Rinnegan Sasuke has surpassed Hagoromo?

[Bronze]

Sasuke fans are desperate. Madara shit-stomps Sasuke and Naruto.

 

[ARGUS]

Non Jin Hagoromo murks him,
JJ Hagoromo sends him back to the academy

 

[adeshina365]

Sasuke should definitely have surpassed him by now.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Base Hagoromo debatable.

Jj hagoromo simply shitstomps, especially in prime age

 

[Imperious]

I'm starting to wonder if Sage Tools apply, because then Hago rapes Sasuke...

 

[Unorthodox]

Bold is an assumption, a baseless one at that. The rest is irrelevant. Hagoromo gave Sasuke half his power, and Sasuke hasn't shown any growth that'd lead me to believe he's gotten as strong as Hagoromo. That simple. Stop wanking.

The bold is not an assumption it does not take 10 years to master a dojutsu let alone 15. Has not shown any growth? slap yourself from the time Hagoromo gave him that chakra he has been getting stronger and stronger his Chidori from the last alone > anything who could do without susanoo at vote alone. Vaporizing a village size rock with an average chidori like it was nothing far surpasses his chidori that rsm naruto took 0 damage from at vote he clearly got stronger and they we're like 20 in the last move no where near they're prime which they are in now.

Nope. Read the Manga again. Obito synced in order to enter the dimension in the first place. What he did there was open portals so that Sasuke could come through, or anyone could go in. What he's doing is the same as what Sasuke is doing except Obito himself isn't traveling. He's only opening gateways.

How in the world do you know sasuke did that? they're is to things wrong with your post 1 Sasuke's usage of Ameno cannot open portals at all so that kills him doing what obito did to begin with because he can only teleport. 2 you claim Sasuke did the same thing obito did yet a half dead obito and sakura could do that without exhausting chakra completely yet adult Sasuke was reduced to a ems level opponent who could not even use susanoo when he went to Her dimensions it does not add up sasuke clearly took the route Kaguya did or else he would not have even been effective by chakra loss if he truly used the obito and sakura method.

The rest is irrelevant as you have no idea what you are even talking about. Traveling through Kaguya's dimensions takes up a lot of chakra. Obito and Sakura's combined reserves were able to search through said dimensions and open portals. Your thread would have to admit that you believe those 2 have reserves comparable to Kaguya which is false.

Your only proving my point if those 2 could open into her dimensions that way without exhausting completely Adult sasuke who chakra is skies above them would not even break a sweat doing that.

Then there's the fact that Sasuke having enough chakra to search through these dimensions doesn't change the fact that he's not stronger than Hagoromo nor does it make him stronger than Hagoromo, and it doesn't mean he has as much chakra as Kaguya.

How is he not stronger than Hagoromo? He knows all of rinnegan techs Jinless Hagz has no bijuu so no bijuu damas or any chakra cloaks whatsoever sasuke is like him but 2.0 His susanoo would squash him like a bug, the last Sasuke chidori was levels above VOTE2 Sasuke's if we level that into his susanoo thats puts the last Sasuke above VOTE2 Sasuke in thats only a 3 year time difference which makes the last sasuke 20 at the most still young and no where near his prime adult Sasuke is like 37 which is an ideal prime in ninja years considering Minato died at 27 and widely known that he did not reach his prime Madara Hashirama Ay Bee Kakashi Hiruzen etc. all those guys are example that 30-42 is an ideal prime age making this sasuke much stronger than his Last counter part. Furthermore Adult Sasuke talks about something being ever more scarier than Kaguya he did not act scared or even the least bit worried and even turned down Naruto's help when he asked meaning he has some believe he could be a match for whatever it is and Sasuke is no fool to challenge someone thats anywhere near Kaguya power levels alone if he was not tiers above his teenage self.

Kaguya >= JJ Hagoromo >> Sharrinegan JJ Madara = Non Jin Hagoromo > The Last Naruto (w/RBSM) >= Hokage Naruto > VOTE2 Naruto = VOTE2 Sasuke (w/Biju) >> The Last Sasuke >= Adult Sasuke > VOTE2 Sasuke (no Biju)
Lol at Sasuke beating Hagoromo, he can't even catch up to his VOTE2 prime. By your logic that would mean that Sakura has as much chakra as Kaguya

Bish stop You can have an excuse for naruto he's been busy being hokage and lost his edge but Sasuke skills are as sharp as ever. i laughed at Madara being where he was at, it was still implied that Naruto and Sasuke could defeat him in their weakest post Hagoromo powered up forms Kaguya who is largely ahead of Madara was defeated by them their VOTE2 forms are roughly equal to Madara even if we give him hypothetical feats.

this order is most correct

Kaguya => Adult Sasuke = Hokage Naruto (In shape) = > JJ Hagoromo > Hokage Naruto > The Last Sasuke & Naruto >
JJ Madara = VOTE 2 Naruto & Sasuke. Someone who is to blind by whatever kidgamer types to see anything read the op before you post clown.

Non Jin Hagoromo murks him,
JJ Hagoromo sends him back to the academy

Kaguya could not even murk VOTE2 Sasuke let alone a jinless Hagoromo who has no chance against Adult Sasuke get slapped. JJ Hago would suffer defeat Juubi is not strong enough to compensate for how below Sasuke his base form was

Sasuke is God, anyone who denies it is a heretic feg.

only smart poster.

 

[KidGamer65]

The bold is not an assumption it does not take 10 years to master a dojutsu let alone 15. Has not shown any growth? slap yourself from the time Hagoromo gave him that chakra he has been getting stronger and stronger his Chidori from the last alone > anything who could do without susanoo at vote alone. Vaporizing a village size rock with an average chidori like it was nothing far surpasses his chidori that rsm naruto took 0 damage from at vote he clearly got stronger and they we're like 20 in the last move no where near they're prime which they are in now.

Irrelevant. Mastering the eye doesn't mean their jutsu will be on the same level. Makes zero sense. Rinnegan Madara and Rinnegan Sasuke can both master the Rinnegan, yet Sasuke's jutsu will always be on a higher scale if Madara doesn't have the Juubi bolstering his power. The rest is an assumption. You've only shown that The Last Sasuke>Manga Sasuke. You haven't shown that Adult Sasuke has grown strong enough to say that he's so much stronger than his The Last self to allow us to say he's stronger than Hagoromo, w/ or w/o the Juubi. Especially w/ the Juubi.

How in the world do you know sasuke did that? they're is to things wrong with your post 1 Sasuke's usage of Ameno cannot open portals at all so that kills him doing what obito did to begin with because he can only teleport. 2 you claim Sasuke did the same thing obito did yet a half dead obito and sakura could do that without exhausting chakra completely yet adult Sasuke was reduced to a ems level opponent who could not even use susanoo when he went to Her dimensions it does not add up sasuke clearly took the route Kaguya did or else he would not have even been effective by chakra loss if he truly used the obito and sakura method.

1. Irrelevant if he can open portals or not. He's only traveling through her dimensions. That is what he stated. That is what Obito has done so unless you or the Manga proves he can do more, that's it. That simple..

2. Obito wasn't half dead. He was revived fresh by Naruto. Sakura was at full power. They had to put their chakra together and they still barely made it. Sasuke has been continually searching through her dimensions looking for portals. Being reduced to 3-Tomoe and regular Rinnegan means jack shit when he still had plenty of chakra left, nor was he tired or fatigued like Obito and Sakura were while they were opening portals.

Your only proving my point if those 2 could open into her dimensions that way without exhausting completely Adult sasuke who chakra is skies above them would not even break a sweat doing that.

Obito's eyes were bleeding like a m'fer. Sakura almost passed out. That is exhausting. Point invalid.

How is he not stronger than Hagoromo? He knows all of rinnegan techs Jinless Hagz has no bijuu so no bijuu damas or any chakra cloaks whatsoever sasuke is like him but 2.0 His susanoo would squash him like a bug, the last Sasuke chidori was levels above VOTE2 Sasuke's if we level that into his susanoo thats puts the last Sasuke above VOTE2 Sasuke in thats only a 3 year time difference which makes the last sasuke 20 at the most still young and no where near his prime adult Sasuke is like 37 which is an ideal prime in ninja years considering Minato died at 27 and widely known that he did not reach his prime Madara Hashirama Ay Bee Kakashi Hiruzen etc. all those guys are example that 30-42 is an ideal prime age making this sasuke much stronger than his Last counter part. Furthermore Adult Sasuke talks about something being ever more scarier than Kaguya he did not act scared or even the least bit worried and even turned down Naruto's help when he asked meaning he has some believe he could be a match for whatever it is and Sasuke is no fool to challenge someone thats anywhere near Kaguya power levels alone if he was not tiers above his teenage self.

All irrelevant as it's all weak evidence for your claim. When you can show me that Gaiden Sasuke grew to the point where he'd crush Hagoromo like a bug, then we can talk. Not sure what is worse. You using Sasuke's reaction to a possible threat as evidence, or the whole Sasuke>JJ Hagoromo bullshit. Lmao.

The only thing I'd even begin to agree with is that VoTE Sasuke and Adult Sasuke are on the same tier, but even then it's a claim that can't be made given the events and feats that have been shown and occurred in the Gaiden. No way in hell is he strong enough to stomp or low diff Hagoromo w/o Juubi let alone with Juubi.

When you can show me that The Last Sasuke or Adult Sasuke have gotten strong enough to be equal with Hagoromo, then we can talk. Get that ">JJ Hagoromo" shit out of here.

this order is most correct

Kaguya => Adult Sasuke = Hokage Naruto (In shape) = > JJ Hagoromo > Hokage Naruto > The Last Sasuke & Naruto >
JJ Madara = VOTE 2 Naruto & Sasuke. Someone who is to blind by whatever kidgamer types to see anything read the op before you post clown.



Kaguya could not even murk VOTE2 Sasuke let alone a jinless Hagoromo who has no chance against Adult Sasuke get slapped. JJ Hago would suffer defeat Juubi is not strong enough to compensate for how below Sasuke his base form was

Your order is shitty. Your thread is shitty. Your posts are shitty. Sasuke and Naruto being stronger than JJ Hagoromo is probably the stupidest thing I've ever heard, especially when there is zero evidence to support it. But what did I expect. Sasuke fanboy till the day you die. This is almost as bad as when you claimed EMS Sasuke>EMS Madara w/ Kyuubi. LMAO. Then there's the "Toneri w/ Hagoromo's power low diffs Kaguya".

@bold: Are you mad?

 

[NarutoX28]

I would assume the highest level he might have reached is Base Hagoromo at this point, but I can't see him beating him when he has the Juubi Jin's power.

 

[KCMNaruto]

The bold is not an assumption it does not take 10 years to master a dojutsu let alone 15. Has not shown any growth? slap yourself from the time Hagoromo gave him that chakra he has been getting stronger and stronger his Chidori from the last alone > anything who could do without susanoo at vote alone. Vaporizing a village size rock with an average chidori like it was nothing far surpasses his chidori that rsm naruto took 0 damage from at vote he clearly got stronger and they we're like 20 in the last move no where near they're prime which they are in now.



How in the world do you know sasuke did that? they're is to things wrong with your post 1 Sasuke's usage of Ameno cannot open portals at all so that kills him doing what obito did to begin with because he can only teleport. 2 you claim Sasuke did the same thing obito did yet a half dead obito and sakura could do that without exhausting chakra completely yet adult Sasuke was reduced to a ems level opponent who could not even use susanoo when he went to Her dimensions it does not add up sasuke clearly took the route Kaguya did or else he would not have even been effective by chakra loss if he truly used the obito and sakura method.



Your only proving my point if those 2 could open into her dimensions that way without exhausting completely Adult sasuke who chakra is skies above them would not even break a sweat doing that.



How is he not stronger than Hagoromo? He knows all of rinnegan techs Jinless Hagz has no bijuu so no bijuu damas or any chakra cloaks whatsoever sasuke is like him but 2.0 His susanoo would squash him like a bug, the last Sasuke chidori was levels above VOTE2 Sasuke's if we level that into his susanoo thats puts the last Sasuke above VOTE2 Sasuke in thats only a 3 year time difference which makes the last sasuke 20 at the most still young and no where near his prime adult Sasuke is like 37 which is an ideal prime in ninja years considering Minato died at 27 and widely known that he did not reach his prime Madara Hashirama Ay Bee Kakashi Hiruzen etc. all those guys are example that 30-42 is an ideal prime age making this sasuke much stronger than his Last counter part. Furthermore Adult Sasuke talks about something being ever more scarier than Kaguya he did not act scared or even the least bit worried and even turned down Naruto's help when he asked meaning he has some believe he could be a match for whatever it is and Sasuke is no fool to challenge someone thats anywhere near Kaguya power levels alone if he was not tiers above his teenage self.



Bish stop You can have an excuse for naruto he's been busy being hokage and lost his edge but Sasuke skills are as sharp as ever. i laughed at Madara being where he was at, it was still implied that Naruto and Sasuke could defeat him in their weakest post Hagoromo powered up forms Kaguya who is largely ahead of Madara was defeated by them their VOTE2 forms are roughly equal to Madara even if we give him hypothetical feats.

this order is most correct

Kaguya => Adult Sasuke = Hokage Naruto (In shape) = > JJ Hagoromo > Hokage Naruto > The Last Sasuke & Naruto >
JJ Madara = VOTE 2 Naruto & Sasuke. Someone who is to blind by whatever kidgamer types to see anything read the op before you post clown.



Kaguya could not even murk VOTE2 Sasuke let alone a jinless Hagoromo who has no chance against Adult Sasuke get slapped. JJ Hago would suffer defeat Juubi is not strong enough to compensate for how below Sasuke his base form was



only smart poster.

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EDIT: It looks like I don't need anymore as KidGamer already did.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

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[EZQ]

I've told you this already, tell me the name of that manga you're reading, it sounds awesome.

 

[Fockboy]

hago takes his power back

 

[Unorthodox]

Irrelevant. Mastering the eye doesn't mean their jutsu will be on the same level. Makes zero sense. Rinnegan Madara and Rinnegan Sasuke can both master the Rinnegan, yet Sasuke's jutsu will always be on a higher scale if Madara doesn't have the Juubi bolstering his power. The rest is an assumption. You've only shown that The Last Sasuke>Manga Sasuke. You haven't shown that Adult Sasuke has grown strong enough to say that he's so much stronger than his The Last self to allow us to say he's stronger than Hagoromo, w/ or w/o the Juubi. Especially w/ the Juubi.

Using Madara as an example shows how pathetic your arguments really are why would you use a non rikudou character and compare him to rikudou level characters? Its like comparing Sasuke non perfect susanoo forms with ems to his rinnegan lower forms of susanoo. Hagoromo gave Sasuke half of his Chakra about 20 years until this adult Sasuke was shown we've seen Hagoromo's chakra mature with Sasuke's own chakra hence his chidori got so much stronger compared to when he first got Hago's chakra and used chidori indicating that his chakra in the last is superior to his chakra when he first got his powerup showing that got stronger overtime your Madara example was terrible as Madara chakra was fully matured so it would not grow stronger.

Nothing is an assumption Sasuke was not playing father or husband to Sarada or Sakura. infact he's been looking for some information about this thing that could be scarier than Kaguya keeping his skills up to par possibly bettering them knowing he may face someone of that power. So you mean to tell me he improved vastly from Vote to the Last yet somehow after that he became weaker going into his adult body knowing something that is like Kaguya could possibly be out there no your not making sense at all. You have not even shown me Hagoromo's power people give him to much credit for very little to be honest. I was using accurate comparisons the Naruto and Sasuke that fought and defeated Kaguya was parallel to Hamura and Hagoromo who defeated a juubi Kaguya (Possibly weaker than Kaguya herself).

Irrelevant if he can open portals or not. He's only traveling through her dimensions. That is what he stated. That is what Obito has done so unless you or the Manga proves he can do more, that's it. That simple

No its not irrelevant especially when we dont know how he got there your dumb assumption is to think he got there the way Obito did because it helps your argument. Obito could open portals so why could he not open them to different dimensions? Teleporting is completely different because 1 moves to a location instantly he cannot warp a hole into a realm then walk through it he traveling to her dimension would look similar to how Kaguya does it

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one moment she's in the gravity dimension the next she's in the rock dimension or whatever it was called that's how it would look for Sasuke to travel there not only does that make sense it would be the only way for an adult Sasuke to exhaust alot of chakra.

Obito wasn't half dead. He was revived fresh by Naruto. Sakura was at full power. They had to put their chakra together and they still barely made it. Sasuke has been continually searching through her dimensions looking for portals. Being reduced to 3-Tomoe and regular Rinnegan means jack shit when he still had plenty of chakra left, nor was he tired or fatigued like Obito and Sakura were while they were opening portals.

Your argument here is based off Obito and Sakura's chakra together being even comparable to Sasuke's which fails because when he first got the chakra Hags' chakra they're were comparable to juubi jin chakra levels which is much higher than the combination of Sakuras and Obitos, Obito and Sakura opened about 3 dimensions they're is only 7 that would not have Sasuke on a chakra cool down not even close especially at the age he is. Ofcouse he would not be fatigued his chakra level is tiers above they'res he was reduced to 3 tomoe sharingan and a tomoeless rinnegan and you say rinnegan as if it ever deactivates even after the vote fight Sasuke rinnegan tomoe's still remained intact

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meaning he exhausted more chakra looking through dimensions then he did at vote and his chakra as an adult > his chakra as a teenager so in a sense more chakra was used he was unable to use any form of susanoo which would have been useful against those little shuriken attacking sarada.

Obito's eyes were bleeding like a m'fer. Sakura almost passed out. That is exhausting. Point invalid.

Completely irrelevant considering them exhausting does not even = Sasuke breaking a sweat when it comes to chakra overuse.

All irrelevant as it's all weak evidence for your claim. When you can show me that Gaiden Sasuke grew to the point where he'd crush Hagoromo like a bug, then we can talk. Not sure what is worse. You using Sasuke's reaction to a possible threat as evidence, or the whole Sasuke>JJ Hagoromo bullshit. Lmao.

Obviously i cant show you because Adult Sasuke has not showed what his power look like when he's 100% but as i said before using a hypothesis Base Hagoromo would get smacked around Rinnegan = Rinnegan Perfect susanoo > defeats him now. Juubi does not fill the gap between them considering its stronger offensive attack with juubi prowess is a dama which requires a tree summoning which Sasuke definitely wont let happen. we can also scale his JJ form of attacks to be weaker than Kaguya's attack considering she was stronger than him.

The only thing I'd even begin to agree with is that VoTE Sasuke and Adult Sasuke are on the same tier, but even then it's a claim that can't be made given the events and feats that have been shown and occurred in the Gaiden. No way in hell is he strong enough to stomp or low diff Hagoromo w/o Juubi let alone with Juubi.

Vote and adult Sasuke are not in the same tier never once said that. Since we found out that Sasuke lacked his full power his feats that he used against shin was completely thrown out the window you even try to say when low on chakra kaguya could not advoid a blitz from naruto your word not mine. So we can agree that Sasuke's speed was slowed down.

When you can show me that The Last Sasuke or Adult Sasuke have gotten strong enough to be equal with Hagoromo, then we can talk. Get that ">JJ Hagoromo" shit out of here.

No one said the last sasuke was Hagoromo's level he's atleast Base Hagoromo level plus + and the difference between Last Sasuke and Vote Sasuke (without bijuus) is much smaller than the difference between Adult Sasuke and Last Sasuke

Your order is shitty. Your thread is shitty. Your posts are shitty. Sasuke and Naruto being stronger than JJ Hagoromo is probably the stupidest thing I've ever heard, especially when there is zero evidence to support it. But what did I expect. Sasuke fanboy till the day you die. This is almost as bad as when you claimed EMS Sasuke>EMS Madara w/ Kyuubi. LMAO. Then there's the "Toneri w/ Hagoromo's power low diffs Kaguya".
@bold: Are you mad?

No support your clearly ignorant to all the proof i provided but to each is own.

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

No, stop making useless threads

 

[Ansatsuken]

Sasuke never have same level of chakra as Kaguya

We still not knowing what kind of S/T tech that Sasuke possess, but I think its not Amenominaka or Yomotsu Hirasaka but dimensional teleporting that using Kaguya chakra traces as jumping point. I mean Sasuke somehow can sense the weaker dimensional barrier that he can traverse/pass into.

He tried to do this before but the dimensional barrier is to strong or he still unable to used his Rinnegan very well, thats why anything he does not work.

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But like Obito opening small portal or traversing(Yomotsu Hirasaka) inside Kaguya dimensions need large chakra reserve let alone changing dimensions(Amenominaka).

But for Sasuke he just traversing and not changing the dimension like OP think.

But to said his chakra is massive than non-juubi Hagoromo is to far as combined Hagoromo's chakra quantity inside Naruto and Sasuke is massive compared to combination of Sasuke own chakra reserve+half or nearly half Hagoromo chakra reserve.

Its like Non-JJ Hagoromo chakra is 100%

EMS Sasuke chakra reserve is 25% compared to 100% Hagoromo chakra reserve.

Thats mean EMS Sasuke full chakra before Rikudou power up is just 25% of Hagoromo's reserve.

Rikudou Sasuke=25%(his own reserve)+40%(Hagoromo chakra) make it 65% of Hagoromo's full reserve

While Rikudou Naruto

His own chakra plus Kurama and small amount of Bijuus chakra=40%(His overall chakra reserve)+40%(Hagoromo chakra) make it 80% of Hagoromo full reserve.

Above is just my assumption/speculation.

If it went like that you can see Rikudou Sasuke chakra still below non-JJ Hagoromo chakra reserve. I dont think Sasuke chakra reserve can/will grow larger when he turned adult unless he absorbing chakra.

His mastery over Rinnegan can get better so is his body strength but his chakra reserve will stayed the same.