Now that Naruto is so good at chakra tug

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Gee I wonder. :rolleyes:
 

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Bee is also great at chakra tug considering he taught it to Naruto. That doesn't stopped Kisame from absorbing his chakra. So i think it is irresistible just like preta path.
 

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Bee is also great at chakra tug considering he taught it to Naruto. That doesn't stopped Kisame from absorbing his chakra. So i think it is irresistible just like preta path.

I think so as well.
 

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Bee is also great at chakra tug considering he taught it to Naruto. That doesn't stopped Kisame from absorbing his chakra. So i think it is irresistible just like preta path.

You can't compare B to Naruto, it's like comparing Konohamaru to Hashirama. Naruto has too much chakra for Samehada to handle, it will die from over consumption or maybe NE
 

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You can't compare B to Naruto, it's like comparing Konohamaru to Hashirama. Naruto has too much chakra for Samehada to handle, it will die from over consumption or maybe NE

The swordsman would have to be a badass mofo to hit Naruto with Samehada anyways.
 

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You can't compare B to Naruto, it's like comparing Konohamaru to Hashirama. Naruto has too much chakra for Samehada to handle, it will die from over consumption or maybe NE

Agreed when Preta PAth pein absorbed Naruto's NE he turned to stone
 

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You can't compare B to Naruto, it's like comparing Konohamaru to Hashirama. Naruto has too much chakra for Samehada to handle, it will die from over consumption or maybe NE

Thread is about Samehada's ability to absorb Naruto's chakra. Can Naruto stop the process like he stopped Kurama taking his chakra in the chakra tug. And there is no reason it shouldn't. Whether it can handle natural energy or not completly depends of the user of Samehada.
 

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Thread is about Samehada's ability to absorb Naruto's chakra. Can Naruto stop the process like he stopped Kurama taking his chakra in the chakra tug. And there is no reason it shouldn't. Whether it can handle natural energy or not completly depends of the user of Samehada.

Nope, it doesn't depend on the user, it's a living being on it's own. It can't absorb NE and will therefore turn into stone if it does
 
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Nope, it doesn't depend on the user, it's a living being on it's own. It can't absorb NE and will therefore turn into stone if it does

Again he can't overwhelm the sword. It doesn't work that way. The user of the sword continuosly absorb the chakra from the sword, so that NE won't be remaining in the sword. Deciding factor regarding handling that chakra is solely up to the user of the sword. Which is not what this thread is about.

Secondly how can he resist the absorbing process if senjutsu chakra is flowing to the sword as you put it ? You're saying it works and it doesn't. Which is confusing.
 

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Again he can't overwhelm the sword. It doesn't work that way. The user of the sword continuosly absorb the chakra from the sword, so that NE won't be remaining in the sword. Deciding factor regarding handling that chakra is solely up to the user of the sword. Which is not what this thread is about.

Secondly how can he resist the absorbing process if senjutsu chakra is flowing to the sword as you put it ? You're saying it works and it doesn't. Which is confusing.

I have to disagree, there's obviously a limit to what Samehada can absorb, it's all about perspective. Do you think it would be capable of absorbing Juubi's chakra ? Considering how overwhelming it was sensing it alone what do you think it would be like trying to absorb it ?

Naruto was able to focus enough energy capable of blowing up a piece of the moon, what do you think it would do to an object of Samehada's size ? That's why jutsu like Preta and Wooden Dragon exist, Samehada is nowhere near those type of absorption jutsus, and even then Edo Madara had trouble absorbing FRS proving that absorptions jutsus do have limits.

I'm saying Samehada can't resist the effects of NE because it can't control Senjutsu, it will obviously turn into stone.

The sword is designed to absorb energy from individuals like Kisame and Raikage who have bijuu levels of chakra but nowhere near Kurama let alone BSM Naruto..
 

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I have to disagree, there's obviously a limit to what Samehada can absorb, it's all about perspective. Do you think it would be capable of absorbing Juubi's chakra ? Considering how overwhelming it was sensing it alone what do you think it would be like trying to absorb it ?

Naruto was able to focus enough energy capable of blowing up a piece of the moon, what do you think it would do to an object of Samehada's size ? That's why jutsu like Preta and Wooden Dragon exist, Samehada is nowhere near those type of absorption jutsus, and even then Edo Madara had trouble absorbing FRS proving that absorptions jutsus do have limits.

I'm saying Samehada can't resist the effects of NE because it can't control Senjutsu, it will obviously turn into stone.

The sword is designed to absorb energy from individuals like Kisame and Raikage who have bijuu levels of chakra but nowhere near Kurama let alone BSM Naruto..

I agree. Samehada showed that it could only take certain amounts of Gyuki's Chakra so there's a obvious limit to its power. Nature energy would definitely turn it to stone too.
 

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Nope, it doesn't depend on the user, it's a living being on it's own. It can't absorb NE and will therefore turn into stone if it does

RSM isn't nature energy but rikudou energy. Even kakashi could control that his first time around. I do not think rikudou energy has any such side effects as normal sage mode.
 

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Samehada just eat some much charka it will become the mountain size sword.. lol it eat any sort of charka as long as it not fire based
 

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RSM isn't nature energy but rikudou energy. Even kakashi could control that his first time around. I do not think rikudou energy has any such side effects as normal sage mode.

RSM is Rikudou chakra under the influence of NE, it's just Sage Mode with Hagoromo's energy. Kakashi controlled Rikudou chakra because he had experience with MS and more importantly because Obito's chakra wasn't Sage Mode chakra
 
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RSM is Rikudou chakra under the influence of NE, it's just Sage Mode with Hagoromo's energy. Kakashi controlled Rikudou chakra because he had experience with MS and more importantly because Obito's chakra wasn't Sage Mode chakra

RSM is not rikudou chakra under influence of NE. It is simply Kurama chakra + Rikudou chakra. NE is optional.
 

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RSM is not rikudou chakra under influence of NE. It is simply Kurama chakra + Rikudou chakra. NE is optional.

No, Naruto's chakra turns into Rikudou chakra when he absorbs enough NE to mix with his BM. Without NE there's no RSM only BM
 

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No, Naruto's chakra turns into Rikudou chakra when he absorbs enough NE to mix with his BM. Without NE there's no RSM only BM

Naruto's Rikudou chakra is inbuilt because Rikudou Senjutsu is inbuilt(juubidara, juubito, Naruto). Doesn't have to absorb NE to do it. NE just gives him more sage energy. Right after naruto comes out from meeting the sage, he is in SM(rikudou form without pigmentation). He can also choose to go normal SM(without pigmentation). BM has nothing to do with it. Maybe it's because he had all the bijuu chakra. Juubi chakra is essentially rikudou senjutsu. It was mentioned in the manga.
 

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Naruto's Rikudou chakra is inbuilt because Rikudou Senjutsu is inbuilt(juubidara, juubito, Naruto). Doesn't have to absorb NE to do it. NE just gives him more sage energy. Right after naruto comes out from meeting the sage, he is in SM(rikudou form without pigmentation). He can also choose to go normal SM(without pigmentation). BM has nothing to do with it. Maybe it's because he had all the bijuu chakra. Juubi chakra is essentially rikudou senjutsu. It was mentioned in the manga.

I'm not denying he has Hagoromo's chakra, but it isn't Rikudou Senjutsu until he absorbs NE, he can either use BM or SM separaetely but both modes rely on each other to use Rikudou jutsu. Without that there's no Juubi power, the Juubi itself is made of NE, RSM is a JuubiJin power.

Also, Indra has the strong chakra genese, hence why he had consistent chakra since birth, while Ashura has to work to gain a Indra's level, the concept applies to their powers.

Sasuke's base mode is naturally strong (Rinnegan) and only has to work little to gain full power (6T + right MS). Meanwhile, Naruto has strong chakra in base mode, but still need to rely on outside help (NE/bijuu) to reach Indra's full power.
 
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