Is naruto good because of jiraya training not kakashi

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As jiraya personally trained konan , nagato , naruto , 4th hokage and they all became kage level .

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Kakashi trained naruto , sasuke and sakura but sasuke was trained by his dad and itachi before he even meant kakashi , also he was trained by orochimaru a legendary sannin ( who teacher was the 3rd ) but kakashi gave sasuke good start up training like chordi , lighting techniques , and basic feats like taijustu and being a mid range fighter however orochimaru was the reason sasuke was able to fight akatsuki level opponents 1 vs 1 . and sakura was trained by tsunade not kakashi at all.


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minato trained kakashi and obito but obito got training by madara which made him high kage level at like 15 years old and kakashi got training from his dad so can minato take credit to why both obito and kakashi were war heros in 3rd war and in 4th war were the main factors

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obito training from madara made him high kage level , before he was chunnin under mintato training :

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kakashi dad clearly trained kakashi that why he was jounnin really early:

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Sasuke is not a midrange fighter he long range and mostly close range mid range not at all Naruto on the other hand can kill you from anywhere on the battlefield XD
 

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Sasuke is not a midrange fighter he long range and mostly close range mid range not at all Naruto on the other hand can kill you from anywhere on the battlefield XD

sasuke great at hand to hand and knows long range techniques , was really referring to hebi sasuke who lighting techniques tend to have a reach
 

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no more like similar , naruto , sasuke , kakashi,obito ,itachi,madara all have great hand to hand skill deidara as well .

Obito was never shown to have great hand to hand or deidra Naruto is the best sensor in the world he is going to see sasuke's attacks coming from a mile away
 

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Obito was never shown to have great hand to hand or deidra Naruto is the best sensor in the world he is going to see sasuke's attacks coming from a mile away




and

deidara :



I only speak mangafacts
 

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and

deidara :



I only speak mangafacts

I stand correct Deidra just ran and Obito could not do that against someone like Naruto or maddy or even gai
 

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What's this thread's point, I don't get it.
 

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What is so different about PTS Naruto and Naruto pre Kakuzu and Hidan being shown?
Jiraiya helped with three things, Walking on water, Rasengan and summoning.
Kakashi taught him wall running, how to use shadow clones more efficient, and Nature release.
 

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they went on many missions with kakashi so they obviously learnt a lot from him
 

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If he wasn't trained by Jiraiya, he would be dead. If he wasn't trained by Kakashi, he would be dead, but slightly later on.
 

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I love Kakashi as a character but yeah he trained Sasuke a lot more. I can't even give him credit for training the basic stuff to Naruto as Naruto was horrible at it initially. Jiraya was his true teacher
 

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Naruto woudn't have rasenshuriken without Kakashi

Then again, he woudn't have had rasengan without Jiraiya.

But Kakashi knows rasengan too...

I think they are both equal teachers.
 

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The threads title is hilarious lololololol
 
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