Anybody forgetting how strong and fast Naruto is in base RSM?

[Ging]

Nice thread.

Naruto is currently the strongest alive character in NV

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Naruto is indeed fast but I mean... Why is this hyped? His attack was blocked by a severely injured juubi Jin madara pre Shinju absorbed so... I mean...

 

[Romy9]

Naruto is indeed fast but I mean... Why is this hyped? His attack was blocked by a severely injured juubi Jin madara pre Shinju absorbed so... I mean...

His speed is hyped. The attack landing or not is irrelevant here, unless you want to divert the fault from the obvious feat. The opponent after all, was Madara.

 

[SMX]

What? Surprise one shots ,that Madara didnt think was coming because he thought zetsu was loyal and was his own will when infact was Kaguya ?

If your impressed by what black zetsu did...then

lellelelelel;

still soloed an "immortal"

 

[SMX]

Nice thread.

Naruto is currently the strongest alive character in NV

how when theirs someone stronger than kaguya that both sasuke and Naruto have to fight in the upcoming movie

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

His speed is hyped. The attack landing or not is irrelevant here, unless you want to divert the fault from the obvious feat. The opponent after all, was Madara.

The speed was what I was referring to the entire time actually... I mean, non rikoudo people have shown better speed feats, rock lee, might gai, Satori, gaara's sand, etc. We all understand that Naruto is fast, so idk why this is hyped when better speed fears have been shown, also the opponent is also a factor, minato's FTG is incredibly fast, but stopped being hyped after juubi Jin madara reacted to it. See what I mean?

 

[Romy9]

The speed was what I was referring to the entire time actually... I mean, non rikoudo people have shown better speed feats, rock lee, might gai, Satori, gaara's sand, etc. We all understand that Naruto is fast, so idk why this is hyped when better speed fears have been shown, also the opponent is also a factor, minato's FTG is incredibly fast, but stopped being hyped after juubi Jin madara reacted to it. See what I mean?

The point here is that Kishimoto can't depict a speed that is faster on the paper than the rest of the high-end speeds. It looks the same as every other instant or very fast movement. The only way to gauge it is by examining the opponent. And the speed he displayed seemed at least like Hiraishin. Also, if Madara got hit by that, it would've seemed way too easy, don't yout hink?

 

[iNotorious]

LOL. Madara was severely injured. Even base lee could have probably tagged him at that point.

Re-read the chapter.

Yeah so technically, there is only one RSM. The other modes are just RSM added to something else.

That's like saying BM = BSM, log out.

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

The point here is that Kishimoto can't depict a speed that is faster on the paper than the rest of the high-end speeds. It looks the same as every other instant or very fast movement. The only way to gauge it is by examining the opponent. And the speed he displayed seemed at least like Hiraishin. Also, if Madara got hit by that, it would've seemed way too easy, don't yout hink?

But then that's be inconsistent writing, because, albeit full health, he casually reacted to FTG and dodged the 7th gate with the simplest of ease with the only damage madara sustained was poofy hair. I think the anime should depict it better though since they can gauge it. Ifmeven if madara got hit by that, then people would make excuses that he was injured. It looked like the distance between madara and Naruto, if we want to think about it simply was at least 10 yards, hopefully the anime depicts it well

 

[Romy9]

But then that's be inconsistent writing, because, albeit full health, he casually reacted to FTG and dodged the 7th gate with the simplest of ease with the only damage madara sustained was poofy hair. I think the anime should depict it better though since they can gauge it. Ifmeven if madara got hit by that, then people would make excuses that he was injured. It looked like the distance between madara and Naruto, if we want to think about it simply was at least 10 yards, hopefully the anime depicts it well

Yeah, exactly. I'm hoping as well that the animation will present it better. Although that's also very limited in depiction, specially with the poor animation lately.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Re-read the chapter.



That's like saying BM = BSM, log out.

Of course they are different. And appropriately called different things. Not RSM version1. Version 2 blah blah. I know they are different. When it's called that I think CM or raikage lightening amplification. Where they are just upping the output.

 

[Im Still Robin]

You're beyond retarded .. this is RSM without cloak, plus Madara was hurt, and he even blocked that attack it just slide him into the tree.

And Sasuke would be faster (inb4 people say he had rinnegan he wasn't base .. rinnegan doesn't enhance anything on the body like you think it does)

 

[chaos control]

Of course they are different. And appropriately called different things. Not RSM version1. Version 2 blah blah. I know they are different. When it's called that I think CM or raikage lightening amplification. Where they are just upping the output.

The RSM version 1, version 2, etc... that the OP is talking about however, is not just upping the output like the raikage's lightning armor. The different "versions" actually give Naruto different abilities (that are actually significant as well).

Version 3 gave Naruto access to truth seeking balls, something that base RSM and version 2 (Kurama's chakara only) did not. Versions 2 and 3 also allow Naruto to go into bijuu mode and use chakara arms and what not (something that base RSM Naruto can not do).

You are talking as if the OP is wrong in distinguishing between the different forms with different nomenclature, but if you analyze the abilities of each, then you can clearly see that they are at least worthy of distinguishing from one another.

Besides, what do you want us to call the modes? By your logic, then every time we want to refer to Naruto's strongest mode, we have to say:

"Naruto went into RSM + all bijuus' chakaras" or "RSM + truth seeking balls and cloak". Either way that is a mouthful to say and too tedious to type every single time.

Therefore version 1, version 2, and version 3 are appropriate ways to distinguish it.

You could also say something like:
base RSM
Kurama RSM
9 bijuus' RSM

Either way, some distinguishing in the nomenclature is necessary in discussion if people are going to be nitpicky with the whole thing about the form we saw in the war not being what RSM actually is.

 

[solorflare99]

You know it is RSM if he has Truth Seaking Balls and/or can fly. Simple as that. RSM isn't some fan made mode. It is recognized in the fourth databook.