Establishing Why Sasuke>Kaguya[Mangafacts]

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Amazing thread.

People should also take note of the fact that the villains in the new movie are stronger and scarier than Kaguya and we see Sasuke casually soloing then both.
 

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Amazing thread.

People should also take note of the fact that the villains in the new movie are stronger and scarier than Kaguya and we see Sasuke casually soloing then both.

GASP! You saw the movie! What happens at the end? Does Naruto die and Sasuke become Hokage.
 

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Toying with her dimensions is an overstatement.

Sasuke has to look for the greater threat in hopes to protect people. He has no other options and in no way does it suggest he thinks he's stronger.

Sasuke refuses Naruto's help because only his eyes can investigate it and it would be in both their interests if Naruto stayed, running the village and affairs with the other villages.

Far scarier than Kaguya which suggest Kaguya is still scary to Sasuke.

His goal is to prevent that something scarier than Kaguya from happening, not defeat it on his own. Did you not notice as soon as Sasuke had information on SHIN, not even the real threat, he contacted Naruto. The same is certain to happen if he finds the new threat.


Do you not have any reading comprehension skills?

1.Why is an overstatement?

2.Yes indeed he has to look for the greater threat to protect people.He does have an option because he isn't the kage so he DOESN'T have to protect anything but his family, it's just he prefers to do it because he wants everyone to be safe.Who is forcing him to do it?

3.Sasuke refused Naruto's help yes because his eyes are the only things that can track it but Naruto could help in other ways too, if he travels with Sasuke and they come across this thing they can both fight it but since he refused it he obviously thinks he can hold it off alone until he has confirmed things and than LATER returns to get Naruto.

4.No It doesn't, he only used that term in order to compare it for Naruto and maybe the other kages.

5. You missed my point, I said he obviously thinks he can hold it off or MAYBE even defeat it because he is taking this risk. I never said he WAS going to defeat it. I would think that if he would hold it off and than leave to get Naruto, than return and defeat it with him as it would be easier and quicker.So what if he contacted Naruto?He did it to warn Naruto about it as at any moment it could have attacked the village or even attacked Naruto so it was the best to tell him about it.

There you go I put your whole points down the toilet. Now re read until you have simple comprehensions skills to understand mangafacts scrub. :lmao:
 

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All you did was fail to interpret scans. I'd like to see you try and tackle all of my counter arguments.


The henchmen is confirmed to be fighting on equal grounds as Sasuke. Stop trolling.

Easier to fight against? The fight was less dramatic but they needed 5 people, Hagoromo's chakra, and many asspulls to keep up. It was just poor writing in terms of the fight but the portrayal of her abilities was there.

*One arm Sasuke. And even if they needed 5 people, Haku, Deidara, Nagato, Itachi all put them through near death experiences, she didn't do shit besides runaway from them.

The only reason the fight was difficult was because of the hide and seek tactics that only fodders with no balls tend to use.
 

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Neither Naruto nor Sasuke are still capable of beating Kaguya alone. Sasuke's mission is simply espionage, to gather intel, not to take on the being by himself in combat. If you think that he's on par with Kaguya just because he can travel through dimensions, then you're not analyzing what he said properly. He uses his S/T a couple times and his chakra is done, reverting him to a helpless target. He doesn't have enough chakra to take on Kaguya by himself.
 

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Neither Naruto nor Sasuke are still capable of beating Kaguya alone. Sasuke's mission is simply espionage, to gather intel, not to take on the being by himself in combat. If you think that he's on par with Kaguya just because he can travel through dimensions, then you're not analyzing what he said properly. He uses his S/T a couple times and his chakra is done, reverting him to a helpless target. He doesn't have enough chakra to take on Kaguya by himself.

His chakra was done? that isn't true. He was only reverted to base Rinnegan and base 3T. Base Rinnegan by feats is in now way helpless. And you don't even know how many jumps he can do without tiring.
 

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Kaguya > Sasuke

It's just that simple, not even Naruto/Sasuke could beat her alone.
 

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His chakra was done? that isn't true. He was only reverted to base Rinnegan and base 3T. Base Rinnegan by feats is in now way helpless. And you don't even know how many jumps he can do without tiring.

Do you know how long after he was able to use his base Rinnegan again? We don't. There are no manga panels to show that, so your post is only assumptions. I don't know how many jumps he's capable of without tiring, but I know Kaguya will still have dimmensional travel when Sasuke runs out.
 

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Neither Naruto nor Sasuke are still capable of beating Kaguya alone. Sasuke's mission is simply espionage, to gather intel, not to take on the being by himself in combat. If you think that he's on par with Kaguya just because he can travel through dimensions, then you're not analyzing what he said properly. He uses his S/T a couple times and his chakra is done, reverting him to a helpless target. He doesn't have enough chakra to take on Kaguya by himself.

No what I was saying is that there is a high chance that Sasuke meets this "thing" while he looks for it, he obviously wouldn't look for it if he was going to die to it, so this means we can assume that he is on at least Kaguya's level because he thinks he can either defeat the thing far scarier than Kaguya or hold it off. Also we don't know too much yet about Adult Sasuke's powers. Remember Naruto and Sasuke were 16 or 17 when they fought Kaguya and in "the last" Sasuke destroyed a whole meteor with a simple Chidori.

Furthermore, he got probably got smarter and wiser on top of getting physically stronger and brains is a big factor in a fight.Kakashi's stamina and chakra improved in the ninja war so I don't see why a 16/17 year old's would not improve when 28+ year old's improved. Current Sasuke is a lot stronger than the Sasuke that fought Kaguya.
 

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*One arm Sasuke. And even if they needed 5 people, Haku, Deidara, Nagato, Itachi all put them through near death experiences, she didn't do shit besides runaway from them.

The only reason the fight was difficult was because of the hide and seek tactics that only fodders with no balls tend to use.
She has no balls because she's a girl, lol. It's a fighting style that almost got Sasuke killed if Obito and Sakura weren't there.

Let's list the asspulls and luck. Meeting the sage, absolute luck. Rin saving Obito and Kakashi, huge asspull, Obito coming back and giving Kakashi his chakra, Largest asspull that was the deciding factor in winning. Kaguya would have destroyed Naruto and Sasuke together. Tell me she's overrated again. Your counter was cute though.


1.Why is an overstatement?

2.Yes indeed he has to look for the greater threat to protect people.He does have an option because he isn't the kage so he DOESN'T have to protect anything but his family, it's just he prefers to do it because he wants everyone to be safe.Who is forcing him to do it?

3.Sasuke refused Naruto's help yes because his eyes are the only things that can track it but Naruto could help in other ways too, if he travels with Sasuke and they come across this thing they can both fight it but since he refused it he obviously thinks he can hold it off alone until he has confirmed things and than LATER returns to get Naruto.

4.No It doesn't, he only used that term in order to compare it for Naruto and maybe the other kages.

5. You missed my point, I said he obviously thinks he can hold it off or MAYBE even defeat it because he is taking this risk. I never said he WAS going to defeat it. I would think that if he would hold it off and than leave to get Naruto, than return and defeat it with him as it would be easier and quicker.So what if he contacted Naruto?He did it to warn Naruto about it as at any moment it could have attacked the village or even attacked Naruto so it was the best to tell him about it.

There you go I put your whole points down the toilet. Now re read until you have simple comprehensions skills to understand mangafacts scrub. :lmao:


Nothing suggesting he was toying. He just demonstrated the ability that he could, he even had to wait for his powers to come back.

If a greater threat was coming, his family would be in danger too, so no, he still has no options but to look for the threat even if he was weaker, your counter had no logic to it. And still, it's out of character to let the people to die. Still, no options. The fact that his life and everyone else's is at stake is the largest force there is.

Him finding the villain does not mean he'll fight it right away and he didn't know how long it would take, it's still been several years. Naruto leaving would be extremely inefficient for the village and worldly affairs.

You can't say he only used the term for Naruto without proof. That is far fetched.

I did not miss your point. And again, what you're saying is just your own interpretations.

You are not even remotely smart when it comes to these things. All you try to do is structure huge grasps at straws into what seems like "manga facts" when they really have no concrete proof. I'll give you more proof and then dissect your lame thread style right now.

In the movie, it's been confirmed Sasuke is equal to the henchman of the main enemy. Meaning he cannot keep up with the main villain.

Now to address your thread style.

All you do is structure your weak arguments well, dissecting the arguments will show that your points are weak.

I bet you only do it to "rustle jimmies" and here's your method: Try and pass off exaggerations about Sasuke's power even though you have no concrete proof. You do this by pretending your assumptions like in this thread are manga facts. Also, when caught you pretend like you're a puppet master as you say you are when in reality it's common sense that people will react to your idiotic posts. You are the true scrub.

You can try again but you'll only fail and I'm fasting meaning I'm immensely hungry so don't expect me to bother again. Just try to have actual arguments.


No what I was saying is that there is a high chance that Sasuke meets this "thing" while he looks for it, he obviously wouldn't look for it if he was going to die to it, so this means we can assume that he is on at least Kaguya's level because he thinks he can either defeat the thing far scarier than Kaguya or hold it off. Also we don't know too much yet about Adult Sasuke's powers. Remember Naruto and Sasuke were 16 or 17 when they fought Kaguya and in "the last" Sasuke destroyed a whole meteor with a simple Chidori.

Furthermore, he got probably got smarter and wiser on top of getting physically stronger and brains is a big factor in a fight.Kakashi's stamina and chakra improved in the ninja war so I don't see why a 16/17 year old's would not improve when 28+ year old's improved. Current Sasuke is a lot stronger than the Sasuke that fought Kaguya.
Those are all assumptions plus Naruto and Sasuke had many help and asspulls on their side against Kaguya.
 
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No what I was saying is that there is a high chance that Sasuke meets this "thing" while he looks for it, he obviously wouldn't look for it if he was going to die to it, so this means we can assume that he is on at least Kaguya's level because he thinks he can either defeat the thing far scarier than Kaguya or hold it off. Also we don't know too much yet about Adult Sasuke's powers. Remember Naruto and Sasuke were 16 or 17 when they fought Kaguya and in "the last" Sasuke destroyed a whole meteor with a simple Chidori.

Furthermore, he got probably got smarter and wiser on top of getting physically stronger and brains is a big factor in a fight.Kakashi's stamina and chakra improved in the ninja war so I don't see why a 16/17 year old's would not improve when 28+ year old's improved. Current Sasuke is a lot stronger than the Sasuke that fought Kaguya.

Sasuke's smart, he'd definately go in with an escape plan rather than the objective to fight and die, thus not being able to go back and share what he knows. He is stronger than his younger self, still not stronger than Kaguya though. You stated boldly in the title that Sasuke>Kaguya [Mangafacts], when actually all you have in your OP is that you think that sasuke thinks he is strong enough to battle this threat which is more fierce than Kaguya. And I'm still yet to see any manga facts to support your statement.
 

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Going and looking for clues to the whereabouts of a new threat does not equate to finding and defeating a new threat single-handedly.
In the Boruto movie, the villain is said to be as strong as Sasuke. Sasuke, who stated, believe something is scarier than Kaguya. To be more scarier than Kaguya, you must be stronger than Kaguya. I don't see an opponent weaker than Kaguya being scary to Sasuke.

If these new villain(s) are on par with Sasuke, it confirms Sasuke > Kaguya.

Do the math.


OT: Admitting that Sasuke is stronger than Kaguya mean admitting that their favorite character is below Sasuke.


Edit: It seems everyone forget that Kaguya was taking chakra from Shinju. >_>
 
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She has no balls because she's a girl, lol. It's a fighting style that almost got Sasuke killed if Obito and Sakura weren't there.

Let's list the asspulls and luck. Meeting the sage, absolute luck. Rin saving Obito and Kakashi, huge asspull, Obito coming back and giving Kakashi his chakra, Largest asspull that was the deciding factor in winning. Kaguya would have destroyed Naruto and Sasuke together. Tell me she's overrated again. Your counter was cute though.





Nothing suggesting he was toying. He just demonstrated the ability that he could, he even had to wait for his powers to come back.

If a greater threat was coming, his family would be in danger too, so no, he still has no options but to look for the threat even if he was weaker, your counter had no logic to it. And still, it's out of character to let the people to die. Still, no options. The fact that his life and everyone else's is at stake is the largest force there is.

Him finding the villain does not mean he'll fight it right away and he didn't know how long it would take, it's still been several years. Naruto leaving would be extremely inefficient for the village and worldly affairs.

You can't say he only used the term for Naruto without proof. That is far fetched.

I did not miss your point. And again, what you're saying is just your own interpretations.

You are not even remotely smart when it comes to these things. All you try to do is structure huge grasps at straws into what seems like "manga facts" when they really have no concrete proof. I'll give you more proof and then dissect your lame thread style right now.

In the movie, it's been confirmed Sasuke is equal to the henchman of the main enemy. Meaning he cannot keep up with the main villain.

Now to address your thread style.

All you do is structure your weak arguments well, dissecting the arguments will show that your points are weak.

I bet you only do it to "rustle jimmies" and here's your method: Try and pass off exaggerations about Sasuke's power even though you have no concrete proof. You do this by pretending your assumptions like in this thread are manga facts. Also, when caught you pretend like you're a puppet master when in reality it's common sense that people will react to your idiotic posts. You are the true scrub.

You can try again but you'll only fail and I'm fasting meaning I'm immensely hungry so don't expect me to bother again. Just try to have actual arguments.



Those are all assumptions plus Naruto and Sasuke had many help and asspulls on their side against Kaguya.

What absolute nonsense. "You are the true scrub. " Obviously not because you seem to know a lot about my "puppet master" gimmick even though I have not done it in a long time now, you are a HaterFtw fanboy... we know.

" so no, he still has no options but to look for the threat even if he was weaker, " You sure he can't go to a safe dimension or a place or a hideout with his family? He does not have to do it as it's not his responsibility to babysit anyone in the village except for his loved ONES (Sakura and Sarada).

"You are not even remotely smart when it comes to these things." listen here rooty poo I never said I was smart and never would say I am smart over a fictional manga in a serious manner, so you since you brought that point up tell me if your IQ goes near 138, how many A* you have for your A Level AND if you speak 3 languages fluently as well as finished secondary school with great results and 0 revision.

"In the movie, it's been confirmed Sasuke is equal to the henchman of the main enemy. Meaning he cannot keep up with the main villain. " who said the henchman of the main villain isn't stronger or very close to strength to the main villain himself?
I didn't know you saw the movie so early.

You can't say he only used the term for Naruto without proof. That is far fetched. So who did he use it for Einstein?

"You can try again but you'll only fail and I'm fasting meaning I'm immensely hungry so don't expect me to bother again" Translated to ----> You can destroy my invalid counter arguments and destroy anything I bring to the table so I am just going to say I am hungry and I won't bother again... dodging skills better than Mayweather's.
 

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What absolute nonsense. "You are the true scrub. " Obviously not because you seem to know a lot about my "puppet master" gimmick even though I have not done it in a long time now, you are a HaterFtw fanboy... we know.

" so no, he still has no options but to look for the threat even if he was weaker, " You sure he can't go to a safe dimension or a place or a hideout with his family? He does not have to do it as it's not his responsibility to babysit anyone in the village except for his loved ONES (Sakura and Sarada).

"You are not even remotely smart when it comes to these things." listen here rooty poo I never said I was smart and never would say I am smart over a fictional manga in a serious manner, so you since you brought that point up tell me if your IQ goes near 138, how many A* you have for your A Level AND if you speak 3 languages fluently as well as finished secondary school with great results and 0 revision.

"In the movie, it's been confirmed Sasuke is equal to the henchman of the main enemy. Meaning he cannot keep up with the main villain. " who said the henchman of the main villain isn't stronger or very close to strength to the main villain himself?
I didn't know you saw the movie so early.

You can't say he only used the term for Naruto without proof. That is far fetched. So who did he use it for Einstein?

"You can try again but you'll only fail and I'm fasting meaning I'm immensely hungry so don't expect me to bother again" Translated to ----> You can destroy my invalid counter arguments and destroy anything I bring to the table so I am just going to say I am hungry and I won't bother again... dodging skills better than Mayweather's.
You may not have said it in a while but your personality is the same and most likely your thoughts are the same as well. Not a fanboy, just a true hater for the win.

Go into a safe dimension? Do you not even know your fave? As the second main character he has the obligation to protect everyone with his life. You have no reading comprehension like I stated.

I don't want to turn this into a real life flex but yes, I do get great grades and I remember you stating you were 13 not too long ago. So the liar characteristic has been established either way. But let's not get too personal, here.

It seems he works for him, and bar Battle Of Gods, henchmen are usually much weaker. It's an assumption but less than any you've been making today.

He used the term for himself and everyone else, not just Naruto and the kage. LOL! Him saying he is scarier obviously means he is scared of his powers, too. Unless you wanna make a huge assumption.

And no, wrong again as I've destroyed the post while not even eating in 18 hours.

I know you won't concede though as you truly think your posts are good arguments. Makes sense how you made such a horrible thread.

CONCLUSION: Your thread was nothing but assumptions but you stated they were manga facts, am I wrong?

I get to eat at 9:05 pm which is in 23 minutes so you don't get that long to fail again.
 
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Neither Naruto nor Sasuke are still capable of beating Kaguya alone. Sasuke's mission is simply espionage, to gather intel, not to take on the being by himself in combat. If you think that he's on par with Kaguya just because he can travel through dimensions, then you're not analyzing what he said properly. He uses his S/T a couple times and his chakra is done, reverting him to a helpless target. He doesn't have enough chakra to take on Kaguya by himself.
Naruto alone almost knocked the Tailed Beast out of her. People are comparing the War Arc Naruto and Sasuke to Kaguya. The both of them almost took Kaguya in like the first 5 minutes of the fight, before she switched to Ice dimension and realized fighting both of them together is too much.


Naruto might have gotten a little rusty, but I believe he and Naruto are both stronger than they were in the War Arc.

Sasuke even admitting during the whole Kaguya thing he was still getting use to his Rinnegan.

Kaguya is powerful, but she lack battle sense.
 

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You may not have said it in a while but your personality is the same and most likely your thoughts are the same as well. Not a fanboy, just a true hater for the win.

Go into a safe dimension? Do you not even know your fave? As the second main character he has the obligation to protect everyone with his life. You have no reading comprehension like I stated.

I don't want to turn this into a real life flex but yes, I do get great grades and I remember you stating you were 13 not too long ago. So the liar characteristic has been established either way. But let's not get too personal, here.

It seems he works for him, and bar Battle Of Gods, henchmen are usually much weaker. It's an assumption but less than any you've been making today.

He used the term for himself and everyone else, not just Naruto and the kage. LOL! Him saying he is scarier obviously means he is scared of his powers, too. Unless you wanna make a huge assumption.

And no, wrong again as I've destroyed the post while not even eating in 18 hours.

I know you won't concede though as you truly think your posts are good arguments. Makes sense how you made such a horrible thread.

CONCLUSION: Your thread was nothing but assumptions but you stated they were manga facts, am I wrong?

"I don't want to turn this into a real life flex but yes, I do get great grades and I remember you stating you were 13 not too long ago. So the liar characteristic has been established either way. But let's not get too personal, here. " As I can't be bothered to find it you can go look at my older posts from few weeks ago where I have stated I was 11,10 and 12. Also if I am 13 you should be embarrassed to be getting stomped by a 13 year old.

"As the second main character he has the obligation to protect everyone with his life"I want to make the boldest point on this, I know you might be slightly stupid but I don't know what Naruto you have been reading, for 80% Naruto, Sasuke has been most selfish on the planet and where does it say just because you are a main character you have to play hero?

"He used the term for himself and everyone else, not just Naruto and the kage. LOL! Him saying he is scarier obviously means he is scared of his powers, too. Unless you wanna make a huge assumption. " Are you not assuming yourself?



Also didn't you say you were hungry why are you replying? Just because I am a nice 13 year old puppet master with no brain (apparently) I bought some salt for you to eat... oh wait you damn I just realized, your tears have enough salt, lick em off your face.:lmao:
 

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sauce even says in panels it took Both him and naruto to seal kaguya. Like seriously are there that many delulu sauce fans out there? Kaguya is the strongest solo. Even S06P needed another god, hamaru, to seal her.
 

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"I don't want to turn this into a real life flex but yes, I do get great grades and I remember you stating you were 13 not too long ago. So the liar characteristic has been established either way. But let's not get too personal, here. " As I can't be bothered to find it you can go look at my older posts from few weeks ago where I have stated I was 11,10 and 12. Also if I am 13 you should be embarrassed to be getting stomped by a 13 year old.

"As the second main character he has the obligation to protect everyone with his life"I want to make the boldest point on this, I know you might be slightly stupid but I don't know what Naruto you have been reading, for 80% Naruto, Sasuke has been most selfish on the planet and where does it say just because you are a main character you have to play hero?

"He used the term for himself and everyone else, not just Naruto and the kage. LOL! Him saying he is scarier obviously means he is scared of his powers, too. Unless you wanna make a huge assumption. " Are you not assuming yourself?



Also didn't you say you were hungry why are you replying? Just because I am a nice 13 year old puppet master with no brain (apparently) I bought some salt for you to eat... oh wait you damn I just realized, your tears have enough salt, lick em off your face.:lmao:
Again, you've made no actual points and ignored my conclusion.

But I'm not getting stomped so...

Okay, I could have phrased it better but he was even willing to sacrifice his happiness for the world and nothing about his selfless character has changed since then . Take your L.

A logical assumption unlike any of yours but I'm not the one claiming to state manga facts. If one says someone is scary does it mean only relative to others or oneself, especially when said others are in the same tier as you?

I'm replying because I've been entertained.

Answer this question or you take your L: Now that we've all enlightened you, do you blindly believe you've posted any manga facts or were they just assumptions?

Luckily for you I don't have all day.
 
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