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Read my comment above, Sasuke was rightfully confident that he, and Taka could sneak in there. They were only found out because Zetsu told the Kages he was there.
Why did sasuke march into the kage summit, too cocky.
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Yea I have read the manga. You should re ready comment. Firstly it implied that Obi to manipulated Sasuke, which he did. Sasuke may have chosen to attack later if he thought clearly. And secondly , when you are making these kind of plans , you always think of an exit strategy if things go bad. And here there was too much potential for things to go bad. 5 Kages were there.
But Sasuke has always been overconfident . It is in his character though. (Just pointing out the characteristics of his character, not bashing )
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him being too manipulated is a myth. everything he did, it was done purposely for some gain one way or another
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You said Sasuke was blinded by hate, which is false. He clearly thought over how they all would get there, and get to Danzo, and turns out things went according to plan.
He didn't rush in without thinking things through. We literally see them planning things, and successfully getting in.
He wasn't overconfident, he knew his powers, along with his teamates, and knew they could enter the Iron country, and Summit unnotice, and take out Danzo at the right oppurtunity, and they would of if Zetsu hadn't butted in.
No one had any idea he was there. It's not like he believed he could do things, and failed miserably due to not being skilled enough, They were succeeding very well, as he rightfully knew given their intelligents,skills,and powers. He choose Taka as his team for a reason.
How did Obito manipulate Sasuke? All he did was tell Sasuke the truth, Sasuke himself thought over everything, and decided to do things.
He went to the Summit for Danzo, as part of his own goals which he had for years - to avenge his family. All Tobi did was tell him Danzo was there.
Reading the manga doesn't mean you understand it fully.
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Sasuke was using him too.
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Tobi tried acting like he was Boss,and Sasuke charged straight through.
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He went to the Summit by his own decision because his target Danzo was there.
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He even straight out let Tobi know they were not allies.
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Sasuke was against Tobi and was using him from the start.
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if my memory serves me correctly he wanted a bijju in exchange, obito promised to give him one if they successfully capture bee.
plus while their way, sasuke blatantly states that taka is the one using the akatsuki, not the other way around.
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Sure
Would you mind sharing his exit strategy that he had planned when things go bad ?
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You're forgetting one key thing
Sasuke was part of the reason why the juubi was rebirthd which was done by manipulating Sasuke into capturing Bee
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was he sucessful in capturing bee? no so why would obito give him one when he didnt succeed in the task
plus sasuke didnt need it anymore
there was no manipulation. sasuke wanted to do that
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After the battle, Sasuke decided that he wouldn't need the Bijuu.
Read this, and the next page.
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And besides, whether he got the Bijuu or not is irrelevant. King Of Pop successfully countered your comment. Sasuke was not following Tobi's orders, he was doing things for his own purposes, not Tobi's.
He wasn't manipulated. I just explained to Ken above.
All Tobi did was tell him the truth, Sasuke on his own thought over everything, and decided to do things of his own free will for his own purposes, not Tobi's. Nothing he did was for him.
How about this, did Jiraiya manipulate Naruto into learning the summining technique? Or did Naruto on his own decide to learn it from him?
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nice, forgot sasuke said he didnt need it. you always bring manga fact to the table lol
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Now you're fanboying, you're telling me Sasuke wanted to revive something he knew nothing about? A bit of common sense will tell you the Obito was manipulating him, whether or not he captured Bee he was not getting a Bijuu. Sasuke was manipulated into being partially responsible in reviving the Juubi. Saying he did it of his own violation is absurd
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So from what I'm gathering, Sasuke helped Obito revive the ten tails to help him with his own goals?
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nope, you are just not being smart enough.
what are you talking about? sasuke wanting to capture bee has nothing to do with reviving anything. ive already told you why he decided to do that and it was for his gain.
and i have told you there is no manipulation.
that is irrelevant because it doesnt change the fact of why he decided to capture bee
there was no manipulation you tard. sasuke decided to go there and capture bee due to a gain he would receive later on, even if he didnt recieve said gain, he had other plans because he specifically said that they are the ones using the akatuski. if he was being manipulated, would he say something like that? this coupled with the fact that sasuke has attacked obito, flat out told him to his face that they were not allies further helps the point.use your damn sense.
its manga fact bud
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Yet he still delivered a (supposed) Bee to Akatsuki like Obito asked him to :sdo:
Edit: I'll go line by line if you want, don't really feel like wasting my time explaining something so simple
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You mean "IF things went bad", which was very unlikely, as i already proved. The Kages best bet at knowing Sasuke was there was White Zetsu.
His exit strategy wasn't shown, but lol, do you really believed the Genuis Shinobi Sasuke would not have a counter strategy incase things went wrong?
This is the same guy who from the start planned on using Orochimaru, and getting rid of him as soon as he finished learning everything he wanted from him, and from the start also alwaysed planned on forming a team with specifically Jugo,Karin,and Suigetsu due to their abilties which would help him with achieiving his goals.
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And let's not forget how Sasuke performs so well in battle. He's faced multiple highly skilled opponents who were using powers he had never even seen before - Deidara, Danzo, and Madara - Clay Bombs, Izanagi, and Limbo - he analyzed his opponent, figured out how their powers worked, in battle while fighting, formed strategies, and successfully did them, leading to multiple hits, and victory - defeated Deidara, and Danzo, and together with Naruto were able to take out a Limbo.
Surely when he's not in battle, and actually has time to think, he would also be able to come up with counter measures incase things go wrong. That's common sense. It's illogical to believe he never thought of/wouldn't have an exit plan.
He always plans things out. He was already set to go to the Konoha with Taka, then re-adjusted his plans, and strategies upon deciding go to the Summit.
I've already posted the pages. Did you even read them? If so then no offense but your reading comprension skills are lacking.
During the Bee battle, Sasuke said they are the ones using the Akatsuki, not the other way around. He knew Tobi was hoping to use him. Sasuke wanted the Bijuu for himself to use to help achieve his goal - destroying Konoha.
He gave no schitts about Tobi nor his plans. Tobi tried acting like he was Boss when Sasuke was heading to Konoha, Sasuke immediately tried piercing him with Chidori for getting in the way of his goals.
After achieving his goal of killing Danzo, Sasuke straight out told the man himself that they were not allies. A weakened Sasuke, tells the infamous Akatsuki member who was believed to be Uchiha Madara, the 2nd strongest Shinobi in history (at the time ofcourse), that he wasn't working with him.
All of this was after Tobi had told them, that if they betray Akatsuki, they would die.
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Sasuke was not concerned about Tobi or his goals.
Tobi knew how to extract the Bijuu from Bee, ofcourse Sasuke would give him Bee so he could get the Bijuu out of him.
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