seperation of the Juubi and its chakra was done by the seal. This was shown in chapter 690. Didn't say that Hagoromo didn't create the tailed beast, which happened years after Kaguya was defeated.
 

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A flying BSM?

Sasuke also didn't have the Rinnigan in one scene. What does that tell you?



Hamura awaken the Teseigan later on.
So because one error was made another error also must be made :lmao:, and Naruto has been flying throughout the movie even without RSM, people attribute it to his prevalent Rikoudo powers.

*sigh*, he needs to awaken an eye despite being born with Kaguya's chakra, you need ootsutsuchi and hyuga main branch respectively to awaken temseigan like hamura, toneri did so in less than a day but it takes hamura years to awaken his? Despite being the progenitor? Hagoromo was born with his eyes, kaguya gained rinne sharnningsn immediately upon eating the fruit but hamura can't get his byakugan evolution... And yet you say hagoromo=Hamura. You saw that "moon busting", barely noticeably busted the center, pls....this hamura fapping needs to stop, the only thing you guys have are assumptions... From the info given and even conclusions that can be drawn hagoromo is above hamura. Hagoromo and Kaguya are labeled Kekkei Mora users yet Hamura is not, but hag=ham right? I'm so done :coffee:
 

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It said create and it was destroyed easily.



Your reading comprehension skills are terrible.

The seperation of the Juubi and its chakra was done by the seal. This was shown in chapter 690. Didn't say that Hagoromo didn't create the tailed beast, which happened years after Kaguya was defeated.
Destroyed easily???? Did you forget that it took Naruto, sasuke, and the entire ninja alliance to break it??? Plus it was used by obito, obito is obviously weaker than hagoromo and juubi Jin madara, but okay lets put him on the same level...get the garbage out. And how can you create a world that's already there before you were born...Obito was hyping him, create on that sense mean reshape, as he created the ninja world not the literal world... If anything your reading comprehension is weak.

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Sure, mine are definitely terrible :Sparks: gg, well played, but once again manga facts and data book facts of hagoromo's prowess and you can't debunk, hagoromo>hamura :Sparks:
 
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So because one error was made another error also must be made :lmao:, and Naruto has been flying throughout the movie even without RSM, people attribute it to his prevalent Rikoudo powers.
It's very obvious that Sasuke and Naruto's Rikoudo designs were not conceived until The Last's post-production.

*sigh*, he needs to awaken an eye despite being born with Kaguya's chakra, you need ootsutsuchi and hyuga main branch respectively to awaken temseigan like hamura, toneri did so in less than a day but it takes hamura years to awaken his? Despite being the progenitor? Hagoromo was born with his eyes, kaguya gained rinne sharnningsn immediately upon eating the fruit but hamura can't get his byakugan evolution... And yet you say hagoromo=Hamura.
Black Zetsu said that Hagoromo awakened the Rinnigan.

You saw that "moon busting", barely noticeably busted the center, pls
The split moon was shown drifting apart

....this hamura fapping needs to stop, the only thing you guys have are assumptions... From the info given and even conclusions that can be drawn hagoromo is above hamura. Hagoromo and Kaguya are labeled Kekkei Mora users yet Hamura is not, but hag=ham right? I'm so done :coffee:
Is there even a proper definition for Kekkei Mora?
 

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Destroyed easily???? Did you forget that it took Naruto, sasuke, and the entire ninja alliance to break it???
It wasn't the Ninja alliance. Just Naruto and Sasuke.

Plus it was used by obito, obito is obviously weaker than hagoromo and juubi Jin madara, but okay lets put him on the same level...get the garbage out.
The user of a sword doesn't determine its durability.

And how can you create a world that's already there before you were born...Obito was hyping him, create on that sense mean reshape, as he created the ninja world not the literal world... If anything your reading comprehension is weak.

Sure, mine are definitely terrible :Sparks:
So at best he gave chakra to people with that sword.
 

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It wasn't the Ninja alliance. Just Naruto and Sasuke.



The user of a sword doesn't determine its durability.





So at best he gave chakra to people with that sword.
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I am getting the biggest kick out of proving you wrong over and over and over again. It wasn't just Naruto and sasuke, and Naruto and sasuke only delivered the final blow, they needed some extra chakra to even compare :Sparks:. And break through, sorry but they didn't do it alone. Lets not forget when Naruto tethered himself to the alliance or should I put the anime fight as well :lmao:.

The sword does not determine it's durability? So let me get this straight, the sword of nunboku is made out of TSB, are you saying Juubito's TSBs are stronger than hagoromo's? Bruh... I'm so done :lmao:. I guess Obito's TSB equals Kaguya's expansive as well despite being two techniques on completely different levels. The sword can be different durability wise depending on what males it. Thank you very much.

Hagoromo awakened it sure, but a young hagoromo was seen with it, and I saw no tenseigan on hamura, if you said later in life so either way, you'd still be wrong here as that means toneri still got it in a day and hamura needed longer, dat Ton :Sparks:.

Running out of arguments I see after I debunked the juubi claim eh :Sparks:? At this point you're damage controlling and you know Hagpromo is superior, I have provided facts and scans, and you've provided assumptions and the like. Pretty sure we both know who's right here.

But to seriously answer your question, so far kekkei Mora seems to be techniques that stem from the rinne sharnningan or they are techniques that are unique only to the user. Unless someone gained the users powers. For example, IT is a kekkei Mora because nobody but kaguya or someone with Kaguya's power and a double rinnegan or Tomoe facing the moon and awaken a rinne sharnningan can access it. Kekkei genkai is blood line and many people in the blood line can use it, kekkei touts can be taught as seen with mu and onnoki, bit all techniques labeled kekkei Mora seem to have an individual only capable of using it, either gain that individuals power or you can't use it. But take it with a grain of salt that's my analysis. But all techniques labled kekkei touts have godlike attributes and power, so kekkei touts isn't weak at all.

Dude, we saw the same video, toneri barely managed to male a noticeable dent in the center, it's drifting apart id s proof of you say that he didn't bust the moon just that small center, drifting apart because he struck the center, if I cut a fan in half, is it going to stay in position or break apart as an after effect? Does that mean I destroyed the fan? Of course not, I just split the middle, the rest is intact, toneri hype is outrageous, the moon busting isn't as impressive as everyone thinks, as a rikoudo opponent anything less and he's just another fodderkill for Naruto.

He shared chakra through sword of nunboko a sword made out of TSB, I know this is just an analysis but still? He can share it the same way Naruto did, no need to use nunboko.

But like I and others have stated, you have no manga facts to support your claims, that's why it's not useful to say hamura=Hagoromo because that's pure assumption, because hagoromo has manga facts and DB facts backing him up, hamura has very little, hamura is incredibly strong but not on hagoromo level.
 

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I am getting the biggest kick out of proving you wrong over and over and over again. It wasn't just Naruto and sasuke, and Naruto and sasuke only delivered the final blow, they needed some extra chakra to even compare :Sparks:. And break through, sorry but they didn't do it alone. Lets not forget when Naruto tethered himself to the alliance or should I put the anime fight as well :lmao:.
1. That is not the allience but the K11.
2. Naruto and Sasuke were the only ones that came into contact with the sword.

The sword does not determine it's durability? So let me get this straight, the sword of nunboku is made out of TSB, are you saying Juubito's TSBs are stronger than hagoromo's? Bruh... I'm so done :lmao:. I guess Obito's TSB equals Kaguya's expansive as well despite being two techniques on completely different levels. The sword can be different durability wise depending on what males it. Thank you very much.
Do you have any evidence that there is durability difference amoung TSBs? The only difference that was shown was destructive capacity.

Hagoromo awakened it sure, but a young hagoromo was seen with it, and I saw no tenseigan on hamura, if you said later in life so either way, you'd still be wrong here as that means toneri still got it in a day and hamura needed longer, dat Ton :Sparks:.
Like how Obito got MS at a younger age than Madara.

Running out of arguments I see after I debunked the juubi claim eh :Sparks:? At this point you're damage controlling and you know Hagpromo is superior, I have provided facts and scans, and you've provided assumptions and the like. Pretty sure we both know who's right here.
You didn't debunk my claim. You misunderstood it.

But to seriously answer your question, so far kekkei Mora seems to be techniques that stem from the rinne sharnningan or they are techniques that are unique only to the user. Unless someone gained the users powers. For example, IT is a kekkei Mora because nobody but kaguya or someone with Kaguya's power and a double rinnegan or Tomoe facing the moon and awaken a rinne sharnningan can access it. Kekkei genkai is blood line and many people in the blood line can use it, kekkei touts can be taught as seen with mu and onnoki, bit all techniques labeled kekkei Mora seem to have an individual only capable of using it, either gain that individuals power or you can't use it. But take it with a grain of salt that's my analysis. But all techniques labled kekkei touts have godlike attributes and power, so kekkei touts isn't weak at all.
So in other words there is no proper definition if you need to says "it seems to be this".

Dude, we saw the same video, toneri barely managed to male a noticeable dent in the center, it's drifting apart id s proof of you say that he didn't bust the moon just that small center, drifting apart because he struck the center, if I cut a fan in half, is it going to stay in position or break apart as an after effect? Does that mean I destroyed the fan? Of course not, I just split the middle, the rest is intact, toneri hype is outrageous, the moon busting isn't as impressive as everyone thinks, as a rikoudo opponent anything less and he's just another fodderkill for Naruto.
Did't say that Toneri bust the moon but that Hamura could based on power scaling. It's stated that the next generation gets weaker over time.

He shared chakra through sword of nunboko a sword made out of TSB, I know this is just an analysis but still? He can share it the same way Naruto did, no need to use nunboko.
So that means what Obito stated was completely false.
 
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hahah that is funy all people say rinnegan can create moon but with hamura hagoromo can create moon but hamura with tenseigan can destroy moon easly maybe jin hamura can destroy all planet
 
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