[Gen] Are the Chimes Real? - Sensei EdwardSama

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Oh geez.. :sweat:

So it is illusion arts!!! A lot of cool users of this in the anime were Itachi, Sasuke, Kurenai, Danzo (kind of :p) and... basically any Uchiha! This type of art makes the target see an illusion that is not actually happening, but the person thinks it is. Just like in the Itachi and Sasuke fight, Itachi makes Sasuke believe he has killed him many times but actually it was all just an illusion. Itachi was watching him the entire time. Hmm, it can also put people to sleep like it did in the Chunin exams!! Sakura had to wake up a lot of people by performing some technique. I dont know what else to include. XD
 

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Alright, I will go into more details, since you missed some key points ;p. There are two types of illusions, active ones that require chakra and passive genjutsus. They are like environmental and visual illusions, basically ones that affect the senses and are generally easier to escape. Active genjutsus include those from Sharingan, normal genjutsu, and sound genjutsu- these are more complicated and harder to deduce because they are generally more advanced and can even manipulate multiple senses. To successfully cast an illusion, you would need to gain control of the enemy's chakra flow in their cerebral nervous system, through your chakra obviously, which would allow you to affect one, or multiple senses out of the five senses. It is generally not a popular area of ninjutsu, but some like Uchiha's, or Kurama clan's are wellrenowned for their extremely advanced genjutsu usages. There are layered genjutsus, where breaking the first illusion will lead to a second one and is more complicated than a normal illusion because they mix two illusions into one. When creating layered illusions, you'd need to use the higher rank first to make sure both illusions are set in place, otherwise only the stronger illusion will be created.


Now, tell me how you one could dispel an illusion.
 

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Alright, I will go into more details, since you missed some key points ;p. There are two types of illusions, active ones that require chakra and passive genjutsus. They are like environmental and visual illusions, basically ones that affect the senses and are generally easier to escape. Active genjutsus include those from Sharingan, normal genjutsu, and sound genjutsu- these are more complicated and harder to deduce because they are generally more advanced and can even manipulate multiple senses. To successfully cast an illusion, you would need to gain control of the enemy's chakra flow in their cerebral nervous system, through your chakra obviously, which would allow you to affect one, or multiple senses out of the five senses. It is generally not a popular area of ninjutsu, but some like Uchiha's, or Kurama clan's are wellrenowned for their extremely advanced genjutsu usages. There are layered genjutsus, where breaking the first illusion will lead to a second one and is more complicated than a normal illusion because they mix two illusions into one. When creating layered illusions, you'd need to use the higher rank first to make sure both illusions are set in place, otherwise only the stronger illusion will be created.


Now, tell me how you one could dispel an illusion.
"YES!! I understand, sensei", says Chime.

Well I do know that Sakura used that technique to wake up Naruto. After looking it up, I know it is called Kai. Also a shinobi can use pain to release an illusion. I have been aroun and stalked plenty of threads so I have learned some things. A shinobi can use a full-body surge but I do not know exactly what that is.. I just hear people say it. XD
 

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To properly dispel an illusion, you need to figure out that you are actually in an illusion. This is down in two different ways. The first is the easiest- notice the fluctuation and the abnormal flow of your chakra. This is generally done through sensing techniques, like Dojutsu. The second one is more complicated and it is relying on your senses and using reasoning to figure out the abnormalities caused by the illusions. For example, if you see a giant flame fist coming your way in an illusion, and the illusion explicitly describes that it only affects the visuals, then you could reason that you did not feel the heat across your face. It is basically using reason to point out the differences from what real life is supposed to be, and what is happening in an illusion. This is more risky, however, because there is always a chance that you may get it wrong. For this training, we'll be practicing how you dispel an illusion through reasoning for each technique

We know of Kai, to disrupt your normal flow of chakra. Oh, these kinds of Genjutsu disruptor can also be performed to someone which is pretty useful in team fights. Some clans are naturally immune to Illusions though, like the Nekura Clan. Natural energy can disrupt an illusion, through Sage Mode, or Curse Mark activations. Some clans cannot use pain to disrupt an illusion for the most part, like Kaguyas because they are naturally used to pain and have developed a high tolerance for pain.

Another way is through Pain. Pain, if high enough, can "snap" you out of an illusion.

D Rank Genjutsu: Chipping a Finger (like one does as he bites to draw blood for a Summoning Jutsu)
C Rank Genjutsu: Low level Physical Attacks, Bitting a chunk of your Cheek
B Rank Genjutsu: Low ranked Taijutsu/Freestyle
A Rank Genjutsu: High ranked Taijutsu, Stabbing Yourself in minor muscle, Cutting yourself, Breaking Smaller bones, Low level Burning/Voltage, Painful Cold
S Rank Genjutsu: EIG/Sage level Taijutsu, Breaking Bones, Deep Stabs or cuts, Medium Voltage/Burning, Extreme Painful Cold, Bitting your tongue off
And lastly, a full-body surge can disrupt an illusion and fend off foreign chakra from the enemy. Full-body surges are techniques that release chakra from all your chakra points, thus disrupting the abnormal flow and fending off the foreign chakra, sanctimoniously returning your chakra back to normal.

Okay, questions before we begin the real training?
 

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To properly dispel an illusion, you need to figure out that you are actually in an illusion. This is down in two different ways. The first is the easiest- notice the fluctuation and the abnormal flow of your chakra. This is generally done through sensing techniques, like Dojutsu. The second one is more complicated and it is relying on your senses and using reasoning to figure out the abnormalities caused by the illusions. For example, if you see a giant flame fist coming your way in an illusion, and the illusion explicitly describes that it only affects the visuals, then you could reason that you did not feel the heat across your face. It is basically using reason to point out the differences from what real life is supposed to be, and what is happening in an illusion. This is more risky, however, because there is always a chance that you may get it wrong. For this training, we'll be practicing how you dispel an illusion through reasoning for each technique

We know of Kai, to disrupt your normal flow of chakra. Oh, these kinds of Genjutsu disruptor can also be performed to someone which is pretty useful in team fights. Some clans are naturally immune to Illusions though, like the Nekura Clan. Natural energy can disrupt an illusion, through Sage Mode, or Curse Mark activations. Some clans cannot use pain to disrupt an illusion for the most part, like Kaguyas because they are naturally used to pain and have developed a high tolerance for pain.

Another way is through Pain. Pain, if high enough, can "snap" you out of an illusion.



And lastly, a full-body surge can disrupt an illusion and fend off foreign chakra from the enemy. Full-body surges are techniques that release chakra from all your chakra points, thus disrupting the abnormal flow and fending off the foreign chakra, sanctimoniously returning your chakra back to normal.

Okay, questions before we begin the real training?
No, it makes sense. I just have to know I am in an illusion before I can get out of it. The rest seems easy enough as well :) Thank you for explaining a full body release.
 

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Alright let's continue with the actual training :p

I'll try speeding things up from now.

( Magen: Kokoni Arazu no Jutsu ) - Demonic Illusion: False Surroundings Technique
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 10 (+5 if you use it double)
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user casts an illusion over an area that allows him to manipulate the way an area looks to fool an opponent. He can only change the way the terrain looks, and not any other feature.
Alright first illusionary technique is one of the most simple one. Though the usefulness of it depends on how you use it. It requires no hand seals, therefore there is no way of knowing that an illusion was cast right off the bat. Send chakra to your enemy's chakra system which would cause it to disrupt the chakra system. Take control of the vision/eye area of the brain, and manipulate it so that you can alter the target's vision. You can change how the terrain looks, like make a sea of grass into a sea of water, however, it is only limited to visual senses. So, if you were to make the terrain into flames, then they'd only see flames, not feel the fire which would allow them to notice that an illusion is in play. You're only allowed to change how a terrain looks, and nothing else.

Because all genjutsus are essentially performed the same, we won't be performing each jutsu. Instead, for this one, I'd like you to give me creative usages and questions if you have them.
 

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Alright let's continue with the actual training :p

I'll try speeding things up from now.



Alright first illusionary technique is one of the most simple one. Though the usefulness of it depends on how you use it. It requires no hand seals, therefore there is no way of knowing that an illusion was cast right off the bat. Send chakra to your enemy's chakra system which would cause it to disrupt the chakra system. Take control of the vision/eye area of the brain, and manipulate it so that you can alter the target's vision. You can change how the terrain looks, like make a sea of grass into a sea of water, however, it is only limited to visual senses. So, if you were to make the terrain into flames, then they'd only see flames, not feel the fire which would allow them to notice that an illusion is in play. You're only allowed to change how a terrain looks, and nothing else.

Because all genjutsus are essentially performed the same, we won't be performing each jutsu. Instead, for this one, I'd like you to give me creative usages and questions if you have them.
Okay I have questions!! Does terrain also mean the sky? So can I turn the sky black, red, or yellow? Can I place objects on the terrain such as a tree or boulder?
 

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Nope, terrain does not include the sky. It's only the physical surface of the battlefield, like a lake, boulders, etc.
Yes, you can. but these objects would be illusionary o-o

How would you use it?
 

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Nope, terrain does not include the sky. It's only the physical surface of the battlefield, like a lake, boulders, etc.
Yes, you can. but these objects would be illusionary o-o

How would you use it?
Well if I can place boulders, I could make a lot of boulders rise from the ground so it doesn't look like they just appeared. xD Then I could use this boulder as cover to move behind my opponent with a technique that travels through the earth. Then I could attack him from behind with a sword
 

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Ah, however, you're unable to make it rise up as if it were an earth technique. It just sort of replaces the real life terrain with another o-o kinda appearing out of no where, you know what i mean? ,_.
( Genjutsu: Kahen Tonsou ) - Illusion Technique: Flower Petal Escape
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 10
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user makes five handseals, appearing to dissolve into a shower of cherry blossom petals. These petals surround the opponent, blocking his vision. This allows the user to mask his movement effectively.
Moving on. These five hand seals are needed for the next technique. It is also a visual based technique, thus it is easily noticed as a genjutsu. Simply perform the five hand seals and send chakra to my chakra system. The illusion itself is easy to understand. For the target, he would see you disperse into a shower of cherry blossom petals, which then surrounds the enemy to hinder their vision completely. This allows you to follow up with a whole set of combinations because the target would be unable to see you.

How would you figure out that it is an illusion? how would you use it in terms of combinations?
 

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Ah, however, you're unable to make it rise up as if it were an earth technique. It just sort of replaces the real life terrain with another o-o kinda appearing out of no where, you know what i mean? ,_.


Moving on. These five hand seals are needed for the next technique. It is also a visual based technique, thus it is easily noticed as a genjutsu. Simply perform the five hand seals and send chakra to my chakra system. The illusion itself is easy to understand. For the target, he would see you disperse into a shower of cherry blossom petals, which then surrounds the enemy to hinder their vision completely. This allows you to follow up with a whole set of combinations because the target would be unable to see you.

How would you figure out that it is an illusion? how would you use it in terms of combinations?
I channel my chakra and then perform the required jutsu signs. After I do this I send my chakra into your clone's chakra system. By doing this I take control of his reality. By manipulating his senses I make myself disperse into a shower of cherry blossoms. The blossoms then go and around your clone to disrupt his sight.

Well obviously my opponent cannot disappear into flowers petals which then surround me, so that is an easy way to tell. I could use this and then something like weapons to throw. So I could throw a lot of shuriken at him when his vision is blocked.
 

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( Genjutsu: Kasumi ) - Illusion Technique: Servant
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Description: The user does one handseal and throws a paper bomb at the enemy. The enemy, trapped in a genjutsu will see a clone of the user advancing upon him. As the paper bomb reaches the enemy, it explodes
You basically take out a paper tag - an explosive weapon that is used mostly with ninjutsu and assassinations, but can be applied in genjutsu as well. Perform a single handseal and send your chakra into the targets' chakra system, disrupting it at the same time allowing you to cast an illusion. Right after, throw the paper bomb towards the enemy. To the target, they would see a clone approaching at the speed of the paper bomb, and the paper bomb explodes once it reaches the enemy, or it can explode through a single hand seal, since it is merely a paper tag.

How would you use this in battle?
Also, how would you deduce it as an illusion?
 

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You basically take out a paper tag - an explosive weapon that is used mostly with ninjutsu and assassinations, but can be applied in genjutsu as well. Perform a single handseal and send your chakra into the targets' chakra system, disrupting it at the same time allowing you to cast an illusion. Right after, throw the paper bomb towards the enemy. To the target, they would see a clone approaching at the speed of the paper bomb, and the paper bomb explodes once it reaches the enemy, or it can explode through a single hand seal, since it is merely a paper tag.

How would you use this in battle?
Also, how would you deduce it as an illusion?
I take out a paper tag, and then perform a jutsu sign. My chakra is then focused towards your clone, where it enters his nervous system and makes him fall into this illusion. I then throw the paper bomb towards him, but he actually sees a clone coming after him instead. Once the tag is pretty close, I perform a single jutsu sign and detonate the tag. :)

I would use this when the opponent could not see me, such as smoke or mist. I can use this jutsu when im hidden, and then act like the clone is really me. I could then attack with a better jutsu :)

Well if he removes the paper tag first I can tell when it changes into a clone. I could also use the motion of him throwing sometihng, but suddenly a clone appears instead. The hand seal is also a sign. :)
 

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Nice :)

( Kasumi Jūsha no Jutsu ) - Mist Servant Technique
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost:10
Damage Points: N/A
Description: This illusion creates numerous illusionary clones of the user that appear to emerge from the ground, trees, rocks, etc. If these clones are attacked, they appear to multiply. The user can co-ordinate his attacks with the clones to make it appear as if they are real.
This technique allows you to create numerous illusionary clones anywhere - from the ground, to the trees, and even at impossible angles. It acts as a distraction by making it seem like they are real close, when really, they are intangible. If they are struct, they appear to split in half and you can use this to co-ordinate attacks by, for example, throwing a kunai from behind an illusionary clone to make it seem like that clone was a real entity that actually attacked you.

How would you use this in battle (combinations?) and how would you find out it is an illusion?
 
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