Why sasuke is the weakest of the demi-god tier.

[bowflex]

First things first. this is the top tier shinobi aka demi gods, movie villains not included, im sure nobody likes those anyway.

kaguya
hagoromo
Infinite tsukuyomi Madara.
RSM naruto
Rinne sasuke

lets start.

VS KAGUYA. No explanation needed no one comes close to beating kaguya in a 1v1 battle.

VS HAGOROMO, Although hagoromo was never really shown fighting in the series its safe to assume he could beat sasuke 1v1, since after all sasuke has his powers due to him.


VS INFINITE TSUKUYOMI MADARA. lets get this clear by infinite tsukuyomi madara, i mean madara with rinne sharingan and double rinnegan. not an incomplete madara with 1 eye and 1 limbo. inb4 hardcore sasuke fans post irrelevant scans.

rinne sasuke has, 6 paths rinnegan, ameno, chidori, enton and Perfect susano, thats generally what sasuke's combat skills consist of.

Infinite tsukuyomi madara has, 6 paths rinnegan powered by the juubi, 4 limbo clones, 10 TSB's, RSM, Rinne sharingan,Perfect Susano, Regeneration and Mokuton.

Madara clearly has the advantage and sasuke loses low-mid difficulty here's why :

After madara's boost with his 2nd rinnegan, sasuke was no longer able to blitz him, not even along side RSM naruto
and distraction from Sakura.

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Any fire style/enton gets petra'd, Sasuke is unable to Ameno blitz due to the following reasons.

1. madara is constantly surrounded by Limbos

2. Madara can use TSB and can Cover himself

3. If madara limbos are overlapping with him at the time, he can easily Limbo swap and avoid all damage.

as shown here

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4. kaguya was shown reacting to ameno using rinnesharingan, madara has the same.

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Madara's counter to Sasuke's core victim CT :

now we all know sasuke can make the victim the core of his CT as shown here

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There's a big flaw to this and a lot of sasuke fans don't seem to realize this, if the opponent is strong enough he can easily break free from the CT

as shown here

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which is why Sasuke clearly put the bijuu's in genjutsu and immobilized the bijuu's

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if sasuke makes madara and his limbos cores of His CTs, madara can easily send his limbos back inside him, destroy all incoming rocks with a raiton and send his TSBs to deal with sasuke and or also deal with incoming rocks.


Sasuke's best bet Is perfect Susano, sasuke is not dumb I'm sure he will start off the fight with Perfect susano if he were to face madara by himself.

Sasuke Perfect susano Feats :

able to cut meteors that dwarfed mountains with ease

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Chidori

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Ameno

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Theres a couple ways madara can easily handle sasuke's PS.

1. Mokuton

- Wood Release: Advent of a World of Flowering Trees

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"The pollen produced by these flowers is then released into the atmosphere and when inhaled, renders any afflicted target unconscious. "

Now imagine this technique boosted by the juubi's powers, its scale would be gigantic, PS or not if sasuke inhales this he is going down.

as seen in the manga the user can have the branch restrain any target(s).

2. Quad juubi TBB/Chibaku tensei Combo

As seen in the manga, Sasuke can easily deal with the meteors one at a time He simply doesn't have the destructive power to finish off all the meteors at once like Naruto does. IF madara were to simultaneously Use a chibaku tensei of the same scale he did here

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and power up a quad juubi dama aiming at sasuke, sasuke would either get crushed by the meteors, or blasted by the juubi damas, or he can waste an immense amount of chakra and run off to another dimension, which is basically a victory towards madara anyway.

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Madara has his own Perfect Susano.

- madara was shown using susano with no eyes. if you going to try to argue a full power 3 eyed madara can't use PS please leave and don't bother because I am just going to ignore you.

The juubi has unmeasurable Natural energy as shown and explained here :

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Now with enough natural energy Naruto was able to counter indra's arrow which sasuke can't even use in this scenario since he doesn't have the bijuu's

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Madara can easily power up his perfect susano with natural energy from the juubi and simply stomp sasuke's REGULAR perfect susano.

i dont see sasuke handling madara's Perfect susano, + limbo clones + TSB + Mokuton at the same time.




VS RSM NARUTO this one also doesn't need a lot of explanation on why sasuke loses as you can take a look at VOTE 2 for yourself.

I hate to say it, but sasuke without bijuu's is no match for RSM naruto, who has access to all of the bijuu's chakra. this would be a stomp.

RSM naruto feats are insanely overpowered

Naruto's shadow clone was shown to be more durable than sasuke PS.

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getting passed kaguya's chakra palms when the same technique completely fodderized sasuke PS.

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RSM naruto was also shown blitzing kaguya when sasuke couldn't even do so with ameno

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Not only does naruto have more speed and durability, he also completely shits on sasuke in terms of raw destructive power

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as I stated before in the madara section, all it took naruto to deal with sasuke with the bijuu's was gathering natural energy. if naruto were to do the same against a sasuke who has no access to the bijuu's it would be a complete stomp.

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ok thats all, thanks for reading for those who did, and feel free to disagree, and remember this is sasuke with out the bijuu's.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

Can't disagree with mangafacts, good job.​

 

[Adam Driver]

You forgot Hamura, Hagoromo's brother who helped in sealing the 10 tails when Kaguya first turned into it

 

[bowflex]

You forgot Hamura, Hagoromo's brother who helped in sealing the 10 tails when Kaguya first turned into it

didn't want to include him since we really saw nothing of him at all, he's basically literally all hype.

 

[Melanin]

I don't think you know who you just came for.

Sasukebase is about to dismantle you.

 

[Dantee]

Not ignoring what you posted in the thread but most of this is what happened at Vote 2 when Sasuke had lil rinne experience while NAruto had power ups handed to him by bijuu pals. Just saying Sasuke with more rinne experience would pull ahead of most of this list. Especially considering the facts Kishi said Sasuke would surpass MAdara one day and matches NAruto at full strength.

 

[bowflex]

I don't think you know who you just came for.

Sasukebase is about to dismantle you.

i said feel free to disagree. the hell

 

[Xāvî1]

Mangaphax can't deny it tho.

 

[-Akuma-]

Yes Sasuje is this weakest watch out for Sauce Base tho.

 

[bowflex]

Not ignoring what you posted in the thread but most of this is what happened at Vote 2 when Sasuke had lil rinne experience while NAruto had power ups handed to him by bijuu pals. Just saying Sasuke with more rinne experience would pull ahead of most of this list. Especially considering the facts Kishi said Sasuke would surpass MAdara one day and matches NAruto at full strength.

rinnegan experience alone will not help sasuke in these situations. you could try to explain if you want. how?

 

[00Rinne]

I honestly think it's because he didn't have to work for his power..in one way or another almost every technique he has was someone elses before he got it.
The only thing that's his really is Amenotejikara and Sasano'o which wouldn't be there without Itachi an Hogoromo. (At least PS)

 

[Xāvî1]

I don't think you know who you just came for.

Sasukebase is about to dismantle you.

then sasuke base will be out runed by all the other bases.

 

[Sasuke tyeezy]

You don't have much longer now :Rucken: SB is about to tear you a new anus, but first let us convene to discuss your feeble fate.

 

[Adam Driver]

didn't want to include him since we really saw nothing of him at all, he's basically literally all hype.

I agree but same could be said for Hagoromo, the only thing we saw and know of them is that they both worked together to stop Kaguya, it's only fair to place him besides Hagoromo. I also agree with JJ Madara being above Naruto & Sasuke, Kishi had no way to have Naruto & Sasuke beat Madara so he offed with an asspull

 

[Adam Driver]

Funny though. When Sasuke had the bijuus chakra Kurama said he was on Hago level. Now we have Sasuke with mastered Rinnegan and a chidori that can bust meteors.

RSM Naruto gets rekt

The rest are pretty obvious

No that's wrong, he said the way he took in their chakra and used his susanoo as a vessel was similiar to how Hagoromo split up the chakra from himself

 

[Melanin]

i said feel free to disagree. the hell

The hell is right.

 

[kaithefly]

i agree that sasuke loses to madara but not with low difficulty. it would be high difficulty. you're forgetting that sasuke can go into different dimensions. also kishi already said that naruto and sasuke are equal. end of.

 

[bowflex]

I agree but same could be said for Hagoromo, the only thing we saw and know of them is that they both worked together to stop Kaguya, it's only fair to place him besides Hagoromo. I also agree with JJ Madara being above Naruto & Sasuke, Kishi had no way to have Naruto & Sasuke beat Madara so he offed with an asspull

yeah but atleast hagoromo had more to do with the story than hamura, and actually met the heroes, and i agree with madara, it was both of them out there fighting madara, i dont see how they could even compete by themselves. naruto would definitely get further than sasuke though, since he can disrupt the bijuu's within JJ's and kaguya.

i agree that sasuke loses to madara but not with low difficulty. it would be high difficulty. you're forgetting that sasuke can go into other dimensions. also kishi already said that naruto and sasuke are equal. end of.

with no bijuu's sasuke loses to madara low-mid, with bijuu's he loses high-extreme, thats my opinion. of course you can feel free to disagree.

 

[Sasuke tyeezy]

Also being completely honest Kaguya, Hagoromo, 3 eyed Shinjuu Tree absorbed Madara are gods:|.

The only demi-gods present are Naruto & Sasuke who are roughly equal, however I cannot and will not try to stop other SB members from bashing you. Good Luck with that.

 

[Zaraki Ken]

Madara, Kaguya and Hagoromoo are all stronger than Sasuke, Naruto is debateable.