As I said shared vision was useless since Kakashi hid form Deva's LoS (Line of Sight).
Nagato being a sensor doesn't mean that Deva is a sensor as well & there's no evidence that Nagato can sense Chakra from where he was during the pain invasion.
Actually, I reread the fight and Shared Vision was never a factor. Not that it degrades my argument. If anything, you help mine as Nagato couldn't detect Kakashi's Doton + Bushin feint, the same way that Itachi couldn't even with Precognition and intelligence that outclasses almost anyone's in the manga.
There's also no evidence why Nagato can't sense at all if the Paths are in Konoha and that's such a bold claim. All that's implied is that Deva Path's abilities were hindered at the distance he was away from Nagato. His sensing capabilities were never hindered and the amount of chakra Deva Path can receive never was based on the distance he was away to begin with, so why would sensing be any different? You're just grasping straws. Not to mention that Minato's not a passive sensor and must keep it activated which he doesn't in a fight.
What? Minato's sensory abilities works the same way as any sensor except he's much more skilled.
Yeah, no. Minato has to actually activate his sensing capabilities which means things can easily go unnoticed. She couldn't even detect Bee's location after his Shunshin until after she activated her sensing. Why would Minato activate his sensing when he himself will believe he has nothing to sense for to begin with? Kakashi's a master of bushin feints and has managed to do so against both Itachi and Kisame, so the probability of him using a clone that Minato would be able to perceive to begin with is very slim.
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He was totally outclassed in speed. It doesn't even hurt him here if Kisame could perceive his movements as he's very reflexive to begin with.
Naruto has superb reflexes,striking & foot speed only a retard would deny that but his body movements aren't fast = he's not physically fast (like gate users)
If his body movements aren't fast, then why are his reflexes superb? That honestly doesn't make any sense.
Again being unable to notice a Kunai flicked to your blindspot has nothing to do with knowledge it could be a normal Kunai, Minato just threw it so fast that Ay couldn't notice
Actually Raiton enhanced Raikage has comparable reflexes to Minato, base Raikage is not fast by any means.
Base Bee is a Kage level speedster who outclasses Hebi Sasuke who's also a Kage level speedster. Base Ei is far more adept in Shunshin than Base Bee and also managed to choke White Zetsu who believed he could waltz in a room full of Kages without being harmed. That's a notable speed feat. Also keep in mind that Base Bee can instantaneously Shunshin to the other side of a mountain without Taka Sasuke even detecting it and Base Ei's Shunshin is far faster. Base Raikage is fast and he's easily one of the best Kage Level speedsters out there.
Minato was analysing Obito's ability hence him commenting that sticking to Obito has a high risk, he got tagged intentionally to figure out Kamui's mechanism & weakness.
I'm aware of that, but even after that attempt, his striking speed was shown to be inferior.
However, I was referring to this situation here:
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Their clash heavily implies that Obito was the winner as he was capable of striking Minato before Minato could even reach him with his Rasengan, however, Obito was overwhelmed in speed thanks to Hiraishin which proved to be a sufficient counter to Kamui, and that Obito had very little knowledge on it to begin with.
Of course Obito is not as reflexive as Juubidara he just had the mental reaction to activate Intangibility.
I'm not using Minato's feat with FTG (dodging Ay's fastest attack) to claim he's on par with Ay.
DB4 said Minato & Ay are on par in speed & since it's ridiculous to think Ay = FTG that means base Minato is on par with Ay.
Minato and Ei are on par with speed due to Minato's Hiraishin. That's evident as KCM Naruto is claimed to be on par with his speed and is stated to be comparable Minato's Yellow Flash which was implied by Bee. Keep in mind that Bee had likely not even witnessed Minato's Shunshin, esp. with Ei getting involved in their battles multiple times.
Hell, please explain to me why Minato couldn't Shunshin blitz Young Obito, while Ei nearly Shunshin blitz'd a more reflexive Obito from a farther distance as shown here:
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Keep in mind that Obito only managed to perceive his speed once he was a couple inches from his face along with the fact that Ei never used Bijuu Level Shunshin to accomplish this. That's far superior to Minato failing to pressure Young Obito with his speed. It's clear that RCM Raikage is the faster of the two.
