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limbo > bijuu's
the bijuu's can't sense or see limbo, which is why it only took 1 limbo to simultaneously knock all bijuu's down. gedo or not the bijuu's are no competition for a single limbo.
sasuke doesn't even have a legit killing blow on madara, since madara has to be sealed. give sasuke the bijuu's and he loses to madara mid diff
rinne sharingan was shown reacting to ameno multiple times, madara awakened his own rinne sharingan.
vote 2 showed naruto countering indra's arrow with natural energy.
the juubi is literally made of unmeasurable natural energy.
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thats means madara has access to a lot more natural energy than naruto ever did. add enough to a juubi tail beast bomb and indra's arrow along with sasuke's bijuu susano is getting blown.
Madara has intel on ameno, he knows the distance its binded to. allowing him to avoid an ameno/indra's arrow blitz with bijuu susano, sasuke only has one shot with indra's arrow since its literally all the bijuu chakra he had collected in to one attack. there's multiple ways for madara to avoid it and or tank it.
1. Madara can power up his susano with natural energy, to the point where its a lot stronger than naruto's ashura kyuubi avatar in vote 2. remember madara has endless natural energy at his disposal and he doesn't have to gather it like naruto, he already has it within him due to juubi. easily fire 1 juubi tbb and negate the whole thing.
2. Madara mastered the rinnegan, if sasuke gets close enough to madara to ameno with bijuu susano and indra's arrow madara will react to it thanks to rinne sharingan, fire up a juubi powered shinra tensei and send sasuke back, indra's arrow will probably explode on impact with shinra tensei, but it will water down the explosion enough for madara to tank.
3. like mentioned in option 2. madara has PS which he can power up due to his access to juubi chakra/natural energy and infinite tsukuyomi victims, so defensively it should be a lot stronger than sasuke's bijuu PS, limbo and TSB to defend himself. like i said indra's arrow is a one time thing since its all of the bijuu's chakra in one attack. madara has a lot more bijuu chakra than that thanks to the juubi being an entity made from it. he will have no problem tanking it, or cancelling it off with another attack like naruto did in VOTE 2.
sasuke with no bijuu's gets beaten low-mid diff by madara.
if sasuke has the juubi as well, madara still has the upper hand, due to mokuton, rinne sharingan and more raw battle experience. i think madara would win very high diff. of course that's my opinion im sure all sasuke fans will disagree.
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The Demon Hawk
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EMS Sasuke > EMS Madara
Rinnegan Sasuke > Rinnegan Madara & 1R Juubi Jin Madara
Rinnegan Sasuke (Gaiden) = 2R Juubi Jin Madara (excluding immortality factor)
Juubi Jin Rinnegan Sasuke > 2R Juubi Jin Madara (including immortality factor) & 3 eye JJ Madara
In other words, Juubi Jin Rinnegan Sasuke > any character in NV bar Hagoromo, and speculatively Momoshiki. Naruto, Hamura, Madara and Kaguya will all be weaker than him.
Rinnegan Sasuke > Rinnegan Madara & 1R Juubi Jin Madara
Rinnegan Sasuke (Gaiden) = 2R Juubi Jin Madara (excluding immortality factor)
Juubi Jin Rinnegan Sasuke > 2R Juubi Jin Madara (including immortality factor) & 3 eye JJ Madara
In other words, Juubi Jin Rinnegan Sasuke > any character in NV bar Hagoromo, and speculatively Momoshiki. Naruto, Hamura, Madara and Kaguya will all be weaker than him.
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The Demon Hawk
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Sasuke essentially merged all the bijuus chakra i.e. transformed it into Juubi's chakra. Sasuke has the feat to control it.
Ameno can't get countered by Rinne Sharingan. And Mokuton is a no bother.
Indeed.
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rinne sharingan was shown reacting to ameno
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try not to forget little details like these, its annoying to go back in forth in the manga lookin for scans.
mokuton has pullen which 1 shots people, air can get passed Perfect susano, sasuke has no info on mokuton abilities, Wood Release: Advent of a World of Flowering Trees creates an entire forest in an instant, imagine that jutsu powered by the juubi, sasuke's best bet will be to fly out of there as soon as possible, which madara will stomp, unless sasuke uses ameno to get away. its still a factor dont just cross it off like its fodder.
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Nvr denied it
And couldn't even seriously damage either of them so u r point is
Sasuke can simply pull out bijuu chakra from him like he pulled out from bijuu's and bijuu PS shots on anything madara has shown
Madgra is not kaguya's lvl nor he has kaguya's lvl of chakra nor he can use Amenominaka
Either vote 2 nardo or sauce stomps madara
Drop whatever shit u r drinking
Rather than making fanfics come back again when he actually dodges them
Load of fanfics :lol
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Swagdara Uchiha
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Madara is unbeatable. It should have been clear enough the moment they needed to seal him in. Both the seals on Naruto and Sasuke were meant for Madara, but Kaguya came in and they have the same effect on her.
And couldn't even seriously damage either of them so u r point is
Sasuke can simply pull out bijuu chakra from him
Madagascar is not kaput nor he has kaguya's lvl of chakra nor he can use Amenominaka
Either vote 2 Marston or assume stomps madara
Drop whatever shit u r drinking
Rather than making fancies come back again when he actually dodges them
Load of fanfics :lol[/QUOTE]
was kinda expecting this. its what ever. Still don't know how some people say naruto or sasuke can stand up to madara or kaguya 1v1. this site is full of trolls and fanboys.
don't forget madara was able to counter the seal as well by switching himself with a limbo, something kaguya wasn't even able to do. as soon as they touched kaguya it was over.
once madara got his second eye, team 7 couldn't even get close to him.
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Becoz kaguya >>>>>>>>>any form madara
Madara cannot use Amenominaka which is one of the strongest tech kaguya showed
Madara has no feat to make him stand against vote 2 naruto or sasuke and thus u people sprout fanfics
i dont think anyone has said madara can use ameno with his rinne sharingan, having awakened his own, he still has its prowess
u do understand that madara never had a chance to seriously fight right? madara has shown the chakra manipulation feats, he had no trouble at all controlling the juubi, he has access to all of its powers. the juubi is made of natural energy, he doesn't have to gather it to use it, thats all it took to handle bijuu susuke. nobody is sprouting fanfics here.
the juubi is an entity made from all bijuu's, madara has more bijuu chakra than sasuke ever seen.
the juubi is an entity also made from natural energy. madara has more natural energy than naruto has ever seen, and he doesn't even have to gather it.
Jins have access to all the powers of the beast. madara is the juubi jin.
madara showed the chakra manipulation feat of easily handling the juubi, madara showed the feat of using susano with no eyes, madara showed the feat of easily handling sage mode even seconds after acquiring it.
madara has perfect susano and all this power. put 2 and 2 together. madara stomps deal with it.
Where r they feats
Btw kaguya reflexes r far above madara's
@bold my sides
Both nardo and sauce r recipient of half chakra from hagoromo and we did see madara running from them twice
So maddy can use lava release; Boil release; Magnet release
damn fanfics
None of those feats will help him against Vote 2 nardo or sauce
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oh thats because madara has the same eye. he has the same visual prowess to react to sasuke's ameno.
kaguya couldn't react to sakura and got sealed, while madara brushed them all off without moving, kaguya reacted to sasuke's ameno, using her rinne sharingan, madara has rinne sharingan.
madara can't use the abilities of the tail beast, because he has the entity thats made from them instead, the juubi, he can use the juubi's which are far more powerful.
madara never ran from team 7, he went after his other eye, but u trolling so its whatever lol.
madara has a lot more power than that of naruto and sasuke in Vote 2, as i already posted the scan that explains how the juubi has unmeasurable natural energy, naruto gathered some and was able to counter bijuu susano, madara has access to a lot more than naruto thanks to the juubi, but i already explained that and you choose to ignore it since you are trolling.
those feats prove he he has the chakra manipulation to power up his susano with the juubi. which should stomp naruto and sasuke, due to the juubi's immense power.
you clearly can't even come up with a counter lol. stop denying facts and admit madara is in a league above naruto and sasuke's.