6 tails Naruto vs Hokages

[KidGamer65]

I read yall arguments. I disagree with both of yall trying to state which move is superior: "Juubi chakra arms or Juubidama". Both have feats that could and couldn't accomplished.

The reason I was agreeing with Lucky in the first place because he brought valid points that

1. You cant compare Madara breaking out of Gates, being the same as Juubito.

Madara had destroyed 1 small Gate made from Base Hashirama, while Juubito had Juubi's power focused (which took out multiple Gates in SM). Those gates were able to withstand the shockwave from Juubidama, from all four corners of a barrier.

No one is arguing superiority here. Its obviously a Juubidama. But by the feats Goju has presented theres no way anyone can argue any character, that isn't Juubi level durability, can take on this blast.

The wank is so real with this statement.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

The wank is so real with this statement.

Call it what you want. Im basing it on the feats it display. And you caught the un edited verison

 

[TRE MERCER]

Call it what you want. Im basing it on the feats it display.

No your not? Gojo couldn't even touch Juubi Jin Obito's TSB's and remember this was before they became Ninjutsu negating.​

I read yall arguments. I disagree with both of yall trying to state which move is superior: "Juubi chakra arms or Juubidama". Both have feats that could and couldn't accomplished.

The reason I was agreeing with Lucky in the first place because he brought valid points that

1. You cant compare Madara breaking out of Gates, being the same as Juubito.

You agree with Lucky because he's trying to overrate Goju which is something you tried to do in the past so bye.​

Madara had destroyed 1 small Gate made from Base Hashirama, while Juubito had Juubi's power focused (which took out multiple Gates in SM). Those gates were able to withstand the shockwave from Juubidama, from all four corners of a barrier.

Actually it was more than 1 it was 3.(

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). I already killed that tanking a Juubidama argument. Focused or not there on two different caliber. Nukite is focus and a Ps blade cuts aren't does that mean that mean Nukite > Ps blades in terms of piercing force absolutely not.​

 

[KidGamer65]

Call it what you want. Im basing it on the feats it display. And you caught the un edited verison

No your not? Gojo couldn't even touch Juubi Jin Obito's TSB's and remember this was before they became Ninjutsu negating.​

The edited version doesn't make things any better. Lmao. Obito was smack dab in the middle.

 

[ultraChalk]

No way in hell 6 tails Naruto is taking this. If Sage mode isn't available Naruto has no sensing capabilities, and it requires either sharingan or sensing abilities to battle FTG users. The clones just add insult to injury.

Kages win.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

No your not? Gojo couldn't even touch Juubi Jin Obito's TSB's and remember this was before they became Ninjutsu negating.​

TSB could always neglect Ninjutsu. What it couldnt do (mindless) was cancel/erase it from existence. I dont even know how this is relevant to begin with.

The edited version doesn't make things any better. Lmao. Obito was smack dab in the middle.

Ok how does this invalidate my point?

 

[KidGamer65]

TSB could always neglect Ninjutsu. What it couldnt do (mindless) was cancel/erase it from existence. I dont even know how this is relevant to begin with.



Ok how does this invalidate my point?

Smh. Please read the Manga. It'll save us all a lot of time.

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[Brother Numpsay]

Smh. Please read the Manga. It'll save us all a lot of time.

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Your showing me scans I am aware of.

Onmyoudon is the ability to erase ninjutsu. You can use this ability from using Gudo's.

Gudo can still eat through ninjutsu like Edo Tensei and Susanoo. Same apply's to Tobirama's Gojo.

 

[KidGamer65]

Your showing me scans I am aware of.

Onmyoudon is the ability to erase ninjutsu. You can use this ability from using Gudo's.

Gudo can still eat through ninjutsu like Edo Tensei and Susanoo. Same apply's to Tobirama's Gojo.

Smh. I literally just posted two scans that explain and counter your whole point, yet you are still replying with the same BS. Allow me to read the Manga to you.

1. Tobirama says that Obito is using Onmyodon.
2. Tobirama says that Onmyodon is the reason why Minato's arm won't regenerate even if he is Edo Tensei.
3. Obito hit Hiruzen before.
4. Yet Hiruzen regenerated.

Do the math. Obito didn't have Onmyodon before gaining control of the Juubi.

TSB could always neglect Ninjutsu. What it couldnt do (mindless) was cancel/erase it from existence. I dont even know how this is relevant to begin with.

Not sure what you are talking about with the bold, when negating Ninjutsu and canceling/erasing it from existence are the same damn thing. Gudo Dama only had one ability before Obito got control, and that was the ability to disintegrate things just like Jinton can. After he got control, he could negate Ninjutsu.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Smh. I literally just posted two scans that explain and counter your whole point, yet you are still replying with the same BS. Allow me to read the Manga to you.

1. Tobirama says that Obito is using Onmyodon.
2. Tobirama says that Onmyodon is the reason why Minato's arm won't regenerate even if he is Edo Tensei.
3. Obito hit Hiruzen before.
4. Yet Hiruzen regenerated.

Do the math. Obito didn't have Onmyodon before gaining control of the Juubi.

Then you completely missed my point as I just repeated these reasons as to why my point is supported.

Not sure what you are talking about with the bold, when negating Ninjutsu and canceling/erasing it from existence are the same damn thing. Gudo Dama only had one ability before Obito got control, and that was the ability to disintegrate things just like Jinton can. After he got control, he could negate Ninjutsu.

@Bold is exactly my whole point. Base on the @Bold what is you and Tre trying to invalidate

 

[KidGamer65]

Then you completely missed my point as I just repeated these reasons as to why my point is supported.



@Bold is exactly my whole point. Base on the @Bold what is you and Tre trying to invalidate

Smh....I can't even deal. I've showed you panels, and explained them yet you are still carrying on with the same BS? Gudo Dama being able to disintegrate like Jinton doesn't change the fact that it can't negate Ninjutsu while Mindless Obito is using it, thus if an attack is strong enough, it will break it.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Smh....I can't even deal. I've showed you panels, and explained them yet you are still carrying on with the same BS? Gudo Dama being able to disintegrate like Jinton doesn't change the fact that it can't negate Ninjutsu while Mindless Obito is using it, thus if an attack is strong enough, it will break it.

So even if Goju is being "eaten" on contact?

Even then, how this this invalidate my claim which went along with quote

People need to stop down playing Goju at this point:

- Destroyed the biggest God Gate, which smaller ones can tank Juubidama.

- Forced Juubito to shield himself with Gudo.

All of this is testament of its destructive power.

 

[KidGamer65]

So even if Goju is being "eaten" on contact?

Even how this this invalidate my claim which went along with

No, it's not being "eaten" by anything. Gudo Dama can't turn explosions to dust. Obito tanked it with the Gudo Dama because the attack was too weak to break through, and that leads me to your quote. Gudo Dama tanked BSM Naruto's Bijuu Dama, but they got a hole in them. Gudo Dama tanked Gojo Kibakufuda, but with no damage. That means BSM Bijuu Dama>>Gojo Kibakufuda and that the claim that "any character, that isn't Juubi level durability, can take on this blast" makes zero sense.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

No, it's not being "eaten" by anything. Gudo Dama can't turn explosions to dust. Obito tanked it with the Gudo Dama because the attack was too weak to break through, and that leads me to your quote. Gudo Dama tanked BSM Naruto's Bijuu Dama, but they got a hole in them. Gudo Dama tanked Gojo Kibakufuda, but with no damage. That means BSM Bijuu Dama>>Gojo Kibakufuda and that the claim that "any character, that isn't Juubi level durability, can take on this blast" makes zero sense.

"Energy" or "explosion" can be broken down/decomposed. There's no way to tell that BSM Damage is superior base on their encounter with Gudo because Susanoo arrow also was part of damaging them. Juubito still block Goju with Gudo as in instinct, something of the explosion, you would think doesn't need Gudo for protection, but his own body can withstand eveyr blast it made. But he didnt.

 

[KidGamer65]

"Energy" or "explosion" can be broken down. There's no way to tell that BSM Damage is superior base on their encounter with Gudo because Susanoo arrow also was part of damaging them. Juubito still block Goju with Gudo as in instinct, something of the explosion, you would think doesn't need Gudo for protection, but his own body can withstand ever blast it made.

Doesn't mean that the Gudo Dama can do it, nor does it mean that the Gudo Dama did do it. If the Jinton factor mattered, then it'd disintegrate Naruto and Sasuke's attacks despite them being Senjutsu.

Lmao, the only way for the bold to even matter here is if Susanoo Arrow was so much stronger than Bijuu Dama that the latter's contribution is completely irrelevant. At the very best they'd be equal, thus BSM Bijuu Dama on it's own would do half the damage that was done in canon, which is still much better than what Gojo did, considering Gojo didn't do anything at all.

The rest is irrelevant. Being able to hurt Juubito isn't a feat when even SM Naruto's Rasengan can put a hole in his back. Gudo Dama tanked it, thus it's weaker than BSM Bijuu Dama by far, thus this quote, "any character, that isn't Juubi level durability, can take on this blast", makes zero sense and is nothing but a vast overestimation of Gojo's power, which is ironic since you are telling others not to downplay it.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Last reply for today.

Doesn't mean that the Gudo Dama can do it, nor does it mean that the Gudo Dama did do it. If the Jinton factor mattered, then it'd disintegrate Naruto and Sasuke's attacks despite them being Senjutsu.

Make no sense. Gudo will do what its made to do. Thats for you to disprove otherwise. Disintegration priorities matter and Senjutsu is irrelevant point since It was stated that Senjutsu nullify the effects of Gudo.

Lmao, the only way for the bold to even matter here is if Susanoo Arrow was so much stronger than Bijuu Dama that the latter's contribution is completely irrelevant. At the very best they'd be equal, thus BSM Bijuu Dama on it's own would do half the damage that was done in canon, which is still much better than what Gojo did, considering Gojo didn't do anything at all.

Overall Gudo wasn't even my point in bringing up. The orbs are inconstant to what it can can can't take. Guy's attack pack more power then Naruto's and Sasuke attack, yet needed a direct confrontation to snap Gudo

The rest is irrelevant. Being able to hurt Juubito isn't a feat when even SM Naruto's Rasengan can put a hole in his back. Gudo Dama tanked it, thus it's weaker than BSM Bijuu Dama by far, thus this quote, "any character, that isn't Juubi level durability, can take on this blast", makes zero sense and is nothing but a vast overestimation of Gojo's power, which is ironic since you are telling others not to downplay it.

Bringing up Senjutsu attacks to nullify the attack is irrelevant to try to disprove a claim, especially when we seen him tank much stronger attacks.

 

[KidGamer65]

Last reply for today.



Make no sense. Gudo will do what its made to do. Thats for you to disprove otherwise. Disintegration priorities matter and Senjutsu is irrelevant point since It was stated that Senjutsu nullify the effects of Gudo

Gudo Dama disintegrates things. There is no proof that it can disintegrate explosions. Senjutsu doesn't nullify the effects of the Gudo Dama. Please read the damn Manga. Senjutsu can't be negated by Onmyodon. Has little to do with the Gudo Dama's ability to disintegrate.

Overall Gudo wasn't even my point in bringing up. The orbs are inconstant to what it can can can't take. Guy's attack pack more power then Naruto's and Sasuke attack, yet needed a direct confrontation to snap Gudo

No, they aren't inconsistent. Now you are just making excuses to make your claim not sound as outlandish as we all know it does. Gai's attack was just an air cannon. That's why it needed a direct hit to destroy the Gudo Dama.

Bringing up Senjutsu attacks to nullify the attack is irrelevant to try to disprove a claim, especially when we seen him tank much stronger attacks.

Lmao, this is really pathetic, but I didn't expect anything less from you. Senjutsu can't be negated. That's it. Senjutsu doesn't decrease the power of the Gudo Dama nor does it make the disintegration factor disappear. Fact of the matter is, Gudo Dama failed to completely tank BSM Bijuu Dama, yet Gojo was tanked with no damage. Stop denying fact. Stop grasping at straws. You do this every single time and it's pretty annoying.

At least the new sig is worth the irritation. Lmao.

 

[TRE MERCER]

TSB could always neglect Ninjutsu. What it couldnt do (mindless) was cancel/erase it from existence. I dont even know how this is relevant to begin with.
Ok how does this invalidate my point?

Um no if it did have it's negating property Hiruzen and Tobirama would have been dead or unable to regenerate just like Minato arm was once it was hit with it.
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[Brother Numpsay]

Gudo Dama disintegrates things. There is no proof that it can disintegrate explosions. Senjutsu doesn't nullify the effects of the Gudo Dama. Please read the damn Manga. Senjutsu can't be negated by Onmyodon. Has little to do with the Gudo Dama's ability to disintegrate.

Nice, so your claim is Gudo disintegrates things, yet made a claim that it doesn't for explosions. Its not like explosions is any different category of "things". The burden of proof is on you to prove it didn't. Stop bringing up Onmy. I am talking about Gudo not the ability itself, which is what Onmydon is.

No, they aren't inconsistent. Now you are just making excuses to make your claim not sound as outlandish as we all know it does. Gai's attack was just an air cannon. That's why it needed a direct hit to destroy the Gudo Dama.

Um not an excuse. It is inconsistent base on the fact that it can only be damage by specific moves. The priorities of Gai's attack is irrelevant as its very clear the damage input is much more devastating to the tbb that chipped off Gudo. Your trying to argue that base on the fact "this jutsu" can damage "that jutsu" therefore the one that can damage it is superior. If I were to use your logic I would say Naruto tbb is superior to Quaddamas.

Lmao, this is really pathetic, but I didn't expect anything less from you. Senjutsu can't be negated. That's it. Senjutsu doesn't decrease the power of the Gudo Dama nor does it make the disintegration factor disappear. Fact of the matter is, Gudo Dama failed to completely tank BSM Bijuu Dama, yet Gojo was tanked with no damage. Stop denying fact. Stop grasping at straws. You do this every single time and it's pretty annoying.

Addressed above. @Bold are you serious? So your saying that Kurama Avatar and Legged Susanoo can tank an attack that would atomize anything that touches it?

The only one grasping at straws is the one that talks about something irrelevant to my point, as I was arguing Juubi's durability and not Gudo, and go off along with it to disprove my point.

At least the new sig is worth the irritation. Lmao.

Being irritated by someone who's being corny by choice? Sounds about right, lmao. Its petty to be exact.

Um no if it did have it's negating property Hiruzen and Tobirama would have been dead or unable to regenerate just like Minato arm was once it was hit with it.
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Get with the program. Neglect meant as in the "Jinton effect". It can still decompose anything that touches it.

 

[KidGamer65]

Nice, so your claim is Gudo disintegrates things, yet made a claim that it doesn't for explosions. Its not like explosions is any different category of "things". The burden of proof is on you to prove it didn't. Stop bringing up Onmy. I am talking about Gudo not the ability itself, which is what Onmydon is.

Not really. Gudo Dama has never disintegrated anything close to an explosion. It's only disintegrated physical objects. The only way it'd be able to disintegrate explosions is if it was Jinton, and it's not Jinton. It's similar.

Then there's the fact that you have no evidence that it did disintegrate the explosives. If all the explosive tags were disintegrated, then why in the hell would the explosions continue despite the tags being obliterated, as in the tags from the center of the explosion?

Oh wait, there is no reason why would they would be. You are just pulling shit out of your ass to hide the fact that you sound like a retard, as usual.

Um not an excuse. It is inconsistent base on the fact that it can only be damage by specific moves. The priorities of Gai's attack is irrelevant as its very clear the damage input is much more devastating to the tbb that chipped off Gudo. Your trying to argue that base on the fact "this jutsu" can damage "that jutsu" therefore the one that can damage it is superior. If I were to use your logic I would say Naruto tbb is superior to Quaddamas.

It's not inconsistent. You are just trying to make an inconsistency so you have an excuse to ignore the clear cut fact that Gojo failed to damage the Gudo Dama when it couldn't even negate Ninjutsu. The worst thing about this whole argument is that Paper Tags aren't Ninjutsu. But I've still gone along with your BS.

Gai's attack is an air cannon, once again. Air cannons push the opponent back. Not all that energy hits and stays on the target. Then there's the fact that the air cannon was so much larger than Madara's body and his shield. When Gai landed a direct assault, they broke. Don't cry "inconsistency inconsistency" when there is a clear explanation for it.

@bold: Are you dumb? That's exactly how it works for every kind of defense. Your example is shitty as hell since Obito's Juubidama was negated, hence the lack of damage. Naruto's attack wasn't, hence the damage. Using excuses like "inconsistency" isn't going to work when the simple answer is, despite being a JJ, Obito didn't put, or couldn't put, Senjutsu into his Bijuu Dama. Using excuses like "not focused enough" won't work when Hashirama and Madara were also obliterated by said explosion and when it was contained in a barrier.

Then there's the fact that the Gudo Dama we are talking about can't even negate Ninjutsu.

Addressed above. @Bold are you serious? So your saying that Kurama Avatar and Legged Susanoo can tank an attack that would atomize anything that touches it?

Are you stupid? Gudo Dama doesn't atomize anything that touches it. That's Jinton. Gudo Dama disintegrates what it's strong enough to disintegrate. That's why

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didn't run right through Sasuke's Susanoo despite it not being Senjutsu. That's why Naruto survived. If it was like Jinton, it would've torn right through Susanoo and killed Naruto.

Gudo Dama isn't strong enough to vaporize the Kurama Avatar or Legged Susanoo. Hiruzen said it's similar, not that it's the same.

The only one grasping at straws is the one that talks about something irrelevant to my point, as I was arguing Juubi's durability and not Gudo, and go off along with it to disprove my point.

Irrelevant to the point? Boy, what a retard. Juubi's durability is completely irrelevant since Gojo has never done anything to prove that it can hurt the Juubi in any way, shape or form. Gojo has one direct feat, and that's failing to scratch the Gudo Dama that can't even negate Ninjutsu. To try and ignore the most direct failure of a feat that Gojo has, you started crying about how the Gudo Dama disintegrated the explosion even though there is literally no proof for that.

And while I'm at it, let me read the Manga to you since, like many others, you can't do so yourself.

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"Fast and Tough". The Next panel is "With attacks that turn to dust in an instant".

Now, let's read together.

First quote refers to the speed and defense of the Gudo Dama. Obito only used them twice before Hiruzen's assessment. Once to block Gojo, and once before here.

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Since the first quote refers to the speed and defense of the Gudo Dama, Hiruzen obviously isn't talking about this instance since he used them for an attack that turned Hashirama and Tobirama to dust? Oh wait! What quote does that match?

"With attacks that turn to dust in an instant".


Yes. Now what is left? The second time he used the Gudo Dama, and that was against Gojo. What quote does that match?

"Fast and Tough".


Speed and defense. End of ****ing story. (But I fully expect another retarded reply)

Being irritated by someone who's being corny by choice? Sounds about right, lmao. Its petty to be exact.

Corny? Lmao. Not sure what you are talking about when you say corny, but you are definitely being the usual retard that you are. What's petty is that you'll grasp at straws and twist whatever material you can find to make your point not sound like it's retarded.