Projectile Race

[Rιver]

1. TSB
2. V2 Ay blitz
3. BM TBB
4. Hirudora
5. Third Raikages blitz
6. V2 TBB
7. Susanoo Arrow/FRS (6-8 are interchangeable)
8. FRS/Susanoo Arrow
9. Enton
10. YM
11. Sand Drizzle
12. IS

V2 TBB is slower than Susanoo arrow and arrow is probably faster than Sandaime. Sand has also canonically shown to be faster than Enton projectiles.

Also BM TBB, FRS, Susanoo arrow and YM are same speed as they hit the CT core at the same time and FRS and Susanoo arrow traveled the same distance as fast. Other than that a decent list.

 

[NarutoX28]

^ That was likely due to the attractive force of the Chibaku Tensei which caused all of the projectiles to accelerate at the same rate.

 

[Unorthodox]

You would think Susanoo Arrow is faster than Ay IV.....

Yup dodging amaterasu means nothing because i bet that same shunshin he used to dodge amaterasu he can dodge he stop speeded punch aswell and Susanoo arrow travel faster than Raikage so its pointless it would be like trying to cast amaterasu on a susanoo arrow already in movement.

then theres this clown

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no words are needed to refute this stupidity

Child get slapped Kabuto did not dodge shit he ran behind a rock need a post a scan where the susanoo arrow pierced his tail when he was in the open? enton is made out of fire you know how slow fire would travel through air? vs a arrow which is made to withstand wind resistance? Susanoo arrow be blitzing opponents while rasenshuriken has been dodged by mid tiers speedsters they are no where near the same speed.

Susanoo arrow = bijuu dama speed

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^ That was likely due to the attractive force of the Chibaku Tensei which caused all of the projectiles to accelerate at the same rate.

false as hell a susanoo arrow being shot at chibaku tensei does not equal the a mountain size rock being pulled up to it even more proof 6 tails naruto tbbs was reaching the chibaku tensei way before the rocks the were already above the 6 tails current location

 

[RustledJimmies]

then theres this clown

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no words are needed to refute this stupidity

I don't even see your point. Susano'o Arrow was clearly fired after FRS, as you can clearly see in the scan you posted that the Arrow is behind FRS, and yet the Arrow managed to hit FRS before the latter landed.

The other two scans prove absolutely nothing, since dodging something doesn't mean that you can beat it in a race. And it isn't farfetched to say that the Arrow is faster than either Raikage's blitz, since Susano'o Arrow was pretty much on par with Bijuu Dama in terms of speed [

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], and we know just how fast Bijuu Dama is [

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], neither Raikage has anything comparable to that.

 

[LuckyMan]

I don't even see your point. Susano'o Arrow was clearly fired after FRS, as you can clearly see in the scan you posted that the Arrow is behind FRS, and yet the Arrow managed to hit FRS before the latter landed.

The other two scans prove absolutely nothing, since dodging something doesn't mean that you can beat it in a race. And it isn't farfetched to say that the Arrow is faster than either Raikage's blitz, since Susano'o Arrow was pretty much on par with Bijuu Dama in terms of speed [

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], and we know just how fast Bijuu Dama is [

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], neither Raikage has anything comparable to that.

Didn't you claim before Hashirama moves at like mach 150 or something of that nature?

 

[RustledJimmies]

Didn't you claim before Hashirama moves at like mach 150 or something of that nature?

He reacted to Bijuu Dama, so his reactions are that fast, didn't say anything about movement speed. Not seeing how this is relevant, though.

 

[LuckyMan]

He reacted to Bijuu Dama, so his reactions are that fast, didn't say anything about movement speed. Not seeing how this is relevant, though.

Oh never mind. Just checked that old thread. Was some dude name Kagatsuchi who said that silly stuff about Madz and Hashi moving at mach 120.

 

[Unorthodox]

I don't even see your point. Susano'o Arrow was clearly fired after FRS, as you can clearly see in the scan you posted that the Arrow is behind FRS, and yet the Arrow managed to hit FRS before the latter landed.

The other two scans prove absolutely nothing, since dodging something doesn't mean that you can beat it in a race. And it isn't farfetched to say that the Arrow is faster than either Raikage's blitz, since Susano'o Arrow was pretty much on par with Bijuu Dama in terms of speed [

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], and we know just how fast Bijuu Dama is [

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], neither Raikage has anything comparable to that.

Thankyou for helping me shit on Kifflom dumbass

 

[Brother Numpsay]

when did Chiyo physically move from FRS? because doing so puts her in the same tier as Third Raikage which is clearly absurd
that alone shuts the basiis of your argument

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as for IS, sakura was able to evade pretty much all of its attacks bar ISWO due to its AOE
IS is dead last because anything above has the speed feats that are well above it, its just that simple

She never ever evade Drizzle form, which Sasori used at best for speed. So everything else is irrelevant.

No, it was susanoo arrow but coated with enton, pretty much no difference in speed when iits exactly the same jutsu
susanoo arrow being faster is a mere assumption that makes no sense

Um no that speed is completely different by feats and common sense. One is being propel by Susanoo's bow and the other is being propel by Sasuke's or Susanoo arm.

 

[ARGUS]

?

I mean, FRS was able to get close to the Raikage because Naruto shunshin'd right next to him and threw it at point blank range. The FRS itself is not actually that fast.

All that says is that Third Raikage is much faster than FRS
FRS travelled a

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in no way is it a slow jutsu,
and we have already seen it travel at the

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which is incredibly fast itself

V2 TBB is slower than Susanoo arrow

yeah that could be possible, since V2 TBB lacks feats,
i have just based it on the same echelon as a regular TBB bcz logically there shouldnt be much of a difference

and arrow is probably faster than Sandaime.

No its not,

Sand has also canonically shown to be faster than Enton projectiles.

Forming a shield to stop entons =/= being faster than entons
Gaaras sand was unable to even catch Muu, and was danced around by deidara and joki boy,

Also BM TBB, FRS, Susanoo arrow and YM are same speed as they hit the CT core at the same time

No theyre not,
because the CT core attracted all theese attacks with the same pull making the entire comparison moot

and FRS and Susanoo arrow traveled the same distance as fast. Other than that a decent list.

Yeah that is true, which alot of people for some odd reason seem to disagree with despite the manga showing us a clear cut image

Child get slapped Kabuto did not dodge shit he ran behind a rock need a post a scan where the susanoo arrow pierced his tail when he was in the open?

Uhh No, he dodged it, as said by your sasuke himself

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Sasukes words >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your BS

enton is made out of fire you know how slow fire would travel through air? vs a arrow which is made to withstand wind resistance?

except fire just enhannces over wind, so there will be less wind resistance,
either way, its a pretty shitty counter

Susanoo arrow be blitzing opponents

it failed to blitz even danzo considering he managed to weave hand seals to change its trajectory with a mokuton

while rasenshuriken has been dodged by mid tiers speedsters they are no where near the same speed.

irrelevant,
they were both shown to be of the same speed,

Susanoo arrow = bijuu dama speed

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yeah sure,

I don't even see your point. Susano'o Arrow was clearly fired after FRS, as you can clearly see in the scan you posted that the Arrow is behind FRS, and yet the Arrow managed to hit FRS before the latter landed.

No susanoo arrow and the FRS were shot at the same time, and were both shot at the juubi,
your claim would only make more sense
yet still they connected and attached, if they werent just aiming for the juubi
which equates to only thing only

The other two scans prove absolutely nothing, since dodging something doesn't mean that you can beat it in a race. And it isn't farfetched to say that the Arrow is faster than either Raikage's blitz, since Susano'o Arrow was pretty much on par with Bijuu Dama in terms of speed [

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], and we know just how fast Bijuu Dama is [

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], neither Raikage has anything comparable to that.

for FRS and Third Raikage its clear as day that he is much much faster,
he has the physical speed to dodge it POINT BLANK whilst being blinded by the sun, if FRS really was faster than it wouldve hit him regardless and naruto wouldnt have had to rely on running right at his face and using it as a weapon

and Hashirama was able to outrun the PS-blade TBB, and managed to form a rashomon,
V2 Ay is faster than TBB seeing he is faster than amatearssu which is faster than TBB

 

[Rιver]

Yeah you have a great point guys, but Dox is also right. V2 Naruto shot a TBB at the CT core and went way faster than the rocks. That means that yeah, more force put into the object the faster it approaches the core, but since TBB, YM and FRS went all as fast that means they went same speed anyway. So the point isn't really moot.

Also the arrow is faster than Sandaime. No one has evaded that arrow and Kakashi could only react with Kamui. Also before you bring Kabuto scan, he didn't dodge it but his snake evaded it. And even if Sandaime is fast, Naruto has shown to have better reactions and doubt he dodges that arrow.

But... I'm not sure about this either since if FRS = Arrow, and Deva Path and Sandaime dodged FRS then so should Sandaime... tricky.

 

[RustledJimmies]

No susanoo arrow and the FRS were shot at the same time, and were both shot at the juubi,
your claim would only make more sense
yet still they connected and attached, if they werent just aiming for the juubi
which equates to only thing only

No evidence that they were shot at the same time. Regardless, you can clearly see that Susano'o Arrow started behind FRS, so either it was fired after FRS, or Sasuke was farther from the Juubi when he shot the Arrow, and either would translate to Susano'o Arrow being faster, since FRS was in front of the arrow when fired, if its speed was superior or equal to the arrow, they would both maintain their speed and FRS would hit the Juubi first, but instead Susano'o Arrow hit FRS before FRS could hit the Juubi, therefore it's faster.

for FRS and Third Raikage its clear as day that he is much much faster,
he has the physical speed to dodge it POINT BLANK whilst being blinded by the sun, if FRS really was faster than it wouldve hit him regardless and naruto wouldnt have had to rely on running right at his face and using it as a weapon

Emphasize the feat as much as you wish, it will not make it any greater. You might have a fair chance at dodging a tennis ball being thrown at you, but does that mean you can cover a certain distance before it can do the same?

and Hashirama was able to outrun the PS-blade TBB, and managed to form a rashomon,

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, he stopped running as soon as it was fired because he knew he couldn't outrun it, which is why he summoned Rashomon to intercept it instead. And managing to form Rashomon is relevant because...?

V2 Ay is faster than TBB seeing he is faster than amatearssu which is faster than TBB

Amaterasu is only "fast" in the first place because it spawns on the target, its travel speed is nothing special, unless you're ready to tell me that Hebi Sasuke can avoid Bijuu Dama for some time with his speed alone. All Ay did was get away from Sasuke's LoS, and since Amaterasu spawns wherever the caster is focusing, it didn't hit him.

 

[Apêx1]

Loool. Look at the scan you are using to prove tbb=arrow. While arrow was already fired, the tbb had just finished prepping as indicated by the circular marks around jt (which have often happened after its prep finishes and it gets compressed/solidified).

Btw sandaime's evasiveness allowed him to dodged FRS coming at him. It doesn't mean he can outrun it (obv would, but not by that reasoning). Almost all of Pain dodged it anyways.

 

[KeyofDestiny]

-Senjutsu Susanoo used in Juubito fight>>>Sasuke's normal Susanoo. So of course it will fire arrows faster than the weaker Susanoo would.

-Kurama's Bijuu Dama at VoTE's speed feat surpasses anything Hachibi has ever done. So Hachibi's BD being equal to FRS doesn't mean that all BD are equal to FRS.

KCM FRS=Sasuke's handheld Enton in speed.

KCM COFRS=Sasuke's Enton Arrow in speed. (The split panel makes it pretty obvious to me that they were fired at the same time, though maybe Naruto firing downwards and Sasuke firing upwards caused the speeds to increase and decrease respectively, cause it being equal in speed makes no sense.)

Senjutsu Susanoo Arrow>Bijuu Dama in speed.

 

[Worm]

All that says is that Third Raikage is much faster than FRS
FRS travelled a

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in no way is it a slow jutsu,
and we have already seen it travel at the

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which is incredibly fast itself

I don't really care about it's other feats. I was quoting you because you implied FRS is near Raikage's level of speed since you said Naruto almost hit him with it. I quoted you to ask you how that does make sense because that wasn't a speed feat for FRS.

 

[Icelerate]

The first time the 3rd Raikage dodged the FRS,

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so I don't see how this means 3rd Raikage dodged FRS with ease when he only barely dodged it in both instances.

3rd Raikage didn't effortlessly dodge FRS the second time either considering part of his RNY and clothes were cut (

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) so I don't see how this means 3rd Raikage dodged FRS with ease when he only barely dodged it in both instances.

In both instances, all he made were last minute evasive maneuvers and didn't outrun a thrown FRS.