Orochimaru vs Sasori

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Conditions
Orochimaru is healthy and can use both his arms. Sasori has all his puppets and is alive.

Location
Forest of Death

Intel
Full Intel for both sides

Restrictions
Edo Tensei
Hydra form


Mindset
Bloodlusted
 

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In b4 someone states Orochimaru is immune to Sasori's poison when nothing in the manga suggests that.
 

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Oro wins Mid-diff
 

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It'd be good to specify whether or not you're taking into account the implication that Orochimaru is immune to poisons. Logically, Orochimaru would have full knowledge of Sasori's abilities and poisons, having spent a long time with him in Akatsuki, and his scientific mind would undoubtedly take that into account for the future. But, as RedRobin stated, there's nothing in the manga that directly implies that Oro is immune to Sasori's poison.

If you take that into account, I give the win to Orochimaru. If not, Sasori.

Some people will claim that Sasori would have trouble dealing with Oro's snake summons, to which I say snakes aren't immune to poison of any sort, even their own. They'd fall victim to Sasori's paralysis just like anyone else. However, I think Orochimaru just has too much up his sleeve for Sasori to handle, especially since most of Sasori's attacks are cutting attacks... which, of course, Orochimaru can easily regenerate from.

However, Orochimaru's fighting style isn't particularly defensive. He lets himself get hit fairly often, confident that he'll heal from whatever wound he takes. While this might not be the case with Sasori, he would try to dodge more with intel on the puppeteer's poisons, he lacks a solid defense to keep him from being poisoned. With poison working, Sasori takes it mid-diff. Without, Oro mid-diff.
 

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Orochimaru low diffs.
 

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Sasori high diff. One scratch is needed.
 

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It was stated Sasuke was resistant to poison in general why not Oro

Because Sasori's poison isn't natural poison and there is nothing in the manga that suggests anyone is immune to it outside of antidotes.
 

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Because Sasori's poison isn't natural poison and there is nothing in the manga that suggests anyone is immune to it outside of antidotes.
Didn't Sasori also say he changes his poison frequently as well?
 

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The Oro vs Sasori's poison debate is pretty much pointless, since nobody really wants to concede. So, it's probably best to just say in the conditions whether or not Oro is immune in the given fight.
 

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Orochimaru mid diff
 

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How many times can he do it? He can't do it indefinitely.

True, he can't. But he can do it quite a few times. He used it 3 times against Kyuubi Naruto, and the last one was after he'd already used a massive amount of Chakra for Triple Rashomon

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And that was of course when he was far from 100%. So at full power with no sickness I'd say he could use anywhere between 5 to 15 times, give or take. There's not a very proper gauge for it.

Also, Orochimaru has a few speed feats of his own, in order to weave through puppets and Iron Sand.
At the Tenchii Bridge,

Orochimaru started somewhere in the forest,

And appeared behind Kabuto in an instant.
There's also another off the top of my head.

When he Shunshin'd to stop Sasuke.
Not to mention Leech All Creation or possibly Hidden Mole Jutsu for further defense and possibly adding an element of surprise.
Also, Manda will be a big help in this as well. The weapons of the normal puppets won't be harming Manda in any way. But it's possible the Iron Sand could, but idk as Manda is a *very* durable snake. Remaining in one piece after withstanding an unknown portion of C0. Of course it killed him, but the fact he wasn't evaporated is a testament to his durability.

I don't want to debate, those are just thoughts of mine.
 
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True, he can't. But he can do it quite a few times. He used it 3 times against Kyuubi Naruto, and the last one was after he'd already used a massive amount of Chakra for Triple Rashomon

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And that was of course when he was far from 100%. So at full power with no sickness I'd say he could use anywhere between 5 to 15 times, give or take. There's not a very proper gauge for it.

Also, Orochimaru has a few speed feats of his own, in order to weave through puppets and Iron Sand.
At the Tenchii Bridge,

Orochimaru started somewhere in the forest,

And appeared behind Kabuto in an instant.
There's also another off the top of my head.

When he Shunshin'd to stop Sasuke.
Not to mention Leech All Creation or possibly Hidden Mole Jutsu for further defense and possibly adding an element of surprise.
Also, Manda will be a big help in this as well. The weapons of the normal puppets won't be harming Manda in any way. But it's possible the Iron Sand could, but idk as Manda is a *very* durable snake. Remaining in one piece after withstanding an unknown portion of C0. Of course it killed him, but the fact he wasn't evaporated is a testament to his durability.

I don't want to debate, those are just thoughts of mine.
5-15 is just a huge range. Sasuke could only do it once. I doubt Oro's chakra at full power is that much greater than Hebi Sasuke's. But again my knowledge on Oro is as bad as my knowledge on Sasori.
 

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Orochimaru's oral rebith should Save him from getting posined, since it literally gives him a new body, disposing of thw poisoned one. His speed feats and CQC showed against 4T naruto tell us that he wouldn't have that much trouble against Sasori's puppets and he has Rashomon gates as an ultimate defence. Manda would be a great help for oro since he can use it as a shield and its big size would make it almost immune to poison.

Orochimaru wins med-high diff
 

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I hope you guys can prove the new body thing.
 
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