V2 Kushina vs EMS Madara

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Kushina's red hot temper gets the best of her and she transforms into the Kyubi's V2 state. She comes across Madara on her rampage and at this point she has six tails.

Scenario 1: 6 Tails Kushina vs EMS Madara (V4 Susanoo restricted)
Scenario 2: 8 Tails Kushina vs EMS Madara (PS restricted)

Bonus scenario: BM Kushina vs Edo Madara

edit: genjutsu is restricted.
 
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Make a Full Tails scenario vs EMS Madara. It would be interesting to see.
 

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Scenario's 1 and 2 are quickly ended by genjutsu. Mismatch. BM Kushina is questionable, depends if/how much stronger her chains get, and if she has half or the entire Kyuubi. But I'd probably still favor Edo Madara over Kushina, unless we just copy and paste Naruto feats for her.
 

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Madara might win S1. Evading so that he only gets caught in the outskirts of her Bijuu Dama would mean that he tanks with little damage considering he is far more durable than KN6 or Deva Path. Not to mention his Complete Susanoo at it's largest is extremely mobile (Got the Gokage's back and then jumped onto a ledge far away in the next instant) and large. Larger than what Blind Madara used against the Bijuu.






As long as he can stop his Susanoo from getting broken by BD, I'd say that multiple slashes from Susanoo eventually penetrates Kushina's cloak and ends the match. Would've said that she easily tanks, but the feat of tanking BD isn't valid.

Madara might win S2 as well. It all depends on how strong KN8's Bijuu Dama is, cause the gap between Madara's Armored Susanoo and Complete Susanoo is massive, considering his Armored Susanoo w/ a full body is the same size as PS. Some would claim that Madara's Susanoo isn't mobile when it reaches this level and beyond, but we saw how agile Naruto and Sasuke's Avatars were, and I'm pretty sure that Rinnegan Sasuke's PS is the same size as EMS Madara's. Multiple slashes might be able to get past the cloak.


Madara might lose S3 due to Kurama's durability, but considering cutting and piercing attacks have a much much much easier time doing damage than widespread attacks (Chidori cuts B's tentacles off while they survive BD with moderate damage, Kokuo pierces Hachibi despite him being able to survive BD with moderate damage, Madara is about to kill/seriously wound him with a Susanoo blade despite him being able to survive Bijuu Dama with upper end moderate damage), I wouldn't count him out. It also depends on how strong her BM is.

Or he just ends her with Mokuton and Susanoo since she doesn't have the perk of a chakra Avatar. I honestly don't think she'd be as strong as BM Naruto.
 
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Depends on how strong you think she would become.
 

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Depends on how strong you think she would become.

You can basically take V2 Naruto's feats and double his stats because she has Full Kurama inside her. So twice the size, durability, attack power etc of her V2 state.
 

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and I'm pretty sure that Rinnegan Sasuke's PS is the same size as EMS Madara's.
i would have to disagree with this,

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notice the jewel of PS and the full body, no way is sasukes PS the same size as madaras

then theres the fact that Sasukes PS is the same size as half kurama (i dont seee any noticeable size difference between rikudo kurama avatar and regular), whereas madaras armored susnaoo was the same size as full kyuubi , let alone PS which is much larger
 
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That Madara panel is an outlier Kiff, he was never drawn so small in comparison to its jewel in any other panels. Might edit this with scans when i get on my PC.
 

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i would have to disagree with this,

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notice the jewel of PS and the full body, no way is sasukes PS the same size as madaras

then theres the fact that Sasukes PS is the same size as half kurama (i dont seee any noticeable size difference between rikudo kurama avatar and regular), whereas madaras armored susnaoo was the same size as full kyuubi , let alone PS which is much larger

Zee U already answered the scans. I'll provide the proof.



The jewel is irrelevant and the scans you posted don't show Madara's PS being bigger than Sasuke's.

And lmao. There is an obvious size different between RSM Naruto's Avatar and BSM Naruto's Avatar. BSM Naruto's Avatar is not Mountain Sized.



So no, Sasuke's PS is not as large as half Kurama. It is much larger and the same size as Madara's.
 

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Madara should still win. His Susano variants are massive and his v4 should be >8 tail kyuubi.
 
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