So now that Sasuke uses Kage bunshin

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What does Naruto have to compete?

I mean it was his counter to Sharingan. When Sasuke had Sharingan, Naruto would have to use KB to be on par.

Now that Sasuke has Sharingan and KB, he stomps at cqc. As well, Naruto's ability to use tactics with KB now transfer to Sasuke, who masters everything in his arsenal.

Imagine Sasuke using KB in ways like Itachi, or Naruto.
 

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Uh.... he does?
The new bolt movie, sasuke uses kage bunshin without any seals.
[video=youtube;8g-Z2JtKzf4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g-Z2JtKzf4&channel=AnimeAnalystXV[/video]
OT: Learning how preform a justu does not automatically give you everything that was accomplished by someone else who was using that same justu but at a different level, nor is going to put you above the person who showed more mastery and feats using it.
 
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The new bolt movie, sasuke uses kage bunshin without any seals.
[video=youtube;8g-Z2JtKzf4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g-Z2JtKzf4&channel=AnimeAnalystXV[/video]
OT: Learning how preform a justu does not automatically give you everything that was accomplished by someone else who was using that same justu but at a different level, nor is going to put you above the person who showed more mastery and feats using it.
More mastery? You mean more expereince? Naruto was using KB for 4 years and didn't know that he could gain all the knowledge,and expereince that the clone has once it dissapears until Kakashi told him. Sasuke's a genuis, he'd figure that out quickly.

Naruto has more feats with it,and experience, not mastery - as you said, Sasuke used no hand seals in the trailer, and in that same trailer, we see Naruto with the KB hand seals up about to do the Jutsu, thus showing after about 20 years of using it, he still needs hand seals.

Right now it hasn't been confirmed it's the shadow clone. It could be a clone. Sasuke learned that in the academy.
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Kishi confirmed that it's a new bunshin jutsu. Lord Sasuke managed to remove the weakness of the jutsu. He can spawn clones that are as strong as him.
 

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Um they were bunshins yes but no proof of Kage bunshins as of yet. Sasuke would hardly be able to spam KB the way Naruto does because Naruto has far more chakra. Even if Sasuke does manage to integrate KB into his arsenal and isn't just using it for teaching purposes, that alone won't shoot him far at all ahead of Naruto. Naruto became far less reliant on KB post BSM and RSM because he could make make FRS and RS variants without the need for clones. In Vote 2 Naruto only used KB to spam all his RS variants at once (Sage Art: Super Tailed Beast Rasen Shuriken). Only 9 KB were required. Plus, I've said it a thousand times and I'll say it again. Sasuke will not be stronger than Naruto.
If Sasky gets a power-up, Nardo will get one too, by the end of the manga they will remain as EQUALS. :naruto: :sasuke:
 

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More mastery? You mean more expereince? Naruto was using KB for 4 years and didn't know that he could gain all the knowledge,and expereince that the clone has once it dissapears until Kakashi told him. Sasuke's a genuis, he'd figure that out quickly.
I exactly meant what I said, It's a stupid term used in the base to describe the extra feats of any mastered justu or ability, seeing how naruto has surpassed the word "mastery" many times such as chakra control which he brought to a new level which wasn't there before he did . And yeah that clearly does nothing to my actual point....
Naruto has more feats with it,and experience, not mastery - as you said, Sasuke used no hand seals in the trailer, and in that same trailer, we see Naruto with the KB hand seals up about to do the Jutsu, thus showing after about 20 years of using it, he still needs hand seals.
Naruto made kage bunshin with a seal ever since he was young, it's fair to assume that he got used to it. And technically speaking naruto can make a clone make another clone and thus not needing anymore seals, so there you go...........
 
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Going back and looking at the video we don't we what Sasuke did before the clone appeared. When the scene focus on Sasuke the clones are appearing. Sasuke, like Naruto, can now form handseals with one hand. There is no proof he didn't form the handseals underneath his cloak.

At this time it is all speculation.
 

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More mastery? You mean more expereince? Naruto was using KB for 4 years and didn't know that he could gain all the knowledge,and expereince that the clone has once it dissapears until Kakashi told him. Sasuke's a genuis, he'd figure that out quickly.

Naruto has more feats with it,and experience, not mastery - as you said, Sasuke used no hand seals in the trailer, and in that same trailer, we see Naruto with the KB hand seals up about to do the Jutsu, thus showing after about 20 years of using it, he still needs hand seals.



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I agree an adult Sasuke would get the majority of KB down like nothing because between dumbass teenager Naruto and adult Sasuke there is no comparison in intellect. However, how is experience not the same as mastery? True, Naruto took ages to figure out something as simple as retaining information after the jutsu is released and even then he had to be told by Kakashi but that does not mean he didn't show masterful use of the technique in other regards. If you are saying Naruto's experience with KB makes him better at using it than someone who is new to the jutsu like Sasuke (if he even uses it at all) than I don't see why that experience wouldn't be considered mastery of the jutsu. Being able to use a jutsu to it's utmost effectiveness is my idea of mastery. If you are saying that Sasuke will be able to use KB at the skill level as Naruto than I disagree.

The use of hand seals is just a trademark for the franchise, even if he could use the jutsu without hand seals it wouldn't matter he would still be shown using them. And I swear Naruto had already used KB without hand signs multiple times, I could be wrong though because I can't remember any exact times. I thought if he can manage making the rasengan with out clones then surely he can manage something as simple as KB without hand signs.
 
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