Madara and Hashirama

[solorflare99]

you want to know what the chief difference here is? I'm bringing up things that actually happened to prove my point. You're resorting to using hypothetical situations as a means of trying to prove a point. At the end of the day, it's all you got.

Actually it is the other way around because you aren't bringing up things that actually happened only assuming while I'm showing what the manga portrayed by keeping it the same and removing one aspect.
I'm subtracting from the manga, you are adding to it.
Because I said without Black Zetsu Madara would have lost.
You are implying that even without black zetsu he wouldn't have, which goes against what the Manga presented.
Is that a difficult concept for you to grasp.
Here is another way to look at it.
I'm saying that because of what happened in the manga, Madara escaped defeat due to assistance from black zetsu.
You are proposing that by negating that assistances would have the result in with madara still escaping defeat.

I'm only saying that the manga supports that Madara needed help. you on the other hand are using your imagination to say that, no the manga events don't matter because (insert assumption) thus the burden of proof is upon your shoulder bub.

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

Well it is a merit of Hashirama if managed to stop the Kyuubi. Madara was launching 20 bijuu dama in the meantime, but Hashi won the same.

No, Madara EMS is not equal to Hashirama SM. Madara had captured kyuubi own to compete with Hashirama^^

I love Madara, bit objectively it is so.

Then why the fight after SM Hashi put Kurama to sleep went to extreme high diff and not a mid diff for SM Hashirama? Kurama is a tool here, a summon. Madara controlled him with his Sharingan. I respect Hashirama and I said he might be a bit stronger but that's it.

 

[WalksInShadows]

Actually it is the other way around because you aren't bringing up things that actually happened only assuming while I'm showing what the manga portrayed by keeping it the same and removing one aspect.
I'm subtracting from the manga, you are adding to it.
Because I said without Black Zetsu Madara would have lost.
You are implying that even without black zetsu he wouldn't have, which goes against what the Manga presented.
Is that a difficult concept for you to grasp.
Here is another way to look at it.
I'm saying that because of what happened in the manga, Madara escaped defeat due to assistance from black zetsu.
You are proposing that by negating that assistances would have the result in with madara still escaping defeat.

I'm only saying that the manga supports that Madara needed help. you on the other hand are using your imagination to say that, no the manga events don't matter because (insert assumption) thus the burden of proof is upon your shoulder bub.

so i guess i imagined Madara neg diffing Hashirama after he said the fight wasn't over. Ok, you sure showed me

 

[solorflare99]

If it was Jiraiy, Tsunade, or Orochimaru you would have no problem with Summoning being used to display a person's power.

If Madara has Kyuubi as his summoning and that was enough to make Hashirama beat Madara within an inch of his life I would say they are about equal. Madara(VOTE) = Hashirama(VOTE)

so i guess i imagined Madara neg diffing Hashirama after he said the fight wasn't over. Ok, you sure showed me

No it is your imagination that Madara could have soloed. Madara was saved, that's all you have to admit. then you can say Madara wins.

 

[WalksInShadows]

No it is your imagination that Madara could have soloed. Madara was saved, that's all you have to admit. then you can say Madara wins.

this tells me all i need to know about your ability to read and comprehend sentences.

 

[Itachi san88]

So Madara blind> Hashirama? Please, It does not make sense.

The duel was over, Hashirama had blocked Madara and if Obito had not used the Rinne Tensei at that time, Madara was about to be sealed.

Madara was lucky that Obito was defeated at that moment.

After there was no duel between the two....Madara took advantage of those things black in the back of Hashirama to block his movements, but the duel had won Hashirama......

 

[solorflare99]

this tells me all i need to know about your ability to read and comprehend sentences.

This tells me you deny facts and have an overactive imagination leading you to believe you were the author of Naruto.

 

[WalksInShadows]

This tells me you deny facts and have an overactive imagination leading you to believe you were the author of Naruto.

w/e you gotta say to feel better about yourself.

 

[solorflare99]

w/e you gotta say to feel better about yourself.

I feel great knowing a I didn't have resort to relying petty insults to end a debate .
When I'm wrong I can learn to admit it, you should learn to do the same.
At this point it not a matter of whether or not you think Madara won or "negg diff" as you like to put, because that would be too much to tackle all at once. Just the fact that you can't even admit that Madara was saved shows a lot about your character. Just because we disagree doesn't mean we can't have respect for each other. Your actions make it difficult though.

 

[Kushina san]

Boys, edo Hashirama defeated in a duel edo Madara...Neither of the two It was 100%, but Hashirama managed to immobilize him and absorb his chakra, so he won. Madara could not do anything until it was resurrected....

I do not see why to deny it And I'm a big fan of Madara lol

 

[WalksInShadows]

I feel great knowing a I didn't have resort to relying petty insults to end a debate .
When I'm wrong I can learn to admit it, you should learn to do the same.
At this point it not a matter of whether or not you think Madara won or "negg diff" as you like to put, because that would be too much to tackle all at once. Just the fact that you can't even admit that Madara was saved shows a lot about your character. Just because we disagree doesn't mean we can't have respect for each other. Your actions make it difficult though.

you just spent numerous posts making attempts at trying to insult me as well, but i guess i just imagined those too, right? Get over yourself.

 

[SatanicGod]

yeah and to be stronger than hashirama, sasky need sosp and all the other powers he has gotten from other people which he never once worked for unlike Madara, hate all you want buy Madara will forever be stronger than that fodder sasku lmao

also, Rinnegan Maara negs Hashirama, he is not ''on par'' with hashirama, he is far above him



not sure if you sasky fappers are srs

Not sure if you are serious or not but why bring Sasuke up when OP is comparing Madara and Hashirama

 

[solorflare99]

you just spent numerous posts making attempts at trying to insult me as well, but i guess i just imagined those too, right? Get over yourself.

Sorry "negging yourself" is an insult. I was just trying be on common ground and use the same terminologies. Apologies for anything else that offended you, I was unaware.