Common sense can obviously be used here...If we don't use common sense then I can fly by the logic that Naruto's Senjutsu BD and Sasuke arrow are stronger than 4 Juubi powered BD. You can't disprove that because you have 0 feats or 0 way of debating against that logic since it has Natural energy in it. Why don't we state so? Obviously common sense smh.
Common sense can be used here if it's common sense. But what you are using isn't common sense. You are using flawed logic and throwing the tag "common sense' on it as it will somehow make it valid. Not. How. It. Works. Not to mention your example makes no sense. "Common Sense" isn't the reason Obito's attack is stronger. Obito's attack is stronger because Manga feats show that it is. Obito's attack wasn't negated because it has no Senjutsu in it, not because "Common Sense says so". If it had Nature Energy, then it would've wrecked his shield. Doesn't make a shred of sense.
I can stick by NG doing so to PS because it's common sense that it can...Maybe not to you but to anyone who logically thinks here and factors the Manga as a whole based on portrayal. Just like how you said you believe it does...I can't imagine one thinking NG would run at PS and supposedly bounce back or something. Anyone who reads the Manga would know it obviously doesn't sound right. There are many examples I can use which we can use to make such conclusions that common sense should be a factor here.
Except it's not common sense. It's your opinion. Please differentiate the two before claiming that Night Guy ripping through PS like butter is common sense. If it were really common sense, then you would be able to offer me some kind of explanation for why you think it's common sense other than repeating "it's common sense".
Whoever said it'd bounce back? I said if it breaks through, it will not be easily.
I don't think Night Guy can break through PS because of common sense. That is ridiculous reasoning. Common sense is not evidence. Citing common sense here sounds like nothing but a cop out.
Yes? Kaguya's bones can't be stronger than 12 BD..That's madness in my opinion. It's obviously not its ability to decay since it had to have the focused power(Piercing) then the decaying follows after. Stated by the DB.
In your
opinion. That is enough to make this invalid.
Kaguya's AB can be an argument for focused attacks being strong enough when large scale ones fail...Just like how it is clear that NM would be able to penetrate through PS...What about the Hachibi's example I spoke about? Not to mention NM is on a far different level from EE. The last punch destroyed the GD and that GD never experienced the full power of EE since the 4 punches were indirect except the 5th. NM is on a far different level looking at the ranks alone..This is something we shouldn't argue.
Your Hachibi example proves that less focused attacks need less power to penetrate defenses, it does not prove that Kaguya's bone will bridge the gap between a Rikudo PS and Madara's PS just because it's a piercing attack. Flawed logic. Flawed beyond belief.
-No, it is not clear that Night Guy would easily rip through PS. Especially if you look at the feats instead of clinging to what you believe is common sense.
-Wrong. The 4 previous punches being indirect doesn't weaken the power of the final punch. That doesn't even make sense. Destroying the Gudo Dama isn't a feat that'd allow something much stronger to rip through Madara's PS with ease when the Gudo Dama were even being damaged by BSM Naruto's Senjutsu BD and Sasuke's Senjutsu Susanoo Arrow.
What ranks? Ranks between EMS/Edo Madara in strength and 8G Gai? Because that right there is fallacious logic. JJ Madara is stronger than Toneri, by far, yet Toneri easily has more firepower than Madara since he's strong enough to bisect the moon with his blade. SM Hashirama w/ Mokujin and Edo Madara w/PS are shown to be equals in combat, yet PS commands more firepower than Mokujin. Naruto and Sasuke pre VoTE are far above Juubito in power, yet Juubito commands more firepower than them, at least Sasuke anyway.
Nope..I gave an example of why I thought so in order to debunk that 12 BD example. My opinion backed with no feats but good examples and portrayal in order to try and convince you that a high level focused attack like NM would break through that PS. After seeing what a much weaker EE can do.
Your example is flawed, and you have no portrayal argument. You've literally repeated common sense as your argument.
So what removed PS exactly? I thought SS who was hit by the main attack took the main damage. I don't believe this logic of Kurama's stand alone being a factor...It shouldn't change the durability at all. Not to mention Kurama wasn't standing up straight. How can we possibly conclude Madara has a more durable form of his Perfect Susanoo? I disagree. Plus SM Mokujin on 2 occasions was around the same size as Madara's PS and also around the same size as Kurama. What's funny is the weaker Hashirama brought back to life could use SM
1. SS and PS Kyuubi clashed with their BD barrage and Chojo Kebutsu attacks, the explosion that occurred because of those 2 jutsu is what destroyed PS. Not sure where the bold came from, but it's falsae.
2. Wrong. Not to mention I've already addressed this so why are you only replying saying that you don't believe it? The larger the defense is, the harder it will be to bypass it as there will be more chakra to get past. That right there is common sense. Kurama standing up straight has nothing to do with anything here so why even mention it?
3. Wrong. Read that again. SM Mokujin is as large as PS. Where was SM Mokujin shown to be as large as Kurama? Nowhere. Base Mokujin w/ no lower body at VoTE was shown to rival Full Kurama in size. SM Mokujin and PS are far larger than Full Kurama.
It's speed clearly increased its damage due to there added force behind it.
Which does not change the fact that it's speed is why it twists space. Not it's strength.
Go on..Explain to me why Naruto's Senjutsu BD is weaker than 4 Juubi powered BD when they couldn't destroy the the TSB...I'm waiting. Let's use the same logic and note that EE could destroy that. I'm pointing out to you that common sense is a big factor.
Stop using bad logic. Read above. I've already addressed this.
Madara has good regeneration. He's a non factor honestly.
Regeneration is not durability. So no, he's not a non factor.
No..You Kidgamer yourself just said "I believe it can destroy PS". What made you believe that? Something must have triggered that. What else? Common sense and Portrayal. There are somethings which are just clear to you...It's not Bias.
Not a chance. Common sense is not my argument for this topic and it never will be. Because this is not common sense. Eighth Gate Gai being able to beat the crap out of JJ Madara (who had no Gudo Dama due to what Minato did, had help from Kakashi and didn't/couldn't do anything but try and defend) is not reason enough for me to believe that his strongest attack will run through PS like it's nothing based on "common sense". Gai was beating the crap out of Madara, but god knows that he doesn't possess more firepower than he does.
