War arc Kakashi vs Itachi

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Given the fact that he already lost an arm against garra and nothing came out of it I don't see that happening.


Sounds like your reaching to me.

Lml still don't know why you find it relevant if he has intel on it when you already agreed that it's natural for Itachi to use Karsu Bunshins as a precaution. Kamui is unviable as long as Itachi can take advantage of Kakashi's inability to notice Itachi's bunshins.
Edit: Guy above me just pwned, very reaching bru
 

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Lml still don't know why you find it relevant if he has intel on it when you already agreed that it's natural for Itachi to use Karsu Bunshins as a precaution. Kamui is unviable as long as Itachi can take advantage of Kakashi's inability to notice Itachi's bunshins.
Edit: Guy above me just pwned, very reaching bru

It's no fun debating when not even a single ounce of overreaching is involved.
 

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Yata reflects any jutsu. So if Kakashi tries to snipe, jutsu will reflect on his head and he will snipe himself instead.

Considering Kakashi is a smart man, he'll know he has no chance with close combat or range combat. He'll give in and beg mercy instantly.
 

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Yata reflects any jutsu. So if Kakashi tries to snipe, jutsu will reflect on his head and he will snipe himself instead.

Considering Kakashi is a smart man, he'll know he has no chance with close combat or range combat. He'll give in and beg mercy instantly.

:lmao:

Gotta admit, that gave me a good laugh.
 

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I don't know. This scan seems to imply that Nagato did have some sort of knowledge on Kakashi's Kamui as he didn't seem to be shocked at Kakashi's ability to warp objects rather that he managed to survive because of it and had the chakra required to protect Chouji.

Nope. That scan implies he used it to keep himself alive (warping the nail) after prior to saving choji (warping the missile).

And I'm not sure if you glazed over the exclamation point in the middle panel but I'll tell you what it means:

!=Some comic books, especially superhero comics of the mid-20th century, routinely use the exclamation point instead of the period, which means the character has just realized something.

-Wikipedia With links at the bottom.


Lml still don't know why you find it relevant if he has intel on it when you already agreed that it's natural for Itachi to use Karsu Bunshins as a precaution.
it dosen't change his lack of knowledge on the technique. You can set up precautions against things you don't know but it wont change you not knowing.

Kamui is unviable as long as Itachi can take advantage of Kakashi's inability to notice Itachi's bunshins.
Itachi uses Karasu Bunshin which kakashi will see though.

Edit: Guy above me just pwned, very reaching bru
sure he did. Now let's wait for him to scratch his own balls.


It's no fun debating when not even a single ounce of overreaching is involved.

There we go.
 

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it dosen't change his lack of knowledge on the technique. You can set up precautions against things you don't know but it wont change you not knowing.

Itachi uses Karasu Bunshin which kakashi will see though.

sure he did. Now let's wait for him to scratch his own balls.

How exactly will Kakashi see through Karasu Bunshin when Sasuke in CM couldn't notice them, let alone see through them? Itachi still has the ability to block Kakashi's LoS with Katons, and Kakashi still doesn't know Itachi has Amateratsu.

And lmfaoo
 

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How exactly will Kakashi see through Karasu Bunshin when Sasuke in CM couldn't notice them, let alone see through them?

And lmfaoo

Karasu Bunshin use less chakra than regular bunshin therfore sharingan can pick up the difference In levels.

Sasuke never got fooled by itachi's bunshins. he only misses when Itachi makes then.
 

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it's truly 50/50...! both are very perceptive and skilled shinobi...! whoever makes the 1st mistakes loses...! can't decide between them...
 

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Even if only his head is warped?
Yeah.. considering he can regenerate plus carries dangerous doujutsus in his eye; Kakashi said earlier to Gaara that they cant afford mistakes when it comes to revive Naruto and Maddys head would've been a huge risk in the process.
 

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Karasu Bunshin use less chakra than regular bunshin therfore sharingan can pick up the difference In levels.

Sasuke never got fooled by itachi's bunshins. he only misses when Itachi makes then.

Fair enough, Itachi would lose if he did that. Change that for Kage Bunshins then, since Itachi has those too.
 

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Yata reflects any jutsu. So if Kakashi tries to snipe, jutsu will reflect on his head and he will snipe himself instead.

Considering Kakashi is a smart man, he'll know he has no chance with close combat or range combat. He'll give in and beg mercy instantly.

Please no more Yata bullshit. Its been fun for many years but the joke has to end at some point.

Kamui gg
 

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Fair enough, Itachi would lose if he did that. Change that for Kage Bunshins then, since Itachi has those too.

And here's where his lack of complete knowledge comes into play.

You much like itachi uses Karasu as the go to, instant precaution. in near all of his fights regardless of intel he uses so with no solid knowledge on kamui I don't think he'd switch to kage bunshin. After all he has no reason to.
 

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And here's where his lack of complete knowledge comes into play.

You much like itachi uses Karasu as the go to, instant precaution. in near all of his fights regardless of intel he uses so with no solid knowledge on kamui I don't think he'd switch to kage bunshin. After all he has no reason to.

Lol, nope. Itachi would know that his Karasu Bunshin can be seen through by another Sharingan user, he's not an idiot. It's not a precaution when he's not furthering his own demise. Kage Bunshin would be the obvious way to go if trying to counter an offensive MS ability.
 

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Please no more Yata bullshit. Its been fun for many years but the joke has to end at some point.

Kamui gg

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I know it hurts and sounds ridiculously overpowered.. But manga fact is manga fact. You need to accept it, let it inside slowly but steadily. Only than your butt can be free of hurt :bdpf:
 

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Nope. That scan implies he used it to keep himself alive (warping the nail) after prior to saving choji (warping the missile).

Yet there is no indication that Kakashi's ability to warp objects came off as a surprise to him. If it were, you'd think Nagato would've shown shock and questioned that his powers were capable of warping yet that never happened here.

And I'm not sure if you glazed over the exclamation point in the middle panel but I'll tell you what it means:

!=Some comic books, especially superhero comics of the mid-20th century, routinely use the exclamation point instead of the period, which means the character has just realized something.

-Wikipedia With links at the bottom.

I didn't. His exclamation mark was in regards to Kakashi using his technique to save his life earlier. It had nothing to do with Nagato being surprised at the fact that Kakashi can warp objects or that would've been implied.

sure he did. Now let's wait for him to scratch his own balls.

Already did and I'm enjoyin' it. :lmao:
 

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Lol, nope. Itachi would know that his Karasu Bunshin can be seen through by another Sharingan user, he's not an idiot. It's not a precaution when he's not furthering his own demise. Kage Bunshin would be the obvious way to go if trying to counter an offensive MS ability.

again he dosen't know that. You tried to reach and say itachi can put two and two together on how he lost it but if itachi failed to do it the first time deidara lost an arm, how is he going to figure out the second time?

Itachi doesn't even know what opponent deidara fought(8 possibilities mind you) let alone how he lost it.

Yet you're trying to say itachi knows deidara fought kakashi (1/8 chance) and knows Kakashi used his ms to cause the damage to his arm? (idk the chances of that)


You're reaching across the earth with that one.


Yet there is no indication that Kakashi's ability to warp objects came off as a surprise to him.
the exclamation mark is the indication.
If it were, you'd think Nagato would've shown shock and questioned that his powers were capable of warping yet that never happened here.
He did show shock. Middle panel on the right. Then he puts two and two together figuring out how he survived the nail.



I didn't. His exclamation mark was in regards to Kakashi using his technique to save his life earlier.
nope. The it was in regards to kakashi saving choji via warping objects.
It had nothing to do with Nagato being surprised at the fact that Kakashi can warp objects or that would've been implied.
it was implied by him looking back at (and now figuring out) how he survived the nail.



Already did and I'm enjoyin' it. :lmao:
I'm glad you do.
 
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Itachi and Kisame attempted to delay Team Kakashi and Team Gai from intercepting Deidara and Sasori. You honestly think Itachi wouldn't take into consideration of the idea that Deidara faced Kakashi?
 

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again he dosen't know that. You tried to reach and say itachi can put two and two together on how he lost it but if itachi failed to do it the first time deidara lost an arm, how is he going to figure out the second time?

Look at it this way, every MS ability we know of has an offensive ability. Knowing that, he'd create the Kage Bunshin as a precaution since Kakashi obviously intends to do something after activating his MS.

Itachi doesn't even know what opponent deidara fought(8 possibilities mind you) let alone how he lost it.

Matters naught,

Yet you're trying to say itachi knows deidara fought kakashi (1/8 chance) and knows Kakashi used his ms to cause the damage to his arm? (idk the chances of that)


You're reaching across the earth with that one.

Doesn't matter. All that matters is that Kage Bunshin would in fact act as a precautionary step to Kakashi's obvious activation of MS. Knowing Kakashi can see through Karasu means he uses Kage Bunshin. Period.
 

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Look at it this way, every MS ability we know of has an offensive ability.
obito's is defensive, Madara's speculated ms ability(see through all clones) can be considered defensive, and kabuto already made it clear that even the best offense can be used as defense.
Knowing that, he'd create the Kage Bunshin as a precaution since Kakashi obviously intends to do something after activating his MS.
maybe his ms ( since Itachi dosen't know) is defesive, after all to the best of his knowledge kakashi's ms has no ties to deidaras arm.



Matters naught,
what? Lmao. Bruh how does itachi not knowing who deidara fought not matter?



Doesn't matter. All that matters is that Kage Bunshin would in fact act as a precautionary step to Kakashi's obvious activation of MS.
so would Karasu Bunshin, but Karasu Bunshin makes more sense since its his go to clone. It's IC for him to use it over kage since:

A) costs less chakra
B) provides distraction upon poofing.
Knowing Kakashi can see through Karasu means he uses Kage Bunshin. Period.
He knew sasuke can see through Karasu and still used kurasu. Period.
 

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Itachi wins this
 
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