6 tails Naruto vs Hokages

[Brother Numpsay]

Smh.

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THAT is the size of the air cannon compared to Madara's shield. That's not focused. If EE's energy was all focused on the shield, you wouldn't see the air cannon going past him, dwarfing said shield.




That's irrelevant.

I was thought you were referring to the attack priorities, which you already stated not relevant.

On Madara's body. Not the Gudo Dama. Minato even told Gai not to touch them. Hirudora was obliterated by Madara swinging his staff, despite the fact that Hirudora is stronger than the impact of him swinging his staff.

@Bold, not sure what you mean.

Addressed.

Not really.

Smh. Why don't you read the Manga? What the hell are you even talking about here? Bold is not relevant.

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One Gudo Dama is being shot forward and changed into a shield. Not to mention that shield is smaller than the below shield.

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You can see more than one Gudo Dama coming together to form this shield, which is also much bigger.

So this SM Rasengan business is irrelevant.

The Bold is relevant if you knew which scenario I was talking about. Im talking about the 9 small Odama's breaking through Obito's strongest Gudo Shield.

Wow. You can't be serious. He is STILL referring to the Gudo Dama here. Hence the term "solid". Manga outright shows him tanking the explosion with his Gudo Dama. There is no translation you can bring that'll invalidate the pictures Kishimoto draws.

Solid can mean his durability. You cant refer Gudo as a "He". What you can refer it to is an "attack". Those are two different sentences talks about two different things.

Or are you going to claim that the Gudo Dama were there for show and that Obito tanked the explosion with his body? Cause that'd only make your argument even worse than it already is.

Im going back to my orignal interpretation. Obito took some of the blast and shield the rest.

Cause then you'd have to admit that Obito can tank that despite him being able to be hurt by a Rasengan. And no, he did not have Onmyodon then. So don't mention negation. None of this changes the fact that you have no argument besides the "disintegrate the attack" BS that has no basis whatsoever.

This goes back to not using ABC logic to determine if the attack is superior to the other base on the effects of both Juubito and Gudo.

 

[KidGamer65]

I was thought you were referring to the attack priorities, which you already stated not relevant.

That too. I already mentioned that before.

@Bold, not sure what you mean.

Minato straight up told Gai that only Senjutsu or Taijutsu works on Madara. He said that he can only be hurt by those things, thus he was referring to his body. Then he told him not to touch the Gudo Dama, so no. Taijutsu won't work on them. That's why they needed to get rid of them before Gai could hit Madara.

The Bold is relevant if you knew which scenario I was talking about. Im talking about the 9 small Odama's breaking through Obito's strongest Gudo Shield.

You mean the small 9 Oodama Rasengan that were powered by Naruto's cloak on steroids? You know what's funny? The damage it did was damage NOWHERE NEAR what the Bijuu Sized Rasengan or Bijuu Dama did.

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Tiny ass hole made in his shield so that PS could bust through.

-Minato's Senjutsu Rasengan obliterated the small Gudo Dama shield.

-Naruto's Bijuu Dama blew a gaping hole in Obito's shield, which was made of all his Gudo Dama.

Solid can mean his durability. You cant refer Gudo as a "He". What you can refer it to is an "attack". Those are two different sentences talks about two different things.

Hiruzen's wording is irrelevant when we SEE HIM BLOCK THEM WITH THE GUDO DAMA. Smh. Quit grasping at straws. The fact that you are trying to use words to disprove WHAT WE SEE IN THE MANGA only shows me how pathetic your argument really is at the end of the day. You keep switching it up over and over again just to avoid conceding that Gojo is nowhere near as strong as you thought.

Im going back to my orignal interpretation. Obito took some of the blast and shield the rest.

Which has no evidence for it. You can't have it both ways. That just shows how pathetic your attempts are. Hiruzen said he's solid. If you want to ignore pictorial evidence in favor of Hiruzen's wording, then you'd have to say that Hiruzen said that Juubito is solid, and that he implied that Juubito tanked.

Why in the hell would he even call Juubito swift if his defense wasn't fast enough to block the attack completely? Smh. Literally make no sense.

This goes back to not using ABC logic to determine if the attack is superior to the other base on the effects of both Juubito and Gudo.

Something you deny is impossible, but literally can't provide any real reason as to why it is impossible. Especially when it comes to Juubito's body. All your points have been about Gudo Dama. You only mentioned Enton RS for Juubito's body, which is NINJUTSU. So it's NEGATED. Ninjutsu can't hurt the Jin. But Obito didn't have Onmyodon back when he was mindless, so by saying he tanked Gojo with his body, you are saying that it's weaker than Rasengan and every other attack that has hurt a Juubi Jin before.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Ej give up son post 75 should have ended this for you.​

Hiruzen and Enma would wreck by themselves... lol

Not a chance in hell.​

 

[KingHashirama]

Not a chance in hell.​

Was able to push back full Kurama with Enma..... but is gonna have hard time wrecking 6-tails Naruto? lol what?


Do tell me how Enma and Hiruzen don't wreck. Any of his mini-tbbs are dodged... he attempts to attack him physically enma wrecks. Hiruzen can then proceed to do w.e Jinchuriki seals he knows.


Hes not touching Minato or Tobirama or Hashirama or Hiruzen.. hes gonna be touching Tsunade due to her needing to fight him with her fists.. and even then hes getting tossed around.


The first 4 Hokage knows the seals for the bijuus and jinchurikis so hes pretty much gonna be negated real quick. Tsunade probably does also due to all those scrolls and having the need to know the seals and etc.. so she might put him down pretty quick.

He needs KCM+ to take on any of the Hokage and stand a chance. Unless this Naruto has all of Kurama's chakra avalaible to him , but just the formation is limited to the 6-tails.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Cut off quotes I concede to.

You mean the small 9 Oodama Rasengan that were powered by Naruto's cloak on steroids? You know what's funny? The damage it did was damage NOWHERE NEAR what the Bijuu Sized Rasengan or Bijuu Dama did.

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Tiny ass hole made in his shield so that PS could bust through.

-Minato's Senjutsu Rasengan obliterated the small Gudo Dama shield.

-Naruto's Bijuu Dama blew a gaping hole in Obito's shield, which was made of all his Gudo Dama..

How did you come to that conclusion is weird. The whole shield was finished, but the focused area had enough room for Kurama to hit his whole arm in.

- Like you said previously, that was 1 Gudo. And manga showed only signs of cracks and pushed them away. Last panel Obito still has all his orbs so nothing was obliterated[

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- Naruto was in support of Susanoo arrow. Hell it makes more sense that Sasuke attack was the "nail" to Naruto TBB blast.

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[KidGamer65]

Cut off quotes I concede to.



How did you come to that conclusion is weird. The whole shield was finished, but the focused area had enough room for Kurama to hit his whole arm in.

- Like you said previously, that was 1 Gudo. And manga showed only signs of cracks and pushed them away. Last panel Obito still has all his orbs so nothing was obliterated[

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- Naruto was in support of Susanoo arrow. Hell it makes more sense that Sasuke attack was the "nail" to Naruto TBB blast.

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1. No, it wasn't. The shield only had a hole in it as the panel I posted shows.

2. It being only one Gudo Dama doesn't matter. That shows that there is no inconsistency. It being only one Gudo Dama actually helps my argument since stronger shields were used for stronger attacks. So why are you comparing the damage?

3. Already explained before. Completely irrelevant. At best they are both equal, halve that damage and it's still superior to what the 9 Giant Rasengans did.

Then there's the fact that you only assumed that the shield Obito had was his strongest. Why would a shield made out of some of his Gudo Dama be stronger than a shield made out of all of them? (The one he used to block BSM BD and Senjutsu Susanoo Arrow was made of every Gudo Dama) It having a fancy design isn't evidence.

And let's not twist what was really shown. That shield took absolutely no damage.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Was able to push back full Kurama with Enma..... but is gonna have hard time wrecking 6-tails Naruto? lol what?

Do tell me how Enma and Hiruzen don't wreck. Any of his mini-tbbs are dodged... he attempts to attack him physically enma wrecks. Hiruzen can then proceed to do w.e Jinchuriki seals he knows.

Enma pushed full Kurama back.....

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That doesn't mean for a sec it can bypass the 6tails durability. Enma was getting his body wrecked from getting hit with Orochimaru's blade.(

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). while the 4tails was drug through the ground by the same blade.(

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). Then it proceeded to remove the sword with not an once of damage or pain.(

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). 6tails tanks anything Enma can dish out neg difficulty. L0l Mini tbb's are dodge no. Hiruzen has no good speed feats at all. once the 6tails close the distance it fires it's tbb which is huge.(

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). Enma and Hiruzen our cleansed of the map. Don't mention the other Kages now this was about Hiruzen how could solo.​

 

[KingHashirama]

Enma pushed full Kurama back.....

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That doesn't mean for a sec it can bypass the 6tails durability. Enma was getting his body wrecked from getting hit with Orochimaru's blade while the 4tails was drug through the ground by the same blade.(

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)-(

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). Then it proceeded to remove the sword with not an once of damage or pain.(

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). 6tails tanks anything Enma can dish out neg difficulty. L0l Mini tbb's are dodge no. Hiruzen has no good speed feats at all. once the 6tails close the distance if fired it's tbb which is huge.(

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). Enma and Hiruzen our cleansed of the map. Don't mention the other Kages this was about Hiruzen how Hiruzen could solo.​

Your flawed comparison :


Try to atleast compare the right things...


Enma being damaged by the sword only reflects him not being able to tank it like 6-tails Naruto. It does not reflect him not being able to damage 6-tails Naruto. It reflects the fact that Enma can't take the slicing of the sword , while 6-tails can't be pierced by it. Now piercing and blunt force are quite different.

Enma's force of attack is many times superior to Orochimaru's sword. The moment he starts getting hit around like a toy by Enma.. hes gonna be having issues. And then later on, Hiruzen (he should know the seals) can apply some sort of restraint seals to keep him in check and then proceed to further annihilate him.


Not only that Hiruzen can do a combination attack with his clones , while he himself assaulting Naruto. 4 clones from each side follow through with a huge wind jutsu (the sheer cutting prowess of these jutsus is gonna be high) , while main Hiruzen pawns down Naruto.


Hits from this is gonna mess up Naruto for good:

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Speed feats: Was able to come save Naruto out of nowhere while the 2 fastest were having issues getting there. Dw, he ain't gonna have issues dodging Naruto's Tbbs while attacking him.



Reason for mentioning other hokages: Clearly you already seem to know other hokage wreck him, but... reason for mentioning was that Hiruzen is canonically superior to 2 of them.


Hiruzen's main issue = Old Age


And as I said in my other post, he needs KCM+ to take on any of the Hokage and stand a chance. Unless this Naruto has all of Kurama's chakra avalaible to him , but just the formation is limited to the 6-tails.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Your flawed comparison :


Try to atleast compare the right things...


Enma being damaged by the sword only reflects him not being able to tank it like 6-tails Naruto. It does not reflect him not being able to damage 6-tails Naruto. It reflects the fact that Enma can't take the slicing of the sword , while 6-tails can't be pierced by it. Now piercing and blunt force are quite different.

Enma's force of attack is many times superior to Orochimaru's sword. The moment he starts getting hit around like a toy by Enma.. hes gonna be having issues. And then later on, Hiruzen (he should know the seals) can apply some sort of restraint seals to keep him in check and then proceed to further annihilate him.

Did you forget Enma attacks with his body therefore if something is more durable than Enma it's tanking anything he throws. That was a good comparison seeing as it proves that the 6tails is more durable than Enma. 6tails wouldn't have to worry about Speed + Velocity = more power because Hiruzen hasn't shown any good physical strength feats. Let's for a sec here say the 6tails can be killed here for your sake.​

Not only that Hiruzen can do a combination attack with his clones , while he himself assaulting Naruto. 4 clones from each side follow through with a huge wind jutsu (the sheer cutting prowess of these jutsus is gonna be high) , while main Hiruzen pawns down Naruto.

An elemental attack is either roared back or overpowered by a Bijuudama. The 6tails could then send a half bodied self from it's back and proceed to do this.(

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). Which would send Hiruzen and his clones flying.​

Hits from this is gonna mess up Naruto for good:

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Not a chance. Tobirama's water did much better than Hiruzen.(

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). Also so i guess Mifune and these fodders can cut through the 6tails huh?.(

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). 6tails survived it's own TBB not only that it survive the crushing force of a CT.(

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). Face it Hiruzen doesn't have the offence suggesting he can bypass the 6tails durability.​

Speed feats: Was able to come save Naruto out of nowhere while the 2 fastest were having issues getting there.

IRRELEVANT who's to say Hiruzen was already nearby?​

Reason for mentioning other hokages: Clearly you already seem to know other hokage wreck him, but... reason for mentioning was that Hiruzen is canonically superior to 2 of them.


Hiruzen's main issue = Old Age

Tsunade gets wrecked and so does Tobirama Minato only wins via seals.​

And as I said in my other post, he needs KCM+ to take on any of the Hokage and stand a chance. Unless this Naruto has all of Kurama's chakra avalaible to him , but just the formation is limited to the 6-tails.

No he doesn't stop with the non-sense.​