Jiraiya at his strongest (sage mode) solos orochimaru???

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JIRIYA never used sage mode in his origional fiht with orochimaru.......orochimaru also feared nagato, JIRIYA would of won the fight with pain if he knew there secret.......even pain admitted this after the fight



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however orochimaru also never used edo tensei in his fight against jiraiya

if you put jiraiya at his strongest you should put orochimaru at his strongest as well

it is debatable if jiraiya would be able to enter sage mode at all...orochimaru will put up a good fight and i dont see jiraiya being able to enter sage mode...the only reason jiraiya was able to do it in his fight vs paths of pain was because of the setting of the battlefield

orochimaru`s arsenal of jutsus and ET wins the fight for him IMHO

and that praising pain gave to jiraiya means nothing

the only reason he said jiraiya would beat him if he knew his secret is because then jiraiya would stop fighting the paths and would proceed to the main body controlling the pains(nagato)

6 paths of pain>jiraiya
 

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I don't think you can consider edo tenses as a fair fight.....I still think in a fair fight JIRIYA would beat all the sannin, orochimaru in my opinion is the weakest.....Tsunade vs madara showed she at or near JIRIYA level....we have never seen oro go all out.....only time was vs taled beast Naruto and that was not impressive....




however orochimaru also never used edo tensei in his fight against jiraiya

if you put jiraiya at his strongest you should put orochimaru at his strongest as well

it is debatable if jiraiya would be able to enter sage mode at all...orochimaru will put up a good fight and i dont see jiraiya being able to enter sage mode...the only reason jiraiya was able to do it in his fight vs paths of pain was because of the setting of the battlefield

orochimaru`s arsenal of jutsus and ET wins the fight for him IMHO

and that praising pain gave to jiraiya means nothing

the only reason he said jiraiya would beat him if he knew his secret is because then jiraiya would stop fighting the paths and would proceed to the main body controlling the pains(nagato)

6 paths of pain>jiraiya
 

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Jman with SM is just murder with Orochimaru

Nagato praised Jman
Kisame praised Jman
Itachi praised Jman
 

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however orochimaru also never used edo tensei in his fight against jiraiya

if you put jiraiya at his strongest you should put orochimaru at his strongest as well

it is debatable if jiraiya would be able to enter sage mode at all...orochimaru will put up a good fight and i dont see jiraiya being able to enter sage mode...the only reason jiraiya was able to do it in his fight vs paths of pain was because of the setting of the battlefield

orochimaru`s arsenal of jutsus and ET wins the fight for him IMHO

and that praising pain gave to jiraiya means nothing

the only reason he said jiraiya would beat him if he knew his secret is because then jiraiya would stop fighting the paths and would proceed to the main body controlling the pains(nagato)

6 paths of pain>jiraiya

Exactly. And he would have won as Pain said.
 

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There's a reason Orochimaru waited until Jiraiya was outstide Konoha to attack the third Hokage. SM Jiraiya destroys Orochimaru.
 

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Depends on the Orochimaru.
 

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Orochimaru stomps jiraiya if he isn't being nerfed by kishi with no jutsu or soul being rejected by the body. He has ET, wind style jutsu, snakes, manda (unless you wanna kill him off for this fight to nerf oro), faster than jiraiya, basically immortal he's tanked the most in the series and comes back from everything unharmed so a rasengan isn't gonna end him.

also depending on the body you give oro like say his original body that learned snake sage mode then he'd also be able to enter sage mode and if he can do that he neg diffs jiraiya
 

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Jiraiya with SM is too much for Orochimaru. Yes he could have beaten Pain with intel and with SM he just stomps Orochimaru.
 

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I think so to but if Oro uses Edo tensei its over for J-Man
 
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I don't think you can consider edo tenses as a fair fight.....I still think in a fair fight JIRIYA would beat all the sannin, orochimaru in my opinion is the weakest.....Tsunade vs madara showed she at or near JIRIYA level....we have never seen oro go all out.....only time was vs taled beast Naruto and that was not impressive....

No such thing as an unfair jutsu. Oro with Edo Tensei >>>>>> SM Jiraiya.
 

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Edo tensei count as summons. If Jman gets his summons(which he needs to enter sage mode), then Orochimaru gets his summon.
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I don't think you can consider edo tenses as a fair fight.....I still think in a fair fight JIRIYA would beat all the sannin, orochimaru in my opinion is the weakest.....Tsunade vs madara showed she at or near JIRIYA level....we have never seen oro go all out.....only time was vs taled beast Naruto and that was not impressive....

that`s just it

we never got to see full power orochimaru

orochimaru could handle 4-tailed naruto while not using all of his techniques but jiraiya nearly got killed

i know jiraiya didnt want to hurt naruto but still

what possible advantage do you think jiraiya has over orochimaru?

the only one would be SM but as i`ve said he takes way too long to activate it and orochimaru wouldnt just stand by and let him do it....have orochimaru use edo tensei and the chances for jiraiya are grim
 

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Edo tensei count as summons. If Jman gets his summons(which he needs to enter sage mode), then Orochimaru gets his summon.
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obviousy if we count these edo tenseis then orochimaru stomps
 

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Even with sage mode Jiraiya is no match for orochimaru he endures all of Jiraiya arsenal. And snake pawns toad deal with it falls boys.
 

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Jiraiya is stronger than Orochimaru, but not Pain. Pain was only praising Jiraiya as his teacher, that's all. And Orochimaru can definitely carry on a tough fight with SM Jiraiya as he showed his resistance against 4 tailed Naruto. But Jiraiya is still stronger.
 

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Jiraiya is stronger than Orochimaru, but not Pain. Pain was only praising Jiraiya as his teacher, that's all. And Orochimaru can definitely carry on a tough fight with SM Jiraiya as he showed his resistance against 4 tailed Naruto. But Jiraiya is still stronger.

Jiraiya is not stronger than Oro for the simple fact that he can't stay in SM forever. Oro has the white snake do you what that even does? Not to mention if Oro uses Edo tensei mega GG for J-MAN
 

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Jiraiya is not stronger than Oro for the simple fact that he can't stay in SM forever. Oro has the white snake do you what that even does? Not to mention if Oro uses Edo tensei mega GG for J-MAN

That's a considerable drawback for Jiraiya because going in Sage Mode requires a lot of time and staying in Sage Mode takes less time, but even without SM Jiraiya can do a lot. Jiraiya's toad summons will aid him. Ma and Pa can be summoned for genjutsu. And if Jiraiya acquires Sage Mode after tough requirements, then he can overpower Orochimaru. Orochimaru's advantage is immortality though. Yeah, and White Snake is the only reason why I say Orochimaru can hold on a fight with Jiraiya. Orochimaru has the advantage due to SM's restrictions, but if Jiraiya overcomes it, then Jiraiya is stronger. I agree with the Edo Tensei though. Edo Tensei is GG for Jiraiya if that's included.

Jman with SM is just murder with Orochimaru

Nagato praised Jman
Kisame praised Jman
Itachi praised Jman

J-Man may be personally stronger and that also only if he enters Sage Mode. But Orochimaru has Edo Tensei, enough said...
 
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That's a considerable drawback for Jiraiya because going in Sage Mode requires a lot of time and staying in Sage Mode takes less time, but even without SM Jiraiya can do a lot. Jiraiya's toad summons will aid him. Ma and Pa can be summoned for genjutsu. And if Jiraiya acquires Sage Mode after tough requirements, then he can overpower Orochimaru. Orochimaru's advantage is immortality though. Yeah, and White Snake is the only reason why I say Orochimaru can hold on a fight with Jiraiya. Orochimaru has the advantage due to SM's restrictions, but if Jiraiya overcomes it, then Jiraiya is stronger. I agree with the Edo Tensei though. Edo Tensei is GG for Jiraiya if that's included.

Edo tensei to rigged lol , and yea I agree on the genjutsu part other than that I don't know how Jiraiya can win.
 
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