Difference between madara and kaguya PT 2.

[Complex]

Agreed. TY and madara negs diff

 

[The Demon Hawk]

That's a huge exaggeration. :lol

It may be, but it really doesn't matter. Since I didn't derive a direct relation of Madara and Kaguya with that example. It was only an example to give an idea about the caliber of opponents with different powers. "The utilization of that power is more important than simply possessing that power" was the main idea.

If you want to take it literally, I'll rephrase it. "An experienced soldier with a pistol is much tougher than a novice with a shotgun". Or "a master with a stone is tougher than a novice with a shuriken".

 

[WorldTamerUchihaMadara]

not sure why people are denying this

limbo's solo would read again

 

[Seventh Sama]

It may be, but it really doesn't matter. Since I didn't derive a direct relation of Madara and Kaguya with that example. It was only an example to give an idea about the caliber of opponents with different powers. "The utilization of that power is more important than simply possessing that power" was the main idea.

If you want to take it literally, I'll rephrase it. "An experienced soldier with a pistol is much tougher than a novice with a shotgun". Or "a master with a stone is tougher than a novice with a shuriken".

Kaguya does possess skill tho. According to the databook she obtained the eighty god vacuum attack jutsu through her "mastery of chakra". I assume she's a master at chakra control with that statement but i do agree that she isn't as experienced as madara tho.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Kaguya does possess skill tho. According to the databook she obtained the eighty god vacuum attack jutsu through her "mastery of chakra". I assume she's a master at chakra control with that statement but i do agree that she isn't as experienced as madara tho.

That's just natural blessing from the Shinju fruit. I wouldn't credit her for anything. She lived in an era when everyone was fodder, didn't develop any ninjutsu at all. If Madara had Kaguya's powers, it would be GG. She used Amenominaka unnecessarily most of the time. She couldn't develop any strategies or plans, BZ was doing all the mind work. No utilization of all that capacity, all power going in vain. No development of skills. What do you expect from someone like that? She was obviously a downgrade from Madara.

 

[Seventh Sama]

That's just natural blessing from the Shinju fruit. I wouldn't credit her for anything. She lived in an era when everyone was fodder, didn't develop any ninjutsu at all. If Madara had Kaguya's powers, it would be GG. She used Amenominaka unnecessarily most of the time. She couldn't develop any strategies or plans, BZ was doing all the mind work. No utilization of all that capacity, all power going in vain. No development of skills. What do you expect from someone like that? She was obviously a downgrade from Madara.

Do i have to tell you the definition of mastery? :|
Yeah i know that. Like i said i agree that she doesn't have much battle experience from what we know but no. She used ameno correctly. She used lava dimension to dispose of team 7. She had no knowledge that naruto could fly, Ice dimension to freeze sasuke and naruto from sealing her and tried to use the icicles to subdue naruto so she can drain his chakra. She used gravity dimension to stop naruto & sasuke movements so she can kill them but ofc kakashi & obito come to the rescue. She switched to the core dimension to replenish her chakra. I will give you credit that she should've killed obito, kakashi and sakura first from the get-go but you know Arrogant villain syndrome prevented that.

She did show some tactical thought tho. She wasn't careless to use the ice dimension a second time since sasuke was prepping to use ama. idk man you just like to discredit her.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Do i have to tell you the definition of mastery? :|
Yeah i know that. Like i said i agree that she doesn't have much battle experience from what we know but no. She used ameno correctly. She used lava dimension to dispose of team 7. She had no knowledge that naruto could fly, Ice dimension to freeze sasuke and naruto from sealing her and tried to use the icicles to subdue naruto so she can drain his chakra. She used gravity dimension to stop naruto & sasuke movements so she can kill them but ofc kakashi & obito come to the rescue. She switched to the core dimension to replenish her chakra. I will give you credit that she should've killed obito, kakashi and sakura first from the get-go but you know Arrogant villain syndrome prevented that.

She did show some tactical thought tho. She wasn't careless to use the ice dimension a second time since sasuke was prepping to use ama. idk man you just like to discredit her.

I'm not discrediting her. I'm just saying, compared to Madara, she was a downgrade villain. Plus, BZ was the one is charge of strategies and giving information and ideas just like Kurama gives Naruto. She had absolutely no battle skills. She had a very strong and capable body, but just to see it go in vain because she didn't have any ninjutsu at all. Naruto could easily trick her multiple times by lame tricks someone of god status should never fall for. She naturally had excellent chakra control mastery, given the capacity of her body, which I was implying earlier.

 

[Seventh Sama]

I'm not discrediting her. I'm just saying, compared to Madara, she was a downgrade villain. Plus, BZ was the one is charge of strategies and giving information and ideas just like Kurama gives Naruto. She had absolutely no battle skills. She had a very strong and capable body, but just to see it go in vain because she didn't have any ninjutsu at all. Naruto could easily trick her multiple times by lame tricks someone of god status should never fall for. She naturally had excellent chakra control mastery, given the capacity of her body, which I was implying earlier.

Meh. Kishi should've had BZ transfer her knowledge on everything he knew. Is there even a jutsu for that?

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Meh. Kishi should've had BZ transfer her knowledge on everything he knew. Is there even a jutsu for that?

Haha, nice idea. But she didn't actually needed knowledge, she needed ideas that BZ was giving. And those were supposed to be given on spot rather than before depending on the situation. She was like a spoiled rich girl who can't do anything on her own and has assistants and servants for managing her finance, advising and aid doing her stuff.

 

[Zealous Sparks]

For the 10,000th time, Kaguya decimates Madara.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Haha, nice idea. But she didn't actually needed knowledge, she needed ideas that BZ was giving. And those were supposed to be given on spot rather than before depending on the situation. She was like a spoiled rich girl who can't do anything on her own and has assistants and servants for managing her finance, advising and aid doing her stuff.

I forgot experience too. BZ is a decent tactician.

 

[bowflex]

NB needs more threads like this one.. cant wait for RHP to come back.

 

[HiddenSound]

BZ one shotted Madara and Team 7 wouldn't have beaten him? lol

 

[bowflex]

BZ one shotted Madara and Team 7 wouldn't have beaten him? lol

Nope....