Only onnoki and gaara deserve their kage title

[Obito the supreme jin]

when naruto clone was at his limits , he didnt say im going to poof to real me now , what he did was say tsunade heal me up I can still fight .

Those fodders should of healed naruto clone because you best believe naruto clone wouldnt be able to go to were obito fighting team kakashi so easily , madara said he was bored and went . Dont know how anyone can defend suppose to be kages

Naruto himself stated to Tsunade that he didn't want to be healed because his real body was ready to fight Tobi. Reread the manga. Also there would be no poin in saving the Naruto clone because it look dead and it wasn't much help in the battle. Madara got good fight out of them. It wasn't that easy.

 

[BSK]

Only onoki

 

[3MESSIAH]

Gaara was a leader too, remember his speech? Not to mention, the dude was hella carrying the other 4 kages, Ohnoki did however, pay back that debt by kicking ass.



Gaara can turn any terrain (except an ocean, and metal) into a desert. He's literally OP asf if you think about it.

granted,gaara was a badass...i was just reffering to onoki being essentially the one that was leading the other kages in their fight against madara...they wanted to give up and he boosted their morale and brought them back more than once..even madara said the real problem was onoki as he couldnt break his spirit

that being said gaara saved onoki in their fight against 2nd mizukage and basically soloed him so yeah..they are both amazing

 

[sasuke213]

Naruto himself stated to Tsunade that he didn't want to be healed because his real body was ready to fight Tobi. Reread the manga. Also there would be no poin in saving the Naruto clone because it look dead and it wasn't much help in the battle. Madara got good fight out of them. It wasn't that easy.

naruto said "granny fix me up now" stop making things up . The kages were useless they didnt give him a good fight , he constantly insulted them and called them weak . Naruto , gai , kakashi ,sasuke and killer bee gave madara a good fight

and naruto clone would of be a game changer , he wouldnt of let madara just leave when he wants and would of been more useful than raikage , mei and tsunade

at times it felt like onnoki vs madara rather than 5 kages vs madara

and gaara contributed in war

 

[Mikasa Hagaromo]

Tsunade , mei and raikage should of been forced to step down immediately after the war . The raikage was supposedly the leader of the war but what did he actually achieve in the war and he was the one saying not to bring naruto and killer bee who were part of team kakashi ( kakashi , sasuke , gai) who ultimately were 100% the reason the ninja alliance won . Raikage didnt even give a speech to moviate the troops naruto did that .

Dont know how mei became kage , she was a bigger disgrace . She said to let madara go and capture the nine tails and eight tails . In the madara fight she constantly gave up and didnt want to fight madara . she acted like a coward and didnt do anything besides make her village look weaker than it already did . Gaara and oonoki were not impressed and had to tell her that their fighting till the end and she was reminded that was she was a kage and kage title is meant to mean something. No excuses either for her , gai went through tailed beasts , obito and madara . And his attitude was that was just a warm up and that he is going to get serious against defeating madara same with naruto , kakashi even the eight tails said those leaf ninjas like to act tough. and they were fighting madara plus obito and the tailed beasts

tsunade gave all this talk against madara yet got whooped and did nothing

gaara and onnoki did ok


for all the dislike name something that mei , tsunade and raikage did in the war that actually contributed to winning the war , because they didnt stop madara like they said they would .

I think Tsunade was bad ass. Not to mention all the kages are alive bc of her. I mean, chick was literally split in half and was selfless and determined enough to heal the other kages even in her state. I love me some Tsunade.

Oonoki and Gaara were great too.

I agree that Mei and Ay were underwhelming.

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

naruto said "granny fix me up now" stop making things up . The kages were useless they didnt give him a good fight , he constantly insulted them and called them weak . Naruto , gai , kakashi ,sasuke and killer bee gave madara a good fight

and naruto clone would of be a game changer , he wouldnt of let madara just leave when he wants and would of been more useful than raikage , mei and tsunade

This doesn't look like a game changer to me.

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Naruto only figured out Madara's powers later in the Bijuu fight with Madara. The Kage's were inflicting much more damage than the Shadow Clone. If I remeber correctly wasn't it Tsunade and Ay who pushed Madara back to make him use that Hashi marking he has on his chest. The Kage were very vital, all of them.

 

[KCN]

The fact that you think being a powerhouse is what makes a good Kage says it all. Politically, Tsunade is probably better than Hashirama, Hiruzen and Tobirama. Minato died too soon to tell and we have no idea what he done during that space.

 

[~Ethereal~]

Interesting.

 

[sasuke213]

I think Tsunade was bad ass. Not to mention all the kages are alive bc of her. I mean, chick was literally split in half and was selfless and determined enough to heal the other kages even in her stage. I love me some Tsunade.

Oonoki and Gaara were great too.

I agree that Mei and Ay were underwhelming.

dont know how tsunade was badass what did was actually do in the war , because after all that talk of inheriting fire of will and medical ninjustu she still lost . She of chance to redeem and fight yammato wood guy but didnt even do that .


The kages made team kakashi job even harder , because they end having to then fight madara , obito and tailed beast and team kakashi still got the job done . The kages lost to madara low diff
Name one of tsunade accomplishment in the war , for a badass she didnt do anything

 

[To Whatever]

Onnoki spent most of his term fence sitting on important issues. How does that entitle him to be a kage while the others didn't?

Power isn't all it takes to be a kage.

 

[sasuke213]

This doesn't look like a game changer to me.


Naruto only figured out Madara's powers later in the Bijuu fight with Madara. The Kage's were inflicting much more damage than the Shadow Clone. If I remeber correctly wasn't it Tsunade and Ay who pushed Madara back to make him use that Hashi marking he has on his chest. The Kage were very vital, all of them.

3 kages vs madara ( naruto clone at 40% after defeating kages already , onnoki and gaara) yet you forgot they were worn out naruto couldnt go his main mode as well

5 kages vs madara (tsunade , mei and raikage who were at 100% ) and (gaara and onnoki who got healed)

naruto clone was still keeping madara at bay and working out madara justu , if he stayed he would of done that tsunade and ay . the kage werent vital at all

 

[sasuke213]

Onnoki spent most of his term fence sitting on important issues. How does that entitle him to be a kage while the others didn't?

Power isn't all it takes to be a kage.

he was the one who told them not to give up , and to risk your life on this fight . What entitles him to be a kage is he did something in the war and got things done . people like mei , tsunade and raikage dont deserve the title , the achived nothing and done nothing to show why there a kage not a normal joinnin .

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Guys...even if the Naruto's clone stayed. When Mads whipped out the susano clones it was GG.

There was no hope for them unless Ohnoki blasted Mads with particle style and Gaara sealed him.

 

[KCN]

Onoki's a joke. The dude hired the Akatsuki many times [

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] showing what a shoddy, corrupt character he is, or at least was. When the elders tried to manipulate Tsunade like they did to Hiruzen (which led to the massacre) she straight told them to get the hell out.

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

3 kages vs madara ( naruto clone at 40% after defeating kages already , onnoki and gaara) yet you forgot they were worn out naruto couldnt go his main mode

5 kages vs madara (tsunade , mei and raikage who were at 100% ) and (gaara and onnoki who got healed)

naruto clone was still keeping madara at bay and working out madara justu , if he stayed he would of done that tsunade and ay . the kage werent vital at all

You seem to be forgetting that it was Tsunade who was healing the injured people of Shinobi Allaince so yes she was vital. The others were vital in their own ways A and the Mizukage created very skilled diversions to allow Ohonki and Gaara to attack Madara. It was a team effort to try to take down Madara. Naruto clone was assisting Gaara who was the main factor in stopping Madara's attacks.

Another point you are wrong is that the other 3 Kage weren't at 100% they each had their own battles before that and after Tsunade healed them they were at full strength. Naruto is a good fighter but seriously stop downplaying the Kages.

 

[To Whatever]

he was the one who told them not to give up , and to risk your life on this fight . What entitles him to be a kage is he did something in the war and got things done . people like mei , tsunade and raikage dont deserve the title , the achived nothing and done nothing to show why there a kage not a normal joinnin .

He told them not to give up after decades of turning a blind eye and being indifferent. What he did in the war only proves his strength and not his aptitude to lead.

Mei started working on the internet conflicts within her village. Reforming dated and savage practices to make stronger shinobi. Mei's been adamant about cleaning up Kirigakure's reputation which she made clear by attending the summit.

Tsunade also improved Konoha's policies in the medical field. There's a shinobi trained in basic medical ninjustu for every team.
She also improved relations with the other countries after Danzo.

Ay is hot headed but he's shown he has enough willpower to lead his country and make the hard decisions if he needs to. He also isn't afraid to address the elephant in the room.

Gaara speaks for himself. His actions itself prove this, he's been working on improving relations with Konoha and Suna since he was 12 years old. The Kage summit, he abandoned old ways of thinking (doing things in secret and not asking for assistance even if it's for the greater good). The only reason he was looked down upon was because of his age. That's different now that the others see just how much a leader he is in every sense of the word.

 

[sasuke213]

You seem to be forgetting that it was Tsunade who was healing the injured people of Shinobi Allaince so yes she was vital. The others were vital in their own ways A and the Mizukage created very skilled diversions to allow Ohonki and Gaara to attack Madara. It was a team effort to try to take down Madara. Naruto clone was assisting Gaara who was the main factor in stopping Madara's attacks.

Another point you are wrong is that the other 3 Kage weren't at 100% they each had their own battles before that and after Tsunade healed them they were at full strength. Naruto is a good fighter but seriously stop downplaying the Kages.

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[sasuke213]

Losing wasnt option to team kakashi no matter how strong madara , obito with tailed beasts or 10 tails madara/obito

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vs
against edo madara ( who was alot weaker than the madara who faced naruto and team)
5 kages

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why arent mei , tsunade and ay held to the same standard

 

[WalksInShadows]

Sasuke belongs to the Failed To Stop Madara Club just as much as everybody else in the alliance, so you shouldn't hold others' shortcomings against them for that. If anything, he's among the chief members because he got a boost from the original Rikudou and still failed miserably.

 

[GT Is Not Canon]

I agree about raikage, sasuke beat that ass, gaara had to save him. Thankfully dauri stepped in during epilogue, Kakashi of the cloud, 2 kekkai genkai, sword, beat kinkaku ginaku single handley with sage tools like a boss