[Discussion] Zoro and Luffy

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Have changed boats. I wouldn't say equal, however very close. Unlike many others, Zoro have actual massive feats like chopping up a mountain multiple times, which indicates that with his full strength he will be able to rival G4. With current feats, its a mid diff no doubt however Asura can very possibly push this up to high+.
 

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It's funny how it's usually the Zoro fanboys who care about the power-scaling of the M3 so much. Anyways, get over it, Zoro is weaker than Luffy and always will be.
 

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Zoro is weaker than Luffy, simple as that. By current feats, Luffy could mid diff him, but i expect all out Zoro could push him to high diff if not more. Not sure though. We'd see soon enough(probably by the Wano arc)
 

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Well guess what? Nami,robin,sanji,franky,luffy and chpper didn't go all out, why not add them there?and don't go there, do even go there bro. Zoro doesn't even have half of the durability doffy had...........

luffy is stronger than law and luffy, why are you comparing to him, but oh wait let's excuse zoro by saying "he didn't go all out " and just forget the others :lmfao you're the biggest hypocrite I've seen since months

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A proof is needed. otherwise this is bullshit.

Sanji is yet to lose to anyone in the new except for dofflamingo. And actually the loss ratio is about the same when it comes to those 4

lolololololololoolol hypcrite. I'm saving this as my sig btw.

The only thing hinted in the series was that they're close in power but you're clearly so blind you're excusing zoro only.

Feats is what makes people judge, now decide by which one you want to go, feats or portrayal.(it's not like you know shit about either though)


Gear 4 isn't even needed for luffy to win if we go by feats. That's how big the power gab is. Sanji was always portrayed to be equal to zoro in terms of skill and strengh and even overall usefulness, and law and from we've seen from law and luffy vs diffy was shown to be equal to luffy in overall fighting skill, now stop being a little hypocrite and start reading the damn manga.




ps: I don't understand why zoro fans in NB are like this, His fans in orojackson,OPB and even ****ing youtube are much better when you compare them to NB....
You pointed out lot of things but I don't agree with any answers you gave, but I wil stick with the one which say Sanji and Zoro are equal on strength and that he at the same level of willpower as Zoro...

I don't get why you say Sanji is on the same level as Zoro, bt you can Say Luffy is stronger than Zoro, I really want to know what you mean exactly by that, I will start from the beginning of the series to showcase that Zoro is stronger.

1.Sanji lost to Don Krieg second hand man, which I dought Zoro would have....2. Sanji was blasted by Enel lighting he dint even take the second attack, only one attack he was down, and Zoro toke 3 attacks, Enel needed to up his volts to down Zoro...3. During thriller bark the one who stood up to Kuma was Zoro while sanji become second best to it, Zoro fought a little and Sanji was done with only one kick which he hurt his leg....4. Doflamingo practically did quick work with Sanji, which I believe Zoro would have put on a fight....5. Zoro was trained by the strongest Swordman alive, and Sanji by Ivankov who isn't even half stronger than Mihawk.....6. Zoro has nevr been wounded since the beginning of the New world and sanji has in 2 occassions now.


To top it up, Luffy and Zoro are on level in strength, to proof it a little Zoro has eventually scared off an opponents who almost killed Luffy which is Monet, and in 2 mini arcs, Zoro fought luffy, the first was when they meet Vivi, and they where level on strength, the second was when Zoro was controlled and Luffy was shown been beat up, and in this arc it also showed the different in strength for Zoro and Sanji as Zoro practically toke a kick from Sanji like it was nothing, even sanji was statled by this.
 

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They are about same level...

Technically, Zoro should be bit ahead Luffy because swords are Luffy's weakness and at Zoro's level, it's highly possible. But Luffy IMHO gets the edge because of his superhuman speed...

P.S. G4 Luffy's clearly ahead...
 

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They are about same level...

Technically, Zoro should be bit ahead Luffy because swords are Luffy's weakness and at Zoro's level, it's highly possible. But Luffy IMHO gets the edge because of his superhuman speed...

P.S. G4 Luffy's clearly ahead...
Swords are Luffy's weakness ? Is he allergic to them ?

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Luffy would curbstomp Zoro in G4 and beats him with difficulty on other gears. People going on about feats of cutting mountains probably forgot how a casual Luffy dealt with Pica too or smashed a boat which was half the size of an island. So in terms of size matters, Luffy has Zoro beat too. Luffy's haki game is better developed as well, and he is obviously faster.

Anyone who says they're equal has been reading a different manga.
 

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You pointed out lot of things but I don't agree with any answers you gave, but I wil stick with the one which say Sanji and Zoro are equal on strength and that he at the same level of willpower as Zoro...
Actually by feats zoro is currently better, however zoro and sanji were always portrayed to be at same level in overall strength .
I don't get why you say Sanji is on the same level as Zoro
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It's because they're always portrayed to be at the same level. For example,at arlong park, both zoro and sanji defeated their enemies at the same exact time. And I know that zoro was badly injured but kurrobi was way stronger than hachi no matter how you look at it. In enies lobby the power difference between kaku and jabra was only 20 dorki............there's also the fact that both of them has one shotted a pacifista like luffy, sanji broke its neck which would have killed it anyway, and zoro had cut through it which would have also killed it.

, bt you can Say Luffy is stronger than Zoro, I really want to know what you mean exactly by that, I will start from the beginning of the series to showcase that Zoro is stronger.
Your selective reading is really outstanding, you ignore the conditions before the fight and the special circumstances for every fight just to show that zoro is superior
1.Sanji lost to Don Krieg second hand man, which I dought Zoro would have
hmm nope, what manga were you watching? Gin was a high tire back in eaast blue, he could easily keep up with sanji's kicks that even a fishman like kuroobi couldn't, at the very end, it ended with a tie.

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2. Sanji was blasted by Enel lighting he dint even take the second attack, only one attack he was down, and Zoro toke 3 attacks, Enel needed to up his volts to down Zoro...
3. During thriller bark the one who stood up to Kuma was Zoro while sanji become second best to it, Zoro fought a little and Sanji was done with only one kick which he hurt his leg....
That's because Kuma attacked everyone with the air pressure blast instead of zoro, and sanji still stood up despite that.
4. Doflamingo practically did quick work with Sanji, which I believe Zoro would have put on a fight....
Not really, luffy was low diff'd at beginning when he attacked doffy alone, and law was mid diff'd and that was only due his knowledge on doffy's abilites. Now if you're saying that zoro is stronger than those brave men then you need to check you eyes.

5. Zoro was trained by the strongest Swordman alive, and Sanji by Ivankov who isn't even half stronger than Mihawk.....
That changes nothing, invankov was in fight with akainu and he came out of it without even one scratch. He also shitstomped kuma......who was shichibukai.............there's also the fact that he escaped mallagns poison, dude is a monster.
. Zoro has nevr been wounded since the beginning of the New world and sanji has in 2 occassions now.
That's stupid reasoning right there. Nami is yet to be injured in the new world does that mean that she's a s strong as zoro?more importantly, both law and luffy and the majority of people in dersson were injuried would that mean that zoro is stronger than the likes of doffy???? Sanji ended up fighting opponents who were stronger than those who zoro fought in the new world
Vergo>pica
doffy>monet
To top it up, Luffy and Zoro are on level in strength, to proof it a little Zoro has eventually scared off an opponents who almost killed Luffy which is Monet
that so stupid, Sanji was able
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and in 2 mini arcs, Zoro fought luffy, the first was when they meet Vivi, and they where level on strength
comic relief , was seen at the end when they both started hitting each other like kids. And if you want to count that then you might want to count these
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the second was when Zoro was controlled and Luffy was shown been beat up, and in this arc it also showed the different in strength for Zoro and Sanji as Zoro practically toke a kick from Sanji like it was nothing, even sanji was statled by this.
That was filler boi........

They are about same level...

Technically, Zoro should be bit ahead Luffy because swords are Luffy's weakness and at Zoro's level, it's highly possible. But Luffy IMHO gets the edge because of his superhuman speed...

P.S. G4 Luffy's clearly ahead...
Thanks for the new sig bruh.///
 
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It's funny how it's usually the Zoro fanboys who care about the power-scaling of the M3 so much. Anyways, get over it, Zoro is weaker than Luffy and always will be.
You make it sound like zoro is far behind luffy. Every opponent zoro has been against he beat easily while luffy lost to ceaser. They are equal in strength and its always been like that except for a few moments. In the beginning of the series it was shown clearly that zoro was stronger than luffy. He could of beaten arlong and don krieg far easier than luffy. luffy lost to croc 2 times before he beat him and if zoro had a way to hit him im sure he could of beat him at that time they were at the same strength and luffy surpassed him when he went g2. But it wasn't for long zoro taking in luffy pains shown how much more punishment he could take and even the scaled. luffy had speed and power while zoro had durability and power. still his speed can not be down played he completely blitzed kuma. since then luffy and zoro have been equal. after the timeskip they are till equal even tho luffy has shown greater feats so far until we see zoro go all out we cant make a fair judgement. oda will never make zoro stonger than luffy but on equal to him.
 

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There is a reason why Luffy beats the strongest villain,Zoro the second strongest and Sanji the third strongest.Oda is throwing u the fact that it's Luffy>Zoro>Sanji.
 
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