[VS] 3-T Itachi vs Tsunade

[Lord Tywin]

Proof, make it uchiha massacre Itachi and he still wins mid diff.

 

[DrProof]

Tsunade needs to be wearing one of these things to not get decapitated.

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And even then, Itachi solos. Kunai to the brain GG.

Lmao saw some chick wearing that on My Strange Addictions. Dumbass tried to make her neck longer by like 7 inches or something. Giraffe asf.

Proof, make it uchiha massacre Itachi and he still wins mid diff.

I'd prob be low diff. Because then Tsunade fans wouldn't question him having a sword, and sword > kunai.

 

[Beans2]

Lmao saw some chick wearing that on My Strange Addictions. Dumbass tried to make her neck longer by like 7 inches or something. Giraffe asf.

I was going AZ style and using real life manga facts.

 

[KingHashirama]

Genjutsu > Tsunade.

Clones are instantaneous on summoning. It's a S/T Technique, once summoned pre-cog Clone Explosion solos.

CQC Itachi can handle his own, especially with being faster than Tsunade.

Kunai/Sword to the eyesocket/brain/neck destroys..

Byakugou makes the genjutsu irrelevant, chakra disruption will keep on happening. And Tsunade is then too much of a skilled ninja to not realize a genjutsu as obvious as Itachi's genjutsus. She will know if shes in a genjutsu. Thats all Owarij's argument relies on ( a person not being able to sense they are in a genjutsu).


Now lets take a look at what Genjutsu actually does.

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Its a mere disruption of the chakra in your brain, and how effectively it is controlled by your opponent. The reason jutsus like KA and Tsukyuomi are so good and effective is due to the fact they give higher level of control inside the opponent's chakra. However, clearly this did not work for Madara against Hashirama (as he never tried to use genjutsu against him), or Izuna and Tobirama..

Itachi's 3-tomoe Genjutsu is highly inferior to the chakra control of someone like Tsunade, she will simply notice the disruption in her chakra as she will be looking out for it, and then will proceed to casually counter it.

Genjutsu comes down to chakra control. Feel free to prove me wrong.


Clone explosion isn't soloing, when she can just leap a great distance away from the explosion in a mere second.

Nope, Tsunade's striking speed and CQC skills will be superior, as she most of her life has trained in that art like Gai and Ay and so on. Someone like a 3-tomoe user isn't dominating her in CQC whether its Itachi or Madara (though Madara's clone was wrecked in CQC already tho).

Good luck to him accomplishing it, especially considering Madara Uchiha couldn't.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Lmao saw some chick wearing that on My Strange Addictions. Dumbass tried to make her neck longer by like 7 inches or something. Giraffe asf.


I'd prob be low diff. Because then Tsunade fans wouldn't question him having a sword, and sword > kunai.

Yeah Itachi was blood lusted that night, so it's a stomp match up. My bad.

 

[Worm]

Yasaka magatama

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. That same attack

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than Itachi swinging his kunai. In conclusion, I don't see Itachi slicing Tsunade's arms off.

Disagreed. Yasaka Magatama is straight up a blunt attack that doesn't really go through your skin and muscle like butter. Itachi sliced off Orochimaru's limb while Orochimaru was capable of tanking KN3 Naruto rocking him in the face and sending him flying meters away while crashing into the ground at the same time. It's obvious which attack has more destructive force behind it. Yet Itachi was capable of cutting off Orochimaru's limbs. Bee is another case of this. Can tank his own TBB, but gets pierced by simlistic horn and gets his tentacles cut off by Sasuke's Raiton.

What I'm saying is that piercing and slicing attacks have much more effect than blunt attacks on durable characters in NV which has been proven times and times again.

 

[Zexion~]

Disagreed. Yasaka Magatama is straight up a blunt attack that doesn't really go through your skin and muscle like butter. Itachi sliced off Orochimaru's limb while Orochimaru was capable of tanking KN3 Naruto rocking him in the face and sending him flying meters away while crashing into the ground at the same time. It's obvious which attack has more destructive force behind it. Yet Itachi was capable of cutting off Orochimaru's limbs. Bee is another case of this. Can tank his own TBB, but gets pierced by simlistic horn and gets his tentacles cut off by Sasuke's Raiton.

What I'm saying is that piercing and slicing attacks have much more effect than blunt attacks on durable characters in NV which has been proven times and times again.

YM's rip through the opponent bro, they're sharp for a reason, they are basically giant OP Shurikan.

 

[Worm]

YM's rip through the opponent bro, they're sharp for a reason, they are basically giant OP Shurikan.

I don't really remember YM cutting through anything in the manga. Even in the cave and against Gaara's and Ohnoki's defense, it just crashed into it and created a cloud of smoke. Didn't really slice through anything. I mean, it has a pretty fat edge if we're talking about cutting. And the very fact that it created so much impact when landing on Tsunade instead of trying to cut through her is pretty much testimony to that.

 

[Zexion~]

Link when it was used against Tsunade, don't recall that.

But you can see that they have sharp edges

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It didn't crash into anything, it cut right into it. You can even see it sliced right through a stalagmite.

Databook says it pierces so its sharp somewhere :lol

Magatama

Releasing a war deity, one of the three treasures is thrown and will travel thousands of miles (figure of speech, just means it will travel over great distances) to pierce the enemy.

The Jutsu that is Itachi's most powerful long distance attack.

During the recent great ninja war Susano'o activation was shown

Magatama looks like a giant sharingan pattern (Basically), and is thrown like a Shuriken.

It was used against Nagato's Chibaku Tensei, it was used at the same time as Naruto's FuutonRasenshuriken and B's TBB, to hit and erase Chibkau Tensei.

 

[Worm]

Link when it was used against Tsunade, don't recall that.

But you can see that they have sharp edges

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It didn't crash into anything, it cut right into it. You can even see it sliced right through a stalagmite.

Databook says it pierces so its sharp somewhere :lol

Just scroll up to Ice's reply to me.

And I am telling you, that is far too much impact and destructive force behind something that cuts. You can throw Obito's huge ass shurikens at a wall and it won't impact into it like that. And Zex, YM is pretty blunt in that pic you shown me. It smashed the lower half of the stalagmite if anything. I mean, if you want a clear perspective on a YM, here it is:

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^ This is literally blunt as all hell. And technically, it does bury into the ground on the moment of impact so it does kinda ''pierce'' into it, but regardless, something sharp that cuts won't create so much blunt destruction on impact regardless of it's weight.

YM is based off on a Sharingan pattern, not a Shuriken so yeah.

 

[Zexion~]

Just scroll up to Ice's reply to me.

And I am telling you, that is far too much impact and destructive force behind something that cuts. You can throw Obito's huge ass shurikens at a wall and it won't impact into it like that. And Zex, YM is pretty blunt in that pic you shown me. It smashed the lower half of the stalagmite if anything. I mean, if you want a clear perspective on a YM, here it is:

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^ This is literally blunt as all hell. And technically, it does bury into the ground on the moment of impact so it does kinda ''pierce'' into it, but regardless, something sharp that cuts won't create so much blunt destruction on impact regardless of it's weight.

YM is based off on a Sharingan pattern, not a Shuriken so yeah.

Bruh the DB Says it pierces.

And that doesn't look that blunt at all in fact it looks quite sharp, if the rotating blade strikes the opponent it will most definitely cause some slicing. Tsunade was most likely just lucky enough to be hit with the base of it instead.

Obito's shurikan is thin metal though I believe, nor will it be thrown with the strength of a Susano'o behind it, put it in the same position and it will make a slightly smaller impact but still an impact.


Edit- Actually in the manner it was used it probably just didn't get enough rotational force around it, or speed for the slicing to take into affect either that or the blade missed because that image quite clearly shows a sharp blade.

 

[Worm]

Bruh the DB Says it pierces.

And that doesn't look that blunt at all in fact it looks quite sharp, if the rotating blade strikes the opponent it will most definitely cause some slicing. Tsunade was most likely just lucky enough to be hit with the base of it instead.

Obito's shurikan is thin metal though I believe, nor will it be thrown with the strength of a Susano'o behind it, put it in the same position and it will make a slightly smaller impact but still an impact.


Edit- Actually in the manner it was used it probably just didn't get enough rotational force around it, or speed for the slicing to take into affect either that or the blade missed because that image quite clearly shows a sharp blade.

Cutting and piercing aren't the same thing though. If the DB says something like YM thrown like a Shuriken pierces instead of cuts, it's a bit contradictory to say it will slice you in half.

But anyways, yes. Tsunade didn't really get either pierced or sliced despite manga already showing us a sword can cut her/pierce her which is the whole point I was trying to make. That she was hit by blunt force and that Itachi's Kunai would still be able to cut off her limbs just like he did to Orochimaru.

 

[Zexion~]

Cutting and piercing aren't the same thing though. If the DB says something like YM thrown like a Shuriken pierces instead of cuts, it's a bit contradictory to say it will slice you in half.

But anyways, yes. Tsunade didn't really get either pierced or sliced despite manga already showing us a sword can cut her/pierce her which is the whole point I was trying to make. That she was hit by blunt force and that Itachi's Kunai would still be able to cut off her limbs just like he did to Orochimaru.

Yeah probably although Tsunade is naturally bulkier than Oro :lol

Bruh that blade is thin and looks sharp as hell when Itachi used it, Madara was right there and just kinda blasted it at her from point blank, it was basically getting hit with chakra :lol Doubt they even left the string

 

[Nattana]

So this is Sharingan-less Itachi?

Tsunade wins lol.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Tsunade wrecks, it's not even funny

 

[Bantos]

Tsunade takes this for obvious reasons. Regular sharingan Itachi is not a threat to her.

 

[-Akuma-]

Itachi beats her ass.

 

[Strict]

When will people learn, that Byakugo is useless against Genjutsu?

Byakugou makes the genjutsu irrelevant, chakra disruption will keep on happening.

If the Chakra flow is interrupted, she can't use Jutsu. For using Jutsu, your Chakra needs to be stable. If Byakugo involves chakra dsruption, she can't use Jutsu; neither Ninjutsu, nor Taijutsu and Genjutsu (that includes her strength, which is the result of her focusing Chakra into her attacks.

Itachi summons a bunch of crows which he sends to her, then goes with a Bunshin with close combat which she will mistake for the original and attack him, whereupon Itachi lets it explode. Let's say she won't die, but taking a massive impact will weaken her enough so Itachi can finish her before Byakugo does the job. A heavy explosion from close range can easily end with lost limbs.

 

[KingHashirama]

When will people learn, that Byakugo is useless against Genjutsu?

When you learn that its very effective.

If the Chakra flow is interrupted, she can't use Jutsu. For using Jutsu, your Chakra needs to be stable. If Byakugo involves chakra dsruption, she can't use Jutsu; neither Ninjutsu, nor Taijutsu and Genjutsu (that includes her strength, which is the result of her focusing Chakra into her attacks.

False. You are assuming she does it during the genjutsu. She can easily break the genjutsu casually as Itachi's genjutsu will never allow him a greater chakra control of Tsunade's chakra than Tsunade herself. She easily notice the disruption in her chakra flow and proceed to break it. This is the advantage of her mastering chakra precision.

Byakugou once activated can provide a counter to genjutsu everytime, due to the fact it will be going against the flow of Itachi's control.

Him actually keeping in a genjutsu with a 3-tomoe is a bloody joke dude.

Itachi summons a bunch of crows which he sends to her, then goes with a Bunshin with close combat which she will mistake for the original and attack him, whereupon Itachi lets it explode. Let's say she won't die, but taking a massive impact will weaken her enough so Itachi can finish her before Byakugo does the job. A heavy explosion from close range can easily end with lost limbs.

This is cute.. but it only works in fan-fic.

Tsunade can in near an instant can leap far away from an explosion. And when it comes to clone she has no reason to actually attack them herself. Breaking the ground works perfectly fine. He can't finish her.. thats the thing. Everything he has is inferior..

 

[HiddenSound]

It's literally always the same people who say Tsunade no matter what she's up against.