-Tsunade could die to Hirudora or repeated Asakujaku honestly. EE ends her.
-Hiruzen dies to EE as well. Won't react + Enma can't protect him.
-Tobirama and his Edo also get disintegrated by EE
-BM Minato. Gai's movement speed in the 8G is faster than Minato. EE probably would do Moderate damage to the Avatar. But it's risky if he lives. So he'll need to One shot it with Night Gai.
-SM Hashirama. Night Gai GG
gai loses quite badly going by feats and/or powerscaling and hype.
how he loses by portrayal
going by powerscaling and portrayal, 8th gate gai is several tens of times stronger than the gokage at the time based on kakashis statement. the definition of "several" is more 2 but not many.
that would make gai at least 30x the power of the gokage, but thats lowballing it.
the exact benchmark number that would quantify as "many" is rather subjective, but nobody in their right mind would get the impression that gai is 100x gokage or more from "several". "several" to a lot of people would be 5-6 which would translate to 50x-60x in this case.
this is according to the original japanese trans.
going by powerscaling and portrayal, madara stated that the gokage at the time are nothing to him
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when he utilizes his full power which hashirama can match without his own full power.
this would give a much bigger impact on the reader, because the author is making it seem like the gap between madara and the gokage cant even be quantified, although nobody should be saying that a direct comparison between the 8th gate and madara is being made here by the author because there clearly isnt.
their power hype simply shares a common basis, that being where their power stands in comparison to the gokage. it stands though that madaras full power garners a greater hype when compared to the 5 kage than gais 8th gate.
madara is clearly at the very least several tens of times stronger than the gokage when you compare their full power.
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the gokages full power cant even come close to the sheer size of PS, while PS is chopping up mountain ranges that are miles away after cutting through the mass of 2 meteorites all in one stroke of its blade.
now by powerscaling, all of PS, mokujin and 8th gate would fit in a category of at the very least being "several tens of times" greater than the gokage though madaras PS did garner greater hype when compared to the gokage than the 8th gate.
hashiramas mokujin can match the strength of PS(which garnered greater hype against the gokage than 8th gate gai) and hashirama possesses a level of power even beyond that.
its a level of power beyond the level of being "several tens of times" stronger than the gokage, a level beyond the one to which they are "nothing" compared to.
how he loses by feats
based on feats, gai cannot even beat hashirama much less all of the hokage working together as one unit.
gai attempted to blitz ten tails madara and failed. to put it bluntly, madara reacted to evening elephants initial assault perfectly.
a failed blitz attempt cant constitute an argument for gai blitzing hashirama instantly. that leads you to ridiculous conclusions and by this logic, minato also blitzes hashirama since he attempted to blitz ten tails madara and failed.
there is also nothing pointing to evening elephant being capable of destroying the mokujin much less shinsuusenju which absolutely nobody should even be suggesting is possible.
evening elephant does possess the strength to break through a truthseeker, just like a bijudama+susano arrow, however it still couldnt "destroy" ten tails madara whom doesnt even come close to perfect susano/mokujin/shinsuusenjus durability by feats.
quite frankly, night gai is the only attack in gais arsenal that does any sort of wide scale destruction even resembling anything close to hashiramas scale(and you would really need to be reaching to draw any sort of comparison).
if hashirama summons shinsuusenju, the match ends nigh instantly. chojo kebetsu levels the whole battlefield and creates VOTE 2 with gai being reduced to pulp. night gai isnt doing anything to shinsuusenju, not when it didnt destroy ten tail madaras body even when he didnt put up any form of guard or protection.
in conclusion, there isnt anything implying that gai is so fast that hashirama cant at least react to gais blitz initially and gai has nothing that can destroy hashiramas full power mokuton nor match its power.
against hashirama alone, gai loses. against all the hokage, its laughably one sided.
gai loses quite badly going by feats and/or powerscaling and hype.
how he loses by portrayal
going by powerscaling and portrayal, 8th gate gai is several tens of times stronger than the gokage at the time based on kakashis statement. the definition of "several" is more 2 but not many.
that would make gai at least 30x the power of the gokage, but thats lowballing it.
the exact benchmark number that would quantify as "many" is rather subjective, but nobody in their right mind would get the impression that gai is 100x gokage or more from "several". "several" to a lot of people would be 5-6 which would translate to 50x-60x in this case.
this is according to the original japanese trans.
going by powerscaling and portrayal, madara stated that the gokage at the time are nothing to him
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when he utilizes his full power which hashirama can match without his own full power.
this would give a much bigger impact on the reader, because the author is making it seem like the gap between madara and the gokage cant even be quantified, although nobody should be saying that a direct comparison between the 8th gate and madara is being made here by the author because there clearly isnt.
their power hype simply shares a common basis, that being where their power stands in comparison to the gokage. it stands though that madaras full power garners a greater hype when compared to the 5 kage than gais 8th gate.
madara is clearly at the very least several tens of times stronger than the gokage when you compare their full power.
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the gokages full power cant even come close to the sheer size of PS, while PS is chopping up mountain ranges that are miles away after cutting through the mass of 2 meteorites all in one stroke of its blade.
now by powerscaling, all of PS, mokujin and 8th gate would fit in a category of at the very least being "several tens of times" greater than the gokage though madaras PS did garner greater hype when compared to the gokage than the 8th gate.
hashiramas mokujin can match the strength of PS(which garnered greater hype against the gokage than 8th gate gai) and hashirama possesses a level of power even beyond that.
its a level of power beyond the level of being "several tens of times" stronger than the gokage, a level beyond the one to which they are "nothing" compared to.
how he loses by feats
based on feats, gai cannot even beat hashirama much less all of the hokage working together as one unit.
gai attempted to blitz ten tails madara and failed. to put it bluntly, madara reacted to evening elephants initial assault perfectly.
a failed blitz attempt cant constitute an argument for gai blitzing hashirama instantly. that leads you to ridiculous conclusions and by this logic, minato also blitzes hashirama since he attempted to blitz ten tails madara and failed.
there is also nothing pointing to evening elephant being capable of destroying the mokujin much less shinsuusenju which absolutely nobody should even be suggesting is possible.
evening elephant does possess the strength to break through a truthseeker, just like a bijudama+susano arrow, however it still couldnt "destroy" ten tails madara whom doesnt even come close to perfect susano/mokujin/shinsuusenjus durability by feats.
quite frankly, night gai is the only attack in gais arsenal that does any sort of wide scale destruction even resembling anything close to hashiramas scale(and you would really need to be reaching to draw any sort of comparison).
if hashirama summons shinsuusenju, the match ends nigh instantly. chojo kebetsu levels the whole battlefield and creates VOTE 2 with gai being reduced to pulp. night gai isnt doing anything to shinsuusenju, not when it didnt destroy ten tail madaras body even when he didnt put up any form of guard or protection.
in conclusion, there isnt anything implying that gai is so fast that hashirama cant at least react to gais blitz initially and gai has nothing that can destroy hashiramas full power mokuton nor match its power.
against hashirama alone, gai loses. against all the hokage, its laughably one sided.
Scenario 1: Tobirama and Minato can teleport somewhere else and just wait for him to die, if they have to stay and fight then they have to outlast him some other way. Gai moves fast enough to bend time so I don't see how they are reacting to his attacks. Gai negs
8th Gate Gai easily wins. It's hyped up to be able to contend with the Gokage and clearly it was portrayed to be stronger considering Juubidara's expectations of Gai's 7th Gates was blown out of the water, so likely his expectations of the 8th Gates would be as well.
