The biggest and most overlooked Hagoromo Ootsutsuki's feat

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Hello guys, I know that after reading title of my thread you will think I am going to wank Hagoromo or blindly fanboy over him because most people have known me as Hagoromo fanboy :p, but I assure you that none of these things will happen and it will be all supported with manga's scans/statements. Here we go:

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^^ The Divine blade of The Sage of six paths called Nunoboku was once in Obito's possesion as he was hyping it.

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^^ The same sword who was supposedly used to create the world. Here of course some people will scream bullshit and pure hype as Hagoromo was born in this world so he couldn't create it when it has been existing long before his birth.

It is true, however there is also another translation using rather word "reshape" the world instead of creating it.

Before someone bring me scan of Naruto and Sasuke breaking Nunoboku with Sussano infused kurama sword, I want to remind all of you that this sword is sword of soul and depends on strong feelings of wielder and we know Obito was going to break eariler or latter so he just made himself fail.

But why there could be even need for that ?. Unless great destruction happened to the world of Narutoverse.

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^^ Indeed Hagoromo and Hamura had to battle Juubi which was combination of their mother and Tree with God Tree having control somehow, instead of Kaguya.

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^^ Both Hagoromo and Hamura used powerfull seals to mark her and restrict her movements while Hagoromo casted CT using seals as center of gravity attraction making moon.

Juubi's power:
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Well someone may came in now and say: "stop, but that could be just hype, we have never seen like that from Juubi."

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^^ Doesn't it look familiar although ?.

Even if by some luck you believe Juubi didn't use any TBB to bring destruction trying to kill Hagoromoa and Hamura in their battle. Neither it had time to use Ten penchi or other destructive attacks, noone of you can refute what destruction to planet could bring creation of the moon alone.

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Just look at the scale of destruction/amount of ground Moon took to be created...

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^^ Comparing The Moon to tailed beasts..., Can you see how big fourth part(assuming) was big in compare to the tailed beasts :p.

CONCLUSION : Considering scale of destruction Incomplete Juubi could bring, just imagine Complete Juubi being around continent level, Adding creation of Moon The word was greatly destroyed in other words Hagoromo as TTH need to recreate at least whole continent, possibly recreating whole world landscape, elements excluding planet's core itself.

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Sasuke dimension swift GG
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When they said create/reshape, they didn't mean physically.

Not which is the earth's existence, but how it exists; people.
 

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Its #mangafact

no until I see manga scan of it. gg your fail argument.

Please do not bother me until you have any base to back up your argument.

When they said create/reshape, they didn't mean physically.

Not which is the earth's existence, but how it exists; people.

^^ sorry but 4th Databook disagree. It says Truth seeking orbs's great powers are creating matter, peak of creation of all things. Considering that Nunoboku sword is described as shape of Truth seeking orbs, I have more then enough point to believe it mean physcially especially after scale of battle Juubi vs Hagoromo and Hamura would cause
 
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no until I see manga scan of it. gg your fail argument.

Please do not bother me until you have any base to back up your argument.



^^ sorry but 4th Databook disagree. It says Truth seeking orbs's great powers are creating matter, peak of creation of all things. Considering that Nunoboku sword is described as shape of Truth seeking orbs, I have more then enough point to believe it mean physcially especially after scale of battle Juubi vs Hagoromo and Hamura would cause

So me a mangascan of this sword creating something or be stronger then PS sword

Come back when that happens
 

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Sasuke still negs him
 

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for now fanfic... so I am sorry but your argument is pointless.

Try harder

Even though I like Hagoromo and consider him the second most powerful being in the history of NV after Kaguya (3d is Sasuke), that's really hypocritical of you, because Hagoromo has shown almose zero feats in the manga, he's all hype.
 
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You Know What , Hagoromo is The Creator Of Whole Shinobi World . He needs not to be compared . Its always Naruto+Sasuke=Hagoromo , just because without him giving powers to them , they would be dead meat . And , they are just each Half of Hagoromo's Power .
 

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So me a mangascan of this sword creating something or be stronger then PS sword

Come back when that happens

Too bad, I have more points proving me point but you have none.

1. TSB can use COAT
2. Nunoboku is pinacle of COAT and is just shape of TSB
3. It was shown in the manga
4. Juubi is not pushover
5. The moon creation doesn't get created without any harm to planet

gg, you fanboy logic

Sasuke still negs him

How nice of you to get here. Your hate blind you just like Sasuke.

Even though I like Hagoromo and consider him the second most powerful being in the history of NV after Kaguya (3d is Sasuke), that's really hypocritical of you, because Hagoromo has shown almose zero feats in the manga, he's all hype.

Really ?. at least I have points and connecting dots shown in the manga I can deduce it. Just read this thread and you know it.
Thanks for support but you should be more open-minded and see it.

You Know What , Hagoromo is The Creator Of Whole Shinobi World . He needs not to be compared . Its always Naruto+Sasuke=Hagoromo , just because without him giving powers to them , they would be dead meat . And , they are just each Half of Hagoromo's Power .

Of course ;).
 

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Too bad, I have more points proving me point but you have none.

1. TSB can use COAT
2. Nunoboku is pinacle of COAT and is just shape of TSB
3. It was shown in the manga
4. Juubi is not pushover
5. The moon creation doesn't get created without any harm to planet

gg, you fanboy logic



How nice of you to get here. Your hate blind you just like Sasuke.



Really ?. at least I have points and connecting dots shown in the manga I can deduce it. Just read this thread and you know it.
Thanks for support but you should be more open-minded and see it.



Of course ;).


Still no scan .
Please where does it created something? :)
 

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Still no scan .
Please where does it created something? :)

wait for databook IV. It will clear your doubts. Just search for it's translations of fans which are in the interent.

Good luck but if you don't believe in common sense what manga has shown then nothing will convince you, not even Kishi.
 

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Too bad, I have more points proving me point but you have none.


Really ?. at least I have points and connecting dots shown in the manga I can deduce it. Just read this thread and you know it.
Thanks for support but you should be more open-minded and see it.


See what, exactly? I already said I agree with you, what's your point of telling me that I should be more open-minded in such situation? :| Furthermore, it's probably you are the one who needs tto be more open-minded. The fact is that Immortal's argument is as much valid as yours, if you read the latest chapter - it's stated that Sasuke can very much do it, so I don't see why you are denying it, especially considering that you use exactly the same logic, like you said - deducing facts from the info you get from the manga.
 

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See what, exactly? I already said I agree with you, what's your point of telling me that I should be more open-minded in such situation? :| Furthermore, it's probably you are the one who needs tto be more open-minded. The fact is that Immortal's argument is as much valid as yours, if you read the latest chapter - it's stated that Sasuke can very much do it, so I don't see why you are denying it, especially considering that you use exactly the same logic, like you said - deducing facts from the info you get from the manga.

I will only admit it next chapter when it happens. "The actions speak louder then words to me"

Sorry for misunderstanding you in other points then, but I am sure I have more to backup my opinion in opposite to me, but feel free to disagree
 

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^^ sorry but 4th Databook disagree. It says Truth seeking orbs's great powers are creating matter, peak of creation of all things. Considering that Nunoboku sword is described as shape of Truth seeking orbs, I have more then enough point to believe it mean physcially especially after scale of battle Juubi vs Hagoromo and Hamura would cause

No, it didn't say that whatsoever. Don't make things up, because I don't swallow that. It actually says they utilise the power shinra banshō "all things in the universe. The only thing the databook said in regards to their abilities is that "they have the power to destroy an entire forest."

So you're gonna to try and tell me that Hagoromo re shaped the world by destroying it even more?
 

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No, it didn't say that whatsoever. Don't make things up, because I don't swallow that. It actually says they utilise the power shinra banshō "all things in the universe. The only thing the databook said in regards to their abilities is that "they have the power to destroy an entire forest."

So you're gonna to try and tell me that Hagoromo re shaped the world by destroying it even more?

The quote you posted reffers to just TSB. The Nunoboko entry state it can destroy or create, so my point still stay valid.
 

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I agree, he's at least sasuke's tier
 

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I agree, he's at least sasuke's tier

very funny ;), but no. TTH Hagoromo is at least double as powerfull as Naruto/Sasuke indivudually.

Thanks for support although
 

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very funny ;), but no. TTH Hagoromo is at least double as powerfull as Naruto/Sasuke indivudually.

Thanks for support although

Theologically, sasuke neg anyone(hago included), but I'm giving the benefit of the doubt of the nerf, so they are equal in strength

 
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