(DrProof) - Kidōmaru >>> Tsunade

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Are you serious right now? A normal human being dies immediately when shot in the brain, without a question. I'm pretty disappointed right now man.
Tsunade isn't a normal human. I'm disappointed that you think Tsunade is like a human from the real world.
Yeah, did you also know that Madara was a Juubi Jinchuriki? The guy literally got sliced in half and didn't care. And his brains weren't even affected. As you can see, his shell was just destroyed. Tsunade was on verge of death. That's the difference.
Madara almost died after getting hit by Gai so I'm not sure why you are saying he got sliced in half when that version of Madara is different from the version of Madara I'm talking about.
So apparently Tsunade is immortal in your opinion? Is this what we've come to? Jesus.
Proof of Tsunade's immunity to dying immediately after getting hit in the brain was posted. Petty way of downplaying my arguments.
 

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No it doesnt. Your kidneys, stomach and all other organs fail as you bleed out. That has nothing to do with pain tolerance, you die when you get cut in half.
Sure the do, but it's not instant like death like the brain is.
 

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Where do you see Madara's brain damaged here? He only had half of his face severely injured. Never reached his brain.
Much different than having a hole through your skull like this
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Tsunade isn't a normal human. I'm disappointed that you think Tsunade is like a human from the real world.

So because Sasuke isn't a normal human he should also survive getting stabbed? Oh wait.

Madara almost died after getting hit by Gai so I'm not sure why you are saying he got sliced in half when that version of Madara is different from the version of Madara I'm talking about.

Yeah probably because his brains weren't blown off. Doesn't that tell how much of a use regeneration while dead really is?

Proof of Tsunade's immunity to dying immediately after getting hit in the brain was posted. Petty way of downplaying my arguments.

I mean damn son, how do I convince you anything if you think she can heal herself after she dies? Why are we even arguing about it?

I knew Tsunade fans go overborder sometimes, but this is just illogical guys. Immortality? No please.
 

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So because Sasuke isn't a normal human he should also survive getting stabbed? Oh wait.



Yeah probably because his brains weren't blown off. Doesn't that tell how much of a use regeneration while dead really is?



I mean damn son, how do I convince you anything if you think she can heal herself after she dies? Why are we even arguing about it?

I knew Tsunade fans go overborder sometimes, but this is just illogical guys. Immortality? No please.

  • Sasuke has never shown to have the life force that Tsunade......How did bringing him help you? We are obivously talking about Tsunade's un-human body.
  • Byakugo does not work on brain activity. It works on chakra. As long as there is chakra and an injury happens, cells divide.
  • Orochimaru himself stated Tsunade was immortal. Yes he used that word. Even though it scares you lol.
  • Tsunade said she wouldnt die in battle using the technique.

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Sword straight through the heart and out her back.


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Multiple deep slashes.


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Transport at the speed of light, something that only someone with steel flesh and iron blood was able to, something that should have ripped her apart. But even with deep wounds she was still able to survive the initial transport and land a kick on Madara.


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She was cut in half and despite that she was still able to summon a large portion of Katsuyu.


Byakugou/Creation rebirth:

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Multiple deep wounds healed right away.


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Susano sword right through her abdomen and spine. She then breaks the sword and removes the part that was in her.


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Three yasaka magatama at point blank range. Magatama are strong enough to almost break the sand and rock defense of Gaara and Onoki. She is then thrown back hard breaking rocks.

Yes the Magatama are not the same size however if you scale the two different situations the smaller magatama should have cut into Tsunade like the bigger ones did to the defense.


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She is seen fighting with two different susano swords in her abdomen, was still able to throw a punch.


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Katon - Ryuuen Houka no justu which she pushed back with her arms and healed the burns.​
 

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>Says Tsunade is immortal
>I guess PS slash, BB, night moth, and other techniques on this level won't kill her.

btw that brain is the thing that controls the chakra network and allows chakra to flow.
 

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>Says Tsunade is immortal
>I guess PS slash, BB, night moth, and other techniques on this level won't kill her.

btw that brain is the thing that controls the chakra network and allows chakra to flow.

When did anyone say this? You are getting ass hurt for no reason. If her body gets destroyed GG for Tsunade. Thats very clear.

Except Byakugo doesnt work on brain activity. Just chakra.
 

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So because Sasuke isn't a normal human he should also survive getting stabbed? Oh wait.
Does Sasuke have Byakogou? Is Sasuke a Senju/Uzumaki hybrid?

Yeah probably because his brains weren't blown off. Doesn't that tell how much of a use regeneration while dead really is?
What makes you think Tsunade will die after getting shot in the brain? Where in the manga or databook is it implied that a regeneration user gets killed instantly? On the other hand, the manga and databook support my claim.



I mean damn son, how do I convince you anything if you think she can heal herself after she dies? Why are we even arguing about it?

I knew Tsunade fans go overborder sometimes, but this is just illogical guys. Immortality? No please.
You're the one who claims she dies so now prove to me she dies.
 

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Where in the manga or databook is it implied that a regeneration user gets killed instantly?

Why are you going out of your way to specifically word ''a regeneration'' user as if you were trying to imply that having regeneration makes your normal human body function different? Do you know what regeneration is? It's renewal or restoration of a body part. It offers literally nothing to your normal bodily functions nor does it give you any kind of durability. If a normal person would die instantly due to some wound then a regeneration user would do, too, and there is nothing regeneration can do about that because regenerating your body parts doesn't bring you back to life. Regeneration isn't revival. You'd be lucky to survive a bullet burying itself into your brain, let alone actually getting that brain ripped open by a big ass arrow hole.
 

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Does Sasuke have Byakogou? Is Sasuke a Senju/Uzumaki hybrid?

Did I claim any of these? You were the one saying "Tsunade is not normal human". So did I with Sasuke. But hey, he still dies.

What makes you think Tsunade will die after getting shot in the brain? Where in the manga or databook is it implied that a regeneration user gets killed instantly? On the other hand, the manga and databook support my claim.

No, you don't. You have this:

"When ones life is effected by grave wounds pushed to the point where they'd normally die, ones body is instantly returned to an unwounded condition."

Do you know what this means? If I beat you to pulp, until you are in severe condition and keep beating you that is pushing to a point where you normally die. Same with stabbing continously. But Tsunade would survive, because she regenerates that immediately. So essentially everytime you punch her, it's like the first time. That's why she's considered very hard to kill. But if I shoot you in the head, it doesn't matter how many times I keep shooting you because you have already died immediately by the first shot. I didn't push you to a point, I outright killed you. Same would happen to Tsunade, because blowing brains out always results in instant death.

You're the one who claims she dies so now prove to me she dies.

She dies if shot in the head. Instantly.
 
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Why are you going out of your way to specifically word ''a regeneration'' user as if you were trying to imply that having regeneration makes your normal human body function different? Do you know what regeneration is? It's renewal or restoration of a body part. It offers literally nothing to your normal bodily functions nor does it give you any kind of durability. If a normal person would die instantly due to some wound then a regeneration user would do, too, and there is nothing regeneration can do about that because regenerating your body parts doesn't bring you back to life. Regeneration isn't revival. You'd be lucky to survive a bullet burying itself into your brain, let alone actually getting that brain ripped open by a big ass arrow hole.

No Byakugo obviously is not just regeneration. Even before her spine is healed, Tsunade is throwing punches and moving. It doesnt offer durability but it offers the body some sort of super mode where the body is on some crazy steroid.
 
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Has the possibility of the arrow splintering or being lodged in her skull been brought up yet? I'm no medical expert, but the area torn through Neji didn't have any bones, right? The skull's what, one of if not THE thickest bone in the human body? If the arrow makes it in, who's to say it makes it out? It could get stuck inside or even begin to splinter once breaking contact, like a 9MM bullet running havoc inside her head.

It'd prove for even more problematic regen if either happened, supposing Tsunade would be able to regenerate afterwards, was still alive, and supposing her brain recovered 100% to its prior state.
 

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Has the possibility of the arrow splintering or being lodged in her skull been brought up yet? I'm no medical expert, but the area torn through Neji didn't have any bones, right? The skull's what, one of if not THE thickest bone in the human body? If the arrow makes it in, who's to say it makes it out? It could get stuck inside or even begin to splinter once breaking contact, like a 9MM bullet running havoc inside her head.

It'd prove for even more problematic regen if either happened, supposing Tsunade would be able to regenerate afterwards, was still alive, and supposing her brain recovered 100% to its prior state.

Kidomaru's arrows developed a drill that goes past any obstacle it encounters. Well not any... but most certainly bones.
 

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No Byakugo obviously is not just regeneration. Even before her spine is healed, Tsunade is throwing punches and moving. It doesnt offer durability but it offers the body some sort of super mode where the body is on some crazy steroid.

And where it specifically stated that it is Byakugo's effect that does this? As far as we know, that could easily be the result of Tsunade's own willpower and redudancy. Byakugo has never been directly shown to be revival and it's been stated to be regeneration if anything. Anything short of revival after death isn't possible to bring you back to life regardless of how fast or good Byakugo can regenerate or how much willpower does Tsunade have.
 

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Has the possibility of the arrow splintering or being lodged in her skull been brought up yet? I'm no medical expert, but the area torn through Neji didn't have any bones, right? The skull's what, one of if not THE thickest bone in the human body? If the arrow makes it in, who's to say it makes it out? It could get stuck inside or even begin to splinter once breaking contact, like a 9MM bullet running havoc inside her head.

It'd prove for even more problematic regen if either happened, supposing Tsunade would be able to regenerate afterwards, was still alive, and supposing her brain recovered 100% to its prior state.

Well if your feel your shoulder, you will see there is bone there. Kimimaro also shows this.

But I agree if it somehow lodges in her head. She will die.

But if there is nothing in her head then the brain gets regenerated. But as I have stated Tsunade wont function correctly even if her brain gets healed.
 

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Kidomaru's arrows developed a drill that goes past any obstacle it encounters. Well not any... but most certainly bones.

The skull's pretty thick, I wouldn't doubt that it might break when inside. But my post was just saying that if something like that happened, Tsunade's brain would take a considerable amount of damage to boot, along with new problems rising when it comes to regen.

Though, I doubt she can regen a piece of her brain/skull that large. That'd be a massive hole and a lotta body gone.
 

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And where it specifically stated that it is Byakugo's effect that does this? As far as we know, that could easily be the result of Tsunade's own willpower and redudancy. Byakugo has never been directly shown to be revival and it's been stated to be regeneration if anything. Anything short of revival after death isn't possible to bring you back to life regardless of how fast or good Byakugo can regenerate or how much willpower does Tsunade have.

LOL No person moves like this after their spine is broken like so not even Tsunade. You have to be a new kinda stupid to not realize its Byakugo's doing and to question it as well.

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LOL No person moves like this after their spine is broken like so not even Tsunade. You have to be a new kinda stupid to not realize its Byakugo's doing and to question it as well.

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The serious damage isn't actually done to the spine until after you pull the object that's penetrated it out. Which is when the Byakugo happens. Not that serious that she did this :lol
 

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Why is this being debated when it doesn't change the outcome of the battle?
 

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LOL No person moves like this after their spine is broken like so not even Tsunade. You have to be a new kinda stupid to not realize its Byakugo's doing and to question it as well.

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Uhuh. And Hidan broke his own spine [ ], yet moved perfectly fine despite having normal body construction aside from a normal concept of death. Either way, it doesn't prove that Byakugo is a reviving ability.
 
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