Which Naruto characters can react to bullets?

[DMT]

1. Anyone above mach 2

2. Kakashi's Dog

3. Anyone with MHS+ feats



Hidan probably shits on any gunman

 

[LuckyMan]

God Tree was insanely tall, plus he was moving upwards. You can't provide a time frame either, so that's not really a valid point. Neither can you with the other one, or even how far they traveled. Talking isn't a valid scale of time.

Nor does any of this discount my calculation. That gap was crossed in one second, kishi himself decided that

Obviously no one provide a time frame for still manga pages unless the time passing is directly given from the characters perspective (Like Karin counting the 60 seconds in Izanagi or Naruto counting Deva Paths 5 second cool down time) but I'm certain that calculation of FRS is horribly wrong. 110x the speed of sound is over 37k meters a second. Bruh... do you really believe FRS can travel 22 miles in 1 second, because Naruto has thrown it and it traveled for more than 1 second (when he and Sasuke did their combination Arrow on Jubi) and Jubi wasn't 22 miles away.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

God Tree was insanely tall, plus he was moving upwards. You can't provide a time frame either, so that's not really a valid point. Neither can you with the other one, or even how far they traveled. Talking isn't a valid scale of time.

Nor does any of this discount my calculation. That gap was crossed in one second, kishi himself decided that

It does though. I can't make an exact time frame or distance, but it's still far more reliable than relying on comparing pixels. The distance calculated for the mach 110 was far more than "a few KM." While the exact distance isn't known, given the immense distance difference. In other words, if this distance wasn't traveled under a second, it invalidates the FRS calculation.

As for the time, an exact calculation is impossible, but it's clear it at least takes multiple seconds to cross a few KM given that there's conversations before they arrive.

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This clearly isn't in one second, and takes multiple seconds. Unless someone makes the case that the ninjas talk super fast in chipmunk voices, this is a valid measure that it took a bit of time for just a few KM. In this scenario, we have an actual stated distance instead of a calculated distance (which can be a victim of art inconsistency and user error), and a general frame of time. This is more set in stone than the calculation.



However, additionally, there's another reason why this measurement should be completely implausible. The simple answer to this is energy.

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The 3rd raikage jumped over FRS in close range, so the speed must be, at the very least, close to that of the FRS. According to the calc, that'd be mach 110 (assuming it isn't slower or faster than the SM FRS).


Here's where the absurdity kicks in. The average man has the mass of 70kg. Although the 3rd obviously is more massive, so simply bear in mind that the true energy is somewhere above this. The speed of sound at see level is 340.29 m/s. Therefore, the supposed speed is 37431.9 m/s.


Luckily, the 3rd isn't running, but jumping, meaning it's an single energy release as opposed to running. The energy from this jump is the equivalent of 11.721 tons of TNT. I don't see the force of nearly 12 tons of TNT on the ground he's jumping on. Therefore, the speed measurement is false.

 

[Kagustuchi]

It does though. I can't make an exact time frame or distance, but it's still far more reliable than relying on comparing pixels. The distance calculated for the mach 110 was far more than "a few KM." While the exact distance isn't known, given the immense distance difference. In other words, if this distance wasn't traveled under a second, it invalidates the FRS calculation.

As for the time, an exact calculation is impossible, but it's clear it at least takes multiple seconds to cross a few KM given that there's conversations before they arrive.

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This clearly isn't in one second, and takes multiple seconds. Unless someone makes the case that the ninjas talk super fast in chipmunk voices, this is a valid measure that it took a bit of time for just a few KM. In this scenario, we have an actual stated distance instead of a calculated distance (which can be a victim of art inconsistency and user error), and a general frame of time. This is more set in stone than the calculation.



However, additionally, there's another reason why this measurement should be completely implausible. The simple answer to this is energy.

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The 3rd raikage jumped over FRS in close range, so the speed must be, at the very least, close to that of the FRS. According to the calc, that'd be mach 110 (assuming it isn't slower or faster than the SM FRS).


Here's where the absurdity kicks in. The average man has the mass of 70kg. Although the 3rd obviously is more massive, so simply bear in mind that the true energy is somewhere above this. The speed of sound at see level is 340.29 m/s. Therefore, the supposed speed is 37431.9 m/s.


Luckily, the 3rd isn't running, but jumping, meaning it's an single energy release as opposed to running. The energy from this jump is the equivalent of 11.721 tons of TNT. I don't see the force of nearly 12 tons of TNT on the ground he's jumping on. Therefore, the speed measurement is false.

Again, this proves absolutely nothing. Your simply providing other instances in the manga and saying that they don't line up with real life physics. Your also assuming that they can move those large distances while maintaining that speed, while Bee, Naruto, and Minato are the only ones with extremely long distance feats of movement.

Sorry, but it's a manga. You have instances in other media where people battle across universes while having conversations. Hashirama and Madara had a conversation from over a mile away and still didn't have a problem hearing eachother.

Ask Lee how he can jump around with those weights on and not completely destroy the ground too, when simply dropping them obliterated it.

Ask Sasuke how he gets stone to conduct lightning while your at it.

 

[LuckyMan]

Again, this proves absolutely nothing. Your simply providing other instances in the manga and saying that they don't line up with real life physics. Your also assuming that they can move those large distances while maintaining that speed, while Bee, Naruto, and Minato are the only ones with extremely long distance feats of movement.

Sorry, but it's a manga. You have instances in other media where people battle across universes while having conversations. Hashirama and Madara had a conversation from over a mile away and still didn't have a problem hearing eachother.

Ask Lee how he can jump around with those weights on and not completely destroy the ground too, when simply dropping them obliterated it.

Ask Sasuke how he gets stone to conduct lightning while your at it.

So basically since the manga doesn't use real world logic and physics you don't have to use it either? Well. Guess its time to agree to disagree early before this goes on for pages.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Again, this proves absolutely nothing. Your simply providing other instances in the manga and saying that they don't line up with real life physics. Your also assuming that they can move those large distances while maintaining that speed, while Bee, Naruto, and Minato are the only ones with extremely long distance feats of movement.

Sorry, but it's a manga. You have instances in other media where people battle across universes while having conversations. Hashirama and Madara had a conversation from over a mile away and still didn't have a problem hearing eachother.

Ask Lee how he can jump around with those weights on and not completely destroy the ground too, when simply dropping them obliterated it.

Ask Sasuke how he gets stone to conduct lightning while your at it.

I keep hearing this kind of excuses "This is fiction and not follows real life" bla bla bla.

Speed is the primary element when it comes to fighting base manga. If author couldnt stayed consistent or couldnt draw speed fighting. Just keep away from high speed battle idea.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Again, this proves absolutely nothing. Your simply providing other instances in the manga and saying that they don't line up with real life physics. Your also assuming that they can move those large distances while maintaining that speed, while Bee, Naruto, and Minato are the only ones with extremely long distance feats of movement.

Sorry, but it's a manga. You have instances in other media where people battle across universes while having conversations. Hashirama and Madara had a conversation from over a mile away and still didn't have a problem hearing eachother.

Ask Lee how he can jump around with those weights on and not completely destroy the ground too, when simply dropping them obliterated it.

Ask Sasuke how he gets stone to conduct lightning while your at it.

It proves everything, you just choose to reject it. This is a clear manga instance of the speed after the Pain arc.


But since you still aren't convinced, let me further crush this idea with an undeniable fact.

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There's an even more basic reason why FRS isn't hypersonic.

Fact 1: The FRS is point-blank at the 3rd Raikage before he jumps over it.

Fact 2: This means his jump=the speed of FRS at least, otherwise, regardless of reflexes, he'd be hit, as he wouldn't cross the distance required for an evasion.

Fact 3: Gravity is a gradual pull. It doesn't stop you instantly. In other words, the faster you are jumping, the longer the air time, and the higher you go.

Fact 4: The 3rd didn't go very high to evade the FRS.

Fact 5: If the jump were supersonic, then he'd by making an absurdly high jump. This was not the case.

Fact 6: Then the 3rd wasn't jumping at super sonic speed.

Fact 7: Then the FRS wasn't thrown at supersonic speed.


Conclusion: The calculation is wrong, or are you going to obliterate physics again in the defense of this measurement? In that case, any measuring is pointless.

 

[Kagustuchi]

It proves everything, you just choose to reject it. This is a clear manga instance of the speed after the Pain arc.


But since you still aren't convinced, let me further crush this idea with an undeniable fact.

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There's an even more basic reason why FRS isn't hypersonic.

Fact 1: The FRS is point-blank at the 3rd Raikage before he jumps over it.

Fact 2: This means his jump=the speed of FRS at least, otherwise, regardless of reflexes, he'd be hit, as he wouldn't cross the distance required for an evasion.

Fact 3: Gravity is a gradual pull. It doesn't stop you instantly. In other words, the faster you are jumping, the longer the air time, and the higher you go.

Fact 4: The 3rd didn't go very high to evade the FRS.

Fact 5: If the jump were supersonic, then he'd by making an absurdly high jump. This was not the case.

Fact 6: Then the 3rd wasn't jumping at super sonic speed.

Fact 7: Then the FRS wasn't thrown at supersonic speed.


Conclusion: The calculation is wrong, or are you going to obliterate physics again in the defense of this measurement? In that case, any measuring is pointless.

And yet again, since when do manga adhere to pysics to a T? Since you want to keep clinging to this one example go ahead and awnser my two questions. How does Sasuke make stone conduct lighting and how does Lee jump around with weights that destroy ground when dropped, yet there's no damage when he lands.

There's no arguing that FRS crossed that gap in one second. The only you can argue is dstance, a distance that took a chunk out of a mountain range.

 

[Nattana]

Everyone except Hinata.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

And yet again, since when do manga adhere to pysics to a T? Since you want to keep clinging to this one example go ahead and awnser my two questions. How does Sasuke make stone conduct lighting and how does Lee jump around with weights that destroy ground when dropped, yet there's no damage when he lands.

There's no arguing that FRS crossed that gap in one second. The only you can argue is dstance, a distance that took a chunk out of a mountain range.

Lol. So supernatural energy source taking the form of something and not following the physics behind it means all physics irrelevant? You're trying to save a calculation by throwing out other measurements. I've come up with 2 examples that debunk it. The only thing you can do is try to abuse fictional time. At best, this means that it originally had that speed, but was retconned.

First error, DA forgets that distance makes things look smaller. Therefore, the tree might appear to be smaller if it's positioned more to the back instead of the front, making the front look bigger, and the back look smaller.


Second error, DA sees other mountains of the same size, and assumes that they're all the same height, disregarding that Naruto has to travel to the mountains, meaning there's no true evidence that the mountains in the scan of CT is the same size as the mountain there, especially considering it's in the forest area, which is off-panel.


Third error, DA uses dust to show how far FRS went. For all we know, it simply exploded at some point, and kicked up a lot of dust.


Fourth error, you can't compare pixels and height of the characters for things off-panel due to author inconsistency.

Here's an example.

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First 2 panels, Bee looks insanely huge! Last panel, he doesn't look that big at all. Using pixel comparisons for different chapters is not a good idea at all, as it can result in a huge difference.

 

[Worm]

Pissame reacted to Guy who blitzed Madara who could somewhat keep up with a guy capable of teleportation which means Pissame is near Sasuke or Naruto tier of speed. You people can keep on shitposting, but Pissame has already won this.

 

[Kagustuchi]

Lol. So supernatural energy source taking the form of something and not following the physics behind it means all physics irrelevant? You're trying to save a calculation by throwing out other measurements. I've come up with 2 examples that debunk it. The only thing you can do is try to abuse fictional time. At best, this means that it originally had that speed, but was retconned.

First error, DA forgets that distance makes things look smaller. Therefore, the tree might appear to be smaller if it's positioned more to the back instead of the front, making the front look bigger, and the back look smaller.


Second error, DA sees other mountains of the same size, and assumes that they're all the same height, disregarding that Naruto has to travel to the mountains, meaning there's no true evidence that the mountains in the scan of CT is the same size as the mountain there, especially considering it's in the forest area, which is off-panel.


Third error, DA uses dust to show how far FRS went. For all we know, it simply exploded at some point, and kicked up a lot of dust.


Fourth error, you can't compare pixels and height of the characters for things off-panel due to author inconsistency.

Here's an example.

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First 2 panels, Bee looks insanely huge! Last panel, he doesn't look that big at all. Using pixel comparisons for different chapters is not a good idea at all, as it can result in a huge difference.

I am DA, so I don't see why you keep referencing my name. You also keep dancing around the fact that impossible thing happen in a manga, but you want hold onto one instance and saying that it's the end all be all proof. Explain those two other two pysical impossibilities, then we can hold every instance in the manga to physical perfection.

- key words "looks" smaller. That doesn't really affect that example unless the tree is considerably far back compared to the mountain, which its not.

- Addressed in the thread itself

- Wouldn't be enough to throw the distance way off, even if your scenario was true.

- If your claiming author inconsistency in drawing then your example with the Raikage gets tossed out the window.

 

[Rιver]

^ Don't fall for it guys, he is not DA.

 

[Kagustuchi]

^ Don't fall for it guys, he is not DA.

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