I think Sasuke Can Absorb Naruto's SM

[King of the Heavens]

Was Nagato letting out some of senjutsu chakra at the same time? No. He thought that fodder body that he was controlling could handle it all. If he was to do it again, It would be very clear that he wouldn't make the same mistake by taking in all that nature energy. Oh wait....

Didn't Naruto just channeled Nature energy while that pein's body was absorbing it? Meaning Naruto was never stabilizing the nature energy he was absorbing. He was just being a bridge between pein body and nature energy. Meaning, pein body can absorb all of the nature energy that naruto stabilized before absorbing more. Wow. Interesting.

were is your proof huh.

 

[Nagi]

were is your proof huh.

Where is your proof? We both know that pein body wasn't Nagato's body. So you don't have any proof that nagato himself couldn't handle SM with his real body.

 

[King of the Heavens]

lol. You do realize that Nagato controlled six peins. Mighty pushed the F out of the village. You expect him pump more chakra into a body that already absorbed the "stabilized" senjutsu chakra from naruto, then taking in unstable raw Nature energy that naruto decided to direct into pein's body without stabilizing it ? By your logic, nagato's pein body would handle SM with no problem if Nagato wasn't feeding the other bodies and didn't do a god level mighty push.

You just hyped up Nagato and proved to me why Nagato is a freaking BOSS!

"Users that can properly balance their own chakra with natural energy will not experience any animalistic transformations to their body. The one exception is a dark pigmentation around their eyes and the eyes themselves which usually differ based on where the user learned Sage Mode" Naruto, Kabuto, Hashirama and Minato have the pigments around the eyes meaning thats the perfected sage mode jiraiya's one is incomplete. Madara's not classed as using sage mode even though he absorbed it. Curse mark is not classed as sage mode as the curse mark is orochimaru's chakra thats why kabuto used it to enhance his body so he could handle it.

 

[King of the Heavens]

Where is your proof? We both know that pein body wasn't Nagato's body. So you don't have any proof that nagato himself couldn't handle SM with his real body.

A dad body can't absorb chakra let alone natural energy they were being controlled by nagato's chakra through the rods, his chakra in that frog couldn't handle it so he turned into a frog. It might have been another guys body but it was Nagato's chakra, thats why its called senjutsu Chakra.

 

[Nagi]

"Users that can properly balance their own chakra with natural energy will not experience any animalistic transformations to their body. The one exception is a dark pigmentation around their eyes and the eyes themselves which usually differ based on where the user learned Sage Mode" Naruto, Kabuto, Hashirama and Minato have the pigments around the eyes meaning thats the perfected sage mode jiraiya's one is incomplete. Madara's not classed as using sage mode even though he absorbed it. Curse mark is not classed as sage mode as the curse mark is orochimaru's chakra thats why kabuto used it to enhance his body so he could handle it.

Sasuke had pigments around his eyes.

I'm done. I tired of this debate. Peace!

A dad body can't absorb chakra let alone natural energy they were being controlled by nagato's chakra through the rods, his chakra in that frog couldn't handle it so he turned into a frog. It might have been another guys body but it was Nagato's chakra, thats why its called senjutsu Chakra.

When pre-chakra mode Naruto can walk around with 6 shadow clones and have one of them go Sage mode and keep absorbing Nature energy without stopping while maintaining the other 5 shadow clones, then we can talk. Peace!

 

[King of the Heavens]

Sasuke had pigments around his eyes.

I'm done. I tired of this debate. Peace!



When pre-chakra mode Naruto can walk around with 6 shadow clones and have one of them go Sage mode and keep absorbing Nature energy without stopping while maintaining the other 5 shadow clones, then we can talk. Peace!

hahahaha are you seriously saying sasuke had sage mode pigments around his eyes. WHERE

what has that got to do with sasuke using or absorbing sage mode or chakra.

 

[Nagi]

hahahaha are you seriously saying sasuke had sage mode pigments around his eyes. WHERE

what has that got to do with sasuke using or absorbing sage mode or chakra.

We got the yellow eyes just like everybody else..

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If you wanna see them pigments, go watch them CM fights.

Peace!

 

[King of the Heavens]

We got the yellow eyes just like everybody else..

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If you wanna see them pigments, go watch them CM fights.

Peace!

You must be stupid if that's what you think the pigments from sage mode is.

forget about it man im out

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Never said that . Controlling six bodies is a a testament to how powerful his chakra is .

What kind of a testament is that? What does controlling six bodies have to do with powerful chakra?

Manga panel ?? Dont remember that ...

It's not very difficult to look it up wiki.

You should really know your stuff before arguing. It's some times an embarrassment to argue with you people. Seems like I'm arguing with children who know nothing... Here you go.

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Wrong Senjutsu practitioners learn to draw the energy of nature inside of them, blending it with their own chakra. This adds a new dimension of power to the practitioner's chakra, resulting in the creation of "senjutsu chakra" . They are just adding on tto there chakra with nature energy . In other words, It increases both really .

Once again Manga Panel ??

Sage Mode lasts 5 mins. With those clones, it can only lasts 15 mins. That's a very less amount of time to stay in Senjutsu. Do you honestly think 15 minutes is the time Naruto could fight in a battle if Senjutsu chakra was added to base chakra? If it increases both quality and quantity, how does Naruto last only 15 mins?

Even the creation of clones is limited to just 4-5 more clones. Do you honestly think this restriction isn't because of Sage Mode's increased chakra consumption? Why can he create so less clones if Sage Mode increased his chakra?

Further, people who have enormous amounts of chakra can learn to draw in natural energy. If Sage Mode didn't decrease the chakra quantity and rather increased it, then why do only people with enormous chakra reserves can learn it? Shouldn't anyone be able to learn it with some practice?

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Sage Mode exhausts the user after using it as seen in the Pain fight. Why does the user get exhausted if his chakra increases rather than decreases?

Sage Mode is attained after blending chakra with natural energy. Which means it's a mixture of both. If Sage chakra exhausts, then that means the chakra of the user mixed with natural energy exhausts thus increasing the consumption.

 

[Dantee]

Common knowledge.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

We already know sasuke can use SM but we are talking about absorbing SM

You're saying the opposite. Sasuke can't use SM, he can only absorb SM chakra.

To use SM, you need the skill to gather natural energy in your body and blend it with your chakra. Sasuke can't do that. But to absorb SM chakra, he needs an absorbing tool and a body strong enough to handle it. And he has both.

Curse Mark passively absorbed natural energy on its own upon activation (Sasuke couldn't gather natural energy himself but CM did it for Sasuke). So CM was the tool to absorb natural energy. The other thing you need is the body strong enough to handle it, which Sasuke had (proof is that he could use CM i.e. natural energy absorption to empower himself).

1: For those who can't comprehend the difference.

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- ''Not everybody can Master this training.''

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- Unless ya already possesses enormous chakra inside of you.. Nature energy would just take over you right away. That's how incredible nature energy is''.

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- Which correlates/matched perfectly with what Kaguto said.

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-Which is also why Orochimaru wanted Sasuke's body.

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Toad Oil:
- Attracts nature energy. Wherever you rub the oil on your body, Nature energy can enter through there.

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Curse Mark:
- Nature power is the source of the curse mark. Injecting Jugo's chakra into Sasuke, Caused him to immediately unleash the curse mark.

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Frog Transformation:
- If you take in a little too much Nature, it's reversible. But get beyond a certain amount and you'll never revert back to Human again.

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Curse Seal Transformation:
- Having a body that's not strong enough to handle Sage Mode means certain death to any Curse Seal user.

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Sage Mode Restricted:
- Going beyond your nature limit won't kill you, but you'll turn into a Frog. Then you can also progress further toward permanently becoming one with nature and if you fail at becoming one with nature you'll be a Stone Statue.

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Curse Mode Unrestricted:
- Unlike Toad Sage Mode, Those with superior control over their Curse Transformations can Transform into other forms and Revert beck to their human body without it being permanent.

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.....................................................Reverting.

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Nature Chakra Molding:
- When learning toad sage mode, one needs to remain still in order to mold nature chakra.

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No Nature Chakra Molding:
- Molding nature isn't required due the Curse mark being it's own source of Senjutsu.

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- Jugo not dying even though his body is a Natural Energy Source is quite remarkable.

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- Simply put, Sasuke was essentially 1 with Nature.

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[/SP[/SPOILER].His body was a physical manifestation of Nature.

Exactly...

He has rinnegan
Rinnegan has the ability to absorb SM
So i have no idea what u are talking bout

You need two things to absorb Senjutsu chakra.
1. Absorption tool (Rinnegan's Preta Path)
2. A body strong enough to handle it (Sasuke's body could handle natural energy absorbed by CM so he has a body strong enough to handle it).

Pain had the ability to absorb SM but he didn't have a body strong enough to handle it. We don't know whether Nagato himself could absorb the Senjutsu chakra or not, but the body that Nagato used for Preta Path couldn't.

Tht was a mistake in my part i meant chakra

Again u need skilll to do tht

Using perfect timing

If u absorb too much u turn into frog

And pein wasnt skilled to do tht

The amount of Senjutsu chakra able to be absorbed is dependent on the capability of the body of the absorber.

Lack of skill and perfect timing didn't turn Pain's Preta Path body into a toad. In was the incapability of the body to handle the Senjutsu chakra that resulted in this phenomenon. If the body is strong enough, then absorbing large amounts of Sage chakra wasn't an issue.

It wasn't into himself like every other person does except for saskue who put into his susano we haven't seen him use sage mode or himbeing able to handle it so you can't say he can

Sasuke can't use SM, he can only absorb and use SM chakra. Only the SM chakra for empowered jutsus, not the entire abilities of Sage Mode like enhanced physical attributes.

There's only 4 people who can use sage mode and who's bodies could handle it, Naruto, Jiraiya, Minato, Hashirama. jiraiya having not completely mastered and jugo being an exception. Everyone else madara had hashirama's cell in him that where he stored the sage energy he took, Kabuto modified his body with orochimaru's blood and cells that how he could handle and sasuke into his susano (not his body) pain absorbed the sage mode from naruto and that turned him into a frog. sage transformation and sage mode or curse mark is 2 completely different things.

all i here is sasuke can to be honest we've seen everyone either fully absorbing and handling it or turned into a frog but sasuke, how can you say that Sasuke can do this without him having done it just because he has the rinnegan it doesn't make a difference he hasn't done it its not in the manga meaning he can't do it.

@bold There are only 4 people who can gather natural energy and blend in with their chakra to attain the state of Sage Mode. They get the power of Sage Mode i.e. enhanced chakra power as well as enhanced physical attributes.

Sasuke absorbing Sage chakra will not grant him the power of Sage Mode. It will only grant him the Senjutsu chakra for empowered jutsus. Physical attributes of Sasuke will remain the same because he has Sage chakra, not Sage Mode.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

do you have manga scans of sasuke with the sage markings which is proof of someone using sage mode or are you just going by speculation. ( he did so can i kinda thing)

As I said, Sasuke absorbing Senjutsu chakra from Naruto won't grant him Sage Mode. It will only grant him Sage chakra i.e. Naruto's chakra mixed with natural energy that Naruto collects and stores in his body while staying still and then uses it afterwards in battle, that can last 5 mins. It may makes his abilities better as well, but that's not for sure.

Six Paths Yin chakra is the same as Six Paths Yang chakra empowered by Senjutsu. But, Sasuke doesn't get the same physical enhancements as Naruto when he enters RSM. He does, but no where near the same level as Naruto since physical attributes can only be used by those who have RSM, absorbing RSM chakra won't grant the same benefits.

 

[Berner]

turns out the ones trolling sayin my thread was soloed

are actually the ones who got soloed.

its sad to see people still dening the truth because it upsets them

 

[Berner]

Because the sage mode markings went on the hashi boob and not on madaras face. Hell madara didn't even have rinnegan at that time. :|

smh

yes he did

 

[Arima]

lol. You do realize that Nagato controlled six peins. Mighty pushed the F out of the village. You expect him pump more chakra into a body that already absorbed the "stabilized" senjutsu chakra from naruto, then taking in unstable raw Nature energy that naruto decided to direct into pein's body without stabilizing it ? By your logic, nagato's pein body would handle SM with no problem if Nagato wasn't feeding the other bodies and didn't do a god level mighty push.

You just hyped up Nagato and proved to me why Nagato is a freaking BOSS!

Your previous point was --> corpse absorbed chakra and if it were an Uzumaki/Senju body it would not become a stone. Now you admit that it was Nagato who could not control SM that he himself absorbed using the corpse.

I know that Nagato is a boss, I never said he is a fodder. But the fact that he could not control Nature Chakra with one of the bodies he was controlling stays. Nagato being able to control Nature Chakra with his real body is nothing more than a speculation, which you will never be able to prove, unless Kishi says so. Considering he did not undergo training like Naruto did.

 

[King Of Pop]

this thread lol

 

[Seventh Sama]

smh

yes he did

Yeah. You don't read the manga.

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[slaton02]

What people fail to realize or admit is preta path absorbed Narutos sm just find and nothing happened. It wasn't till he regathered unbalanced sage chakra did pain turn to stone. I believe an absorber can absorb sm just fine as long as it's not unbalanced. Another example is pain Absorbing Sm jiraiyas Rasengan.

 

[Xāvî1]

Yes he can, but he turn into a stone frog.

 

[the entire forum]

easiest shit, sasuke had natural sm,,,aka CS