Minato vs Deidara

[Rιver]

Whenever they had the slightest chance to scratch him then we can talk.
Getting out of C3's range is child's play for someone as fast as Minato.
C4 will get sensed & dodged.

Now comes the fun part.

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[Worm]

Whenever they had the slightest chance to scratch him then we can talk.

I can play this game, too. Whenever he has the slightest chance of rocking them out of the sky + breaking through Sasori's additional defenses while doing so then we can talk.

Getting out of C3's range is child's play for someone as fast as Minato.

1. Assuming Deidara uses No. 18 which is the doll he used against Gaara instead of use an underground shaped C3 clay bomb or a sneak attack one that Minato won't notice without directly sensing for it. Deidara re-formats his style of fighting depending on the opponent's abilities and the battle enviroment. He isn't merely idiotic enough to casually drop a bomb out in the open and just let it casually drop down visibly on someone that could dodge his shit.

C4 will gets sensed & dodged.

I have two problems with this. First of all, he's gonna need to change into his sensory chakra and then sensing which isn't an option with Sasori's barrage that he'd need to move around in order to be able to dodge it. Sensing Deidara's chakra sphere doesn't translate into it being something that you shouldn't breathe in and get immediately away from. In fact, Sasuke thinks it's a dud until he sees Deidara making a lunatic face. Sasori should be smart enough to not let Deidara do that. Sasuke didn't panic to get away from it neither did he hold his breath in and only in the second time when he could see that C4's chakra sphere are actually nano bombs that enter the body. He noticed the bombs only in the second time after he already breathed them in.

The whole idea to actually get away from it's radius in the first time is seeing Deidara flying above it and him making a lunatic face, this can be countered by Sasori flying inside the sphere since he won't be affected by the bombs and Minato will assume that being in the sphere doesn't actually harm you.

 

[LuckyMan]

FTG barrier sends C4 away.

 

[Worm]

FTG barrier sends C4 away.

Doesn't counter what I said neither is it a 360° barrier that would be able to do that in C4's radius.

 

[LuckyMan]

Doesn't counter what I said neither is it a 360° barrier that would be able to do that in C4's radius.

The Radius of C4 is in a sphere, like the Jubidama was, and Minato barrier got rid of it no difficulty. Plus Minato can make 2 clones, they all stand in a triangular formation facing opposite ways and cast the barrier, effectively sucking it all in.

 

[Rιver]

The Radius of C4 is in a sphere, like the Jubidama was, and Minato barrier got rid of it no difficulty. Plus Minato can make 2 clones, they all stand in a triangular formation facing opposite ways and cast the barrier, effectively sucking it all in.

...I like Minato for his skills, but what is this lol.

 

[Great Master Minato]

I can play this game, too. Whenever he has the slightest chance of rocking them out of the sky + breaking through Sasori's additional defenses while doing so then we can talk.

Assuming Deidara can take off before getting blitzed or if he goes airborne Minato can follow him by tossing some Kunais in the air.
The problem is getting close to Minato means certain death for both of them.
What additional defenses?

1. Assuming Deidara uses No. 18 which is the doll he used against Gaara instead of use an underground shaped C3 clay bomb or a sneak attack one that Minato won't notice without directly sensing for it. Deidara re-formats his style of fighting depending on the opponent's abilities and the battle enviroment. He isn't merely idiotic enough to casually drop a bomb out in the open and just let it casually drop down visibly on someone that could dodge his shit.

How the hell he's gonna put a huge bomb underground when Minato's eyes follow his every move? He won't be able to caught Minato off his guard.
Besides Deidara can't use huge explosions if he don't want to kill his teammate in the process.

I have two problems with this. First of all, he's gonna need to change into his sensory chakra and then sensing which isn't an option with Sasori's barrage that he'd need to move around in order to be able to dodge it. Sensing Deidara's chakra sphere doesn't translate into it being something that you shouldn't breathe in and get immediately away from. In fact, Sasuke thinks it's a dud until he sees Deidara making a lunatic face. Sasori should be smart enough to not let Deidara do that. Sasuke didn't panic to get away from it neither did he hold his breath in and only in the second time when he could see that C4's chakra sphere are actually nano bombs that enter the body. He noticed the bombs only in the second time after he already breathed them in.
The whole idea to actually get away from it's radius in the first time is seeing Deidara flying above it and him making a lunatic face, this can be countered by Sasori flying inside the sphere since he won't be affected by the bombs and Minato will assume that being in the sphere doesn't actually harm you.

Do you have any evidence that Minato needs to stay still in order to sense something? We know he needs to change his Chakra to sensory type & that's it.
The moment Minato senses the nano bomb he'll get out of range & how Deidara is gonna stop Sasori from getting killed in the process?

 

[Worm]

The Radius of C4 is in a sphere, like the Jubidama was, and Minato barrier got rid of it no difficulty. Plus Minato can make 2 clones, they all stand in a triangular formation facing opposite ways and cast the barrier, effectively sucking it all in.

The radius of C4 is a smoke screen that looks like a chakra sphere to Sharingan. It is not an actual sphere. They're millions of little bombs flying everywhere and are not actually connected together like the Juubidama is. Juubidama is one sphere, one shapes. C4 is millions of shapes, i.e. little bombs. Putting up a barrier will only suck up the the bombs that come from that direction. It won't pull in the bombs from all of the other directions like it would do against one single shape such as Juubidama.

 

[Apêx1]

Minato wrecks smh. Don't even see how any of Deidaras attacks even successfully land on Minato, given his FTG versatility, shunshin, and sensing.

Nobody is teleporting out of the c4 radius bruh. Minato needs to activate his sensory chakra to sense, so it won't help him here, nor will it allow him to realise that Deidara is right outside of its range for him to know what's happening (sharingan did). Shunshin will only dodge normal attacks like C1 and C2.

 

[Gold Lightning]

the thought of deidara even getting the chance to pull of c4 against someone who is tiers faster than hebi sasuke is a bit of a joke, but oh well.

 

[Worm]

Assuming Deidara can take off before getting blitzed or if he goes airborne Minato can follow him by tossing some Kunais in the air.
The problem is getting close to Minato means certain death for both of them.
What additional defenses?

Assuming Minato will go for Deidara instead of Sasori first. If anything, Sasori's calm demanour and Deidara calling him Master Sasori would make Sasori the first target instead. Not knowing about the heart and puppet body will cost him his blitz. Though, if he aims for Deidara, due to knowing his nickname and all, Deidara can put up a smokescreen by throwing a simple bomb or replacing himself with a Doppleganger like he did when he was escaping Team Gai's attacks while being fully under Byakugan's vision.

Talking about Sasori's Iron Sand.

How the hell he's gonna put a huge bomb underground when Minato's eyes follow his every move? He won't be able to caught Minato off his guard.
Besides Deidara can't use huge explosions if he don't want to kill his teammate in the process.

Um. Massive bombs and Sasori's destructive attacks are what he's gonna be paying attention to. Deidara has shown to distract people by throwing in a false ''attack'' that will allow him to create a smokescreen or have the enemy focus on his first bomb so he could get the second bomb underground or where ever he wants it to be. And this time he has Sasori to cause more destruction and distraction.

Minato can't exactly run away from a village bomb radius, you know? Unless he puts marks around such an area, but he can't do that since he'll be fighting Sasori and Deidara and is allowed no previous preparation, i.e. marking placing.

Also, why would Deidara's bombs affect Sasori? Why would Sasori stay on the ground? Why wouldn't Deidara bring him along in the air or why wouldn't Sasori just step on his own Iron Sand platform?

Do you have any evidence that Minato needs to stay still in order to sense something? We know he needs to change his Chakra to sensory type & that's it.

Have we ever seen him change his Chakra from battle to sensory and run around with Shunshin or use Hiraishin at the same time as having sensory type chakra? I don't remember seeing such a scenario. Every time he used sensory, he was either sitting down with a finger on the floor or was standing still.

The moment Minato senses the nano bomb he'll get out of range & how Deidara is gonna stop Sasori from getting killed in the process?

._. You do know Sasori is a puppet and doesn't breathe, right?

 

[KidGamer65]

Minato whoops his ass in both scenarios.

 

[Great Master Minato]

Assuming Minato will go for Deidara instead of Sasori first. If anything, Sasori's calm demanour and Deidara calling him Master Sasori would make Sasori the first target instead. Not knowing about the heart and puppet body will cost him his blitz. Though, if he aims for Deidara, due to knowing his nickname and all, Deidara can put up a smokescreen by throwing a simple bomb or replacing himself with a Doppleganger like he did when he was escaping Team Gai's attacks while being fully under Byakugan's vision.

Talking about Sasori's Iron Sand.

What stopping Minato from creating a clone & going for both at the same time?
Deidara is not gonna fooling Minato with smoke & a clone, once he realize it was a clay clone he'll throw a Kunai in the air & catch Deidara or he can use FCD to bring him down.
Sasori's core won't go unnoticed by Minato, if he takes Sasori down when he comes back Minato will figure out the trick.
Iron Sand is to slow for Minato & if Sasori decides to camp inside Minato can breach his defense with Bunta's help.

Um. Massive bombs and Sasori's destructive attacks are what he's gonna be paying attention to. Deidara has shown to distract people by throwing in a false ''attack'' that will allow him to create a smokescreen or have the enemy focus on his first bomb so he could get the second bomb underground or where ever he wants it to be. And this time he has Sasori to cause more destruction and distraction.

Minato can't exactly run away from a village bomb radius, you know? Unless he puts marks around such an area, but he can't do that since he'll be fighting Sasori and Deidara and is allowed no previous preparation, i.e. marking placing.

Also, why would Deidara's bombs affect Sasori? Why would Sasori stay on the ground? Why wouldn't Deidara bring him along in the air or why wouldn't Sasori just step on his own Iron Sand platform?

Minato can dance around anything besides C3 & C4.
The problem is their attacks are to slow to cause Minato any trouble, he can get out of C1 & C2's range with ease.

But he Shunshin'ed across Konoha during Kyuubi's incident didn't he? Also covering mountain range distances isn't so hard as Hashirama was able to escape from a Bijuu Dama on foot & he's not anywhere near Minato in speed.

Minato won't stay on the ground the whole time, he can go airborne by spamming FTG Kunai's & bring them down with Bunta's help once he gets close to them.

Have we ever seen him change his Chakra from battle to sensory and run around with Shunshin or use Hiraishin at the same time as having sensory type chakra? I don't remember seeing such a scenario. Every time he used sensory, he was either sitting down with a finger on the floor or was standing still.

Once his Chakra type changes to sensory type he doesn't need to constantly change it, it remains in sensor type until he decides to change it back.
He can change his Chakra type to sensory at the start of the battle & maintain it as long as he wants, he changes his Chakra type by his will.

._. You do know Sasori is a puppet and doesn't breathe, right?

Never said Sasori is gonna inhale the bombs, the way you describes it Deidara is gonna carry Sasori around in order to keep him safe from explosions & this will make Minato's work easier since he can take them out at the same time or if Sasori don't follow Deidara around he takes the risk to get in the range of explosions.

 

[Haizaki]

C4= Non factor unless Deidara wants to die a bad death.

- Minato has summonings like Bunta capable of jumping high enough(Seen the in the same scan I'm going to show) and spitting this out towards Deidara

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while we know the ridiculous prep of C4 with the fact that Deidara WHO IS NOT A SENSOR doesn't look at his opponents :

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Lol he even closes his eyes as well. Not to mention even with such jumping prowess, I don't know why Minato who stands on top its head can use that opportunity to throw a kunai at Deidara. Oh and I see people love using the one he tried to use against Onoki, now unless you can prove to me the range that very version covers or you can tell me how it works, then I don't think we should even bring that up.

 

[DrProof]

Kakuzu solos both tho.

 

[solorflare99]

Kakuzu solos both tho.

Nah man Minato will get past his diamond skin using his......um using rasengan?
Hmm seems to be a case of a lower tier character beating a higher one. Kakuzu can't touch minato but in a battle to the death I suppose Kakuzu would outlast.

 

[Apêx1]

Nah man Minato will get past his diamond skin using his......um using rasengan?
Hmm seems to be a case of a lower tier character beating a higher one. Kakuzu can't touch minato but in a battle to the death I suppose Kakuzu would outlast.

He was joking smh

 

[solorflare99]

He was joking smh

How does Minato get past his diamond skin?

 

[Great Master Minato]

^ Not sure if you're trolling but Kakuzu won't be able to activate Domu in time.

 

[Apêx1]

How does Minato get past his diamond skin?

BRUH.... I said he was joking, he was not being serious, aka he doesn't actually think what he wrote smh. Him getting past it is irrelevant