what do you think of naruto's evolution?

[the entire forum]

when manga started it was said that naruto is dumb and talentless kid who hard working towards his goal to become hokage,

later turns out he is genius
later turns out he has enormous chakra pool
later turns out he has powerful connections and helpers
later turns out his father is genius hokage and his mother is jinjuriki of kuuybi
later turns out he has tnj/ ability talk out his enemy surrender with few childish/naive words
later turns out he can master sm in one week which sanins failed to master it in their whole life
later turns out he is from powerful clan
later turns out he is destiny child/chosen one
later turns out he can talk out with bijus to give him power, and turn into narujesus
later turns out he is incarnation of demi god

etc

what do you think of naruto's evolution?

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

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Naruto's evolution was the best in the series for me.

 

[the entire forum]

poor neiji thought , he probably believed naruto's nonsense about destiny and fate

 

[The Necromancer]

Naruto's message was thrown out the window the second we learned he was the child of a Hokage and one of the most powerful clans in history.

Confirmation of that thrown out message came when we learned he was the descendant of and a literal spirit vessel for a demi god.

 

[Desanto]

Naruto's message was thrown out the window the second we learned he was the child of a Hokage and one of the most powerful clans in history.

Confirmation of that thrown out message came when we learned he was the descendant of and a literal spirit vessel for a demi god.

Naw, the message was still received... At least for me it was. You can clearly see the message through out the manga, maybe you're just trying too hard to find something wrong with it.

Also, he was the vessel for a demi god who shared the same views so....

 

[Relostar Devil]

Hahaha, these are the one of the core reasons that why naruto lost its popularity during war arc.

 

[the entire forum]

Naw, the message was still received... At least for me it was. You can clearly see the message through out the manga, maybe you're just trying too hard to find something wrong with it.

Also, he was the vessel for a demi god who shared the same views so....

what message? if you dont have special powers and connections, then you're nothing,/fodder

inheritance/genius >hard work?

or something else?

 

[Romy9]

The difference between him and Sasuke/other geniuses is the fact that he was labeled a failure in his childhood as opposed to geniuses like Sasuke who were treated like that from day one. Knowing what you can do and what you can accomplish changes your mentality dramatically, and thus the results of any goals you deem to reach. This is why Naruto failed a lot and became powerful as all hell when people acknowledged his existence and power.

 

[Desanto]

what message? if your dont have special powers and connections, then you're nothing,/fodder

inheritance/genius >hard work?

or something else?

Romy9 answered your question flawlessly. Look there.

 

[Demonic.]

Naruto was an inspiration to losers everywhere until those losers found out he was always destined for greatness.

 

[the entire forum]

The difference between him and Sasuke/other geniuses is the fact that he was labeled a failure in his childhood as opposed to geniuses like Sasuke who were treated like that from day one. Knowing what you can do and what you can accomplish changes your mentality dramatically, and thus the results of any goals you deem to reach. This is why Naruto failed a lot and became powerful as all hell when people acknowledged his existence and power.

tell that...to tenten...or those million of fodders who works hard

 

[Desanto]

tell that...to tenten...or those million of fodders who works hard

but 10-10 and those million of unnamed fodders aren't a priority.

 

[The Necromancer]

but 10-10 and those million of unnamed fodders aren't the priority.

And why is that?

Wouldn't be destiny, would it? I sure hope not. That goes against the message of the manga.

 

[Romy9]

tell that...to tenten...or those million of fodders who works hard

Tenten doesn't have the bloodline of one of the most powerful clans in existence. It's also irrelevant because it's apparent Naruto had more in him than just hard work to become the most powerful shinobi in existence, not counting Kaguya (and Sasuke so someone doesn't get offended). Even a talent can fail miserably if he's treated like failure. That's the point.

 

[the entire forum]

Tenten doesn't have the bloodline of one of the most powerful clans in existence. It's also irrelevant because it's apparent Naruto had more in him than just hard work to become the most powerful shinobi in existence, not counting Kaguya (and Sasuke so someone doesn't get offended). Even a talent can fail miserably if he's treated like failure. That's the point.

so message is only special one can succeeded ? fated for greatness>>>>>>>hard work

 

[Desanto]

And why is that?

Wouldn't be destiny, would it? I sure hope not. That goes against the message of the manga.

You contradicted yourself saying "the message of the manga". Thought you said there was no more message?

What do you mean "why is that" ? This isn't called 10-10 and the rest of NV character development. It's called Naruto, and ofc the few characters that were needed to keep the plot moving.

 

[Lrrrrr]

His evolution into a snowflake is disgusting. Oh Reginald! ............... I disagree!

 

[the entire forum]

message of manga....**** common peoples,

 

[Romy9]

so message is only special ones and connections can succeeded ?

No. Lee was considered talentless but he worked hard on one aspect of the overall ability and surpassed all others in that particular field. Opening the gates is considered a genius feat. While Naruto was depicted as a hard worker, he actually worked hard for other people to recognize him, not master the majority of his powers. The message is that you can't succeed alone or without anyone's support. It all goes back to Ashura.

 

[The Necromancer]

You contradicted yourself saying "the message of the manga". Thought you said there was no more message?

What do you mean "why is that" ? This isn't called 10-10 and the rest of NV character development. It's called Naruto, and ofc the few characters that were needed to keep the plot moving.

Talk about nit-picking to try to salvage your argument. You've already proven my point, and have no concept of sarcasm apparently.

Message 1. A nobody who works hard can beat out someone born into greatness: Except that Naruto was born of a kage, born into one of the most powerful clans, and actively had his abilities muted by Kurama, meaning he was never a nobody.

Message 2. A person controls their own destiny. Except that Naruto was destined to win on more than one occasion, and by extension Madara and Kaguya were destined to lose.