Why hasn't this been discussed?

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Is this not more evidence towards the "Shin = Shisui Clone" debate?

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Discuss. Specifally, "This child became Danzo's right arm" and "The color of his chakras in his right shoulder and arm... It's Uchiha Shisui's color!"
 

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Didn't they say that guy is just a former student of Orochimaru's whose DNA can suit with others easily or something?

I feel like Kishimoto would have spoon fed the fact that he is if that's the case.

Also, was it explained how he has MS?

EDIT: The colors in his arm? Damn, it is Shisui! I guess he gives us fans too much credit when in reality everything needs to be spoon fed.
 
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Didn't they say that guy is just a former student of Orochimaru's whose DNA can suit with others easily or something?

I feel like Kishimoto would have spoon fed the fact that he is if that's the case.

Also, was it explained how he has MS?
I definitely never read the first part of what you said. If that's true, someone let me know.

As for MS, never explained.
 

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lol like Naruto and Sasuke didn't say shit about that Shin in that tank! They just straight up watch Orc create his new body!
 

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Is this not more evidence towards the "Shin = Shisui Clone" debate?

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Discuss. Specifally, "This child became Danzo's right arm" and "The color of his chakras in his right shoulder and arm... It's Uchiha Shisui's color!"
Show me the scan referring to the "colors" in danzo's shoulder and arm. I'm pretty sure that at the Kage summit, the only chakra color mentioned was in his eye, which in fact was Shisuis.
 

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I need a viz scan of this brb and wouldn't make sense. shin has blond/white hair as a kid while shisui had black hair. Oro also said shin wasn't actually an uchiha.
 

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Yeah it makes sense. Think about it, the shins have to have some Uchiha genes in them. Everytime they are cloned, each one comes out with a fresh new sharingan, that shouldn't happen unless the original had a sharingan also.
 

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These two scans explain who Shin is:
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Right. So he is a "universal donor" and a "universal receiver" but that doesn't necessarily mean that his chakras change to suit any host.

If he changed chakras when transplanted to a new host, Danzo's arm would be made of Danzo's chakra. But it's not, it's Shisui's chakra, which means Shin was made of Shisui's DNA.

Even "real" human transplants don't change chakra. Shisui's eye didn't become Danzo's eye after transplanted, even a decade later it is still very clearly Shisui's eye, the same with this arm.

I need a viz scan of this brb and wouldn't make sense. shin has blond/white hair as a kid while shisui had black hair. Oro also said shin wasn't actually an uchiha.
Please do. I haven't yet purchased every volume, or else I would have posted scans from my own camera of the VIZ.
 
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It looks like Kishimoto just retconned Danzo's arm being Shisui's.


Right. So he is a "universal donor" and a "universal receiver" but that doesn't necessarily mean that his chakras change to suit any host.

If he changed chakras when transplanted to a new host, Danzo's arm would be made of Danzo's chakra. But it's not, it's Shisui's chakra, which means Shin was made of Shisui's DNA.
When the other Shin clones tried to get rid of Shin he said he was the original. Meaning he's not a clone of anyone.

Not VIZ but it probably still has the same meaning:

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It looks like Kishimoto just retconned Danzo's arm being Shisui's.



When the other Shin clones tried to get rid of Shin he said he was the original. Meaning he's not a clone of anyone.
The original clone, meaning the first Orochimaru made. Every other shin was cloned from Shin Sr.

Shin Sr. is a version 1 clone, Shin Jr. are all version 2 clones.

Plus, even if Danzo's arm was taken from a version 2 shin jr. clone, it would still be exactly identical genetically to the original, which would still mean it's Shisui, as Ao stated.
 

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The original clone, meaning the first Orochimaru made. Every other shin was cloned from Shin Sr.

Shin Sr. is a version 1 clone, Shin Jr. are all version 2 clones.
True. I don't think Kishimoto would leave that out but let me think:

-Shin has a liking for Itachi

-Shin is the original owner of Danzo's arm

-Danzo's arm has Shisui's chakra as a match (Meaning Shin's chakra is the same)

-Shin looks like Shisui except that he's bald but that could be because he wants eyeballs in his head.

-Shin has a slightly similar MS design to Shisui.

It's almost certainly Shisui's clone. Great Find!

Maybe Kishi realized he didn't have enough time and pulled his infamous move of skipping things again?
 
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True. I don't think Kishimoto would leave that out but let me think:

-Shin has a liking for Itachi

-Shin is the original owner of Danzo's arm

-Danzo's arm has Shisui's chakra as a match (Meaning Shin's chakra is the same)

-Shin looks like Shisui except that he's bald but that could be because he wants eyeballs in his head.

-Shin has a slightly similar MS design to Shisui.

It's almost certainly Shisui's clone. Great Find!

Maybe Kishi realized he didn't have enough time and pulled his infamous move of skipping things again?
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Just saying. :lol
 

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Please do. I haven't yet purchased every volume, or else I would have posted scans from my own camera of the VIZ.
Well, It can't be right because iirc shisui had both arms when he talked to itachi and the chances of shisui being brought back as a edo tensei would be significantly higher or would've been mentioned by kabuto.
 

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Well, It can't be right because iirc shisui had both arms when he talked to itachi and the chances of shisui being brought back as a edo tensei would be significantly higher or would've been mentioned by kabuto.
Well yeah, but Orochimaru didn't need the whole arm, just a portion of DNA, and he never really seemed to care about DNA for his Edo Tensei collection except for the previous Hokage. He wasn't as big of a collector as Kabuto, as Kabuto stated he had to collect every single shinobi that he brought back himself, which means Orochimaru had no part in the collection.

And judging by Kabuto's interactions with the Shins, it seems he didn't have any interest or knowledge of them previously.
 
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