Hashirama's tissue

[VongolaX]

I was discussing matters with a fellow member about Sarada and what she is genetically predestined for.
Some other things came up and a comparison was made.

One thing lead to the other blah blah blah, you get how things go.
(Here's the thread btw:

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Until finally, we arrived at an issue about Hashirama tissue giving you considerable amount of strength because of this:

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Now Hashirama tissue doesn't give you super strength, because Danzo got his senju arm chopped off by Sasuke:

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And white zetsu also got diced by both swords during the war.

Even Madara's arm was punctured by Sasuke's sword.

So Hashirama tissue is not the case here.

My stand on where the strength came from is in the thread^^

Now say you.

Do you really believe Hashirama tissue gives you super strength?

It clearly doesn't because all other Hashi tissue holders don't have it.

 

[Madara the Solo King]

No Hashi's tissue does not give you super strength because Danzo did not know how to control it but it gave Madara insame amount of power, enough to be a Juubi Jin.

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

It worked for Madara since it was a love bite.

 

[Angelic.]

thats just obitos coolness

its kinda weird that obito ripped his own arm off but can tank swords lol. well his hand does the solo jab ^.^

 

[FreakensteinAG]

Hashirama's tissue may be able to give users an imperfect control over sharingan as was the case with Danzo, but in every other case, it should do nothing. It brought Madara incredible amounts of power only because he and Hashirama were transmigrants of Ashura and Indra.

 

[VongolaX]

thats just obitos coolness

its kinda weird that obito ripped his own arm off but can tank swords lol. well his hand does the solo jab ^.^

I already stated his strength comes from something else.

He's the only guy to not end up like Danzo or madara

Hashirama's tissue may be able to give users an imperfect control over sharingan as was the case with Danzo, but in every other case, it should do nothing. It brought Madara incredible amounts of power only because he and Hashirama were transmigrants of Ashura and Indra.

Madara did not have super strength, he had increased healing from the tissue.
He couldn't one arm Sasuke's sword and he got ragdolled by bijuus.

 

[rollin]

it boosts physical energies

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[SenseiSama]

It does grant super strength if you can control it which Danzo couldn't

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But Sasuke cuts through JuubiJins

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[VongolaX]

It does grant super strength if you can control it which Danzo couldn't

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But Sasuke cuts through JuubiJins

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Even those who can control his tissue doesn't posses any kind of super strength.
Madara didn't have super strength either.
Like Rollin said it increases your physical energy

Energy=/=super strength

That scan of Sasuke cutting Madara is him using raikiri sword.
Completely different from a regulars sword, that raikiri can cut through just about any person (almost)

 

[SenseiSama]

Even those who can control his tissue doesn't posses any kind of super strength.
Madara didn't have super strength either.
Like Rollin said it increases your physical energy

Energy=/=super strength

That scan of Sasuke cutting Madara is him using raikiri sword.
Completely different from a regulars sword, that raikiri can cut through just about any person (almost)

I just posted a scan of Obito breaking a boulder with his Mokuton arm and he still didn't have full control over it, Furthermore, Senjus inherited Ashura's physical strength, so yes Mokuton grants enhanced physical abilities. Because Mokuton = JuubiJin body

The scan of Sasuke is relevant because his chakra is potent enough to cut through the toughest objects regardless of their physical durability. Using him as an example doesn't display Mokuton feats fairly

 

[VongolaX]

I just posted a scan of Obito breaking a boulder with his Mokuton arm and he still didn't have full control over it, Furthermore, Senjus inherited Ashura's physical strength, so yes Mokuton grants enhanced physical abilities. Because Mokuton = JuubiJin body

Senju's inherit the sages yang chakra, which is life energy that allows you to preform techniques that consume/us physical energy. (Mokuton, Tobirama's soul transfer tech, shadow clone tech etc)

Ashura's incarnates don't naturally gain super strength either.
Naruto was only able to get it through frog sagemode. Hashirama doesn't have super strength either.

Cracking a boulder bolder is hardly super strength, it simply means he wasn't strong enough to break it.

Mokuton=/=juubi jinch
Juubivjinch= the world's limitless life energy

The scan of Sasuke is relevant because his chakra is potent enough to cut through the toughest objects regardless of their physical durability. Using him as an example doesn't display Mokuton feats fairly

What?

I'm saying a simple sword slash with no chakra being used at all.
Tobi blocked suigestu sword slash without getting his arm chopped off while Danzo, zetsu, and Madara were all pierced by a blade.

 

[~Ethereal~]

I see.