[Discussion] Why it makes no sense when some people say Kizaru > Aokiji/Akainu cuz of devil fruit

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Why it makes no sense when some people say Kizaru > Aokiji/Akainu cuz of devil fruit

It makes no sense when some people say Kizaru > Aokiji because his Devil Fruit is "OP".
A devil fruit gives him some extra powers yes but its not as important as powerful Haki. By that Logic Shanks would lose to Kizaru, but i am sure Shanks mid-high diffs him. And if Shanks had for example Aokijis Devil Fruit that would just be an extra feat but even as a non devil fruit user he is stronger. So what makes you think that Kizaru is stronger than others because of his OP devil fruit? What if Akainu is just 10 times more a beast in Haki and combat fight? I dont say he is not strong but a devil fruit should not be that overrated.
 

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Re: Why it makes no sense when some people say Kizaru > Aokiji/Akainu cuz of devil fr

Any normal person know's Akainu is the strongest of the Logia Admirals.
 

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Re: Why it makes no sense when some people say Kizaru > Aokiji/Akainu cuz of devil fr

bro i dnt think anyone thinks kizaru is deftintly stronger than the other two (aside from the guy with yosuke ava from yu yu hakusho)

i do however believe kizaru is not that much weaker than them either. ppl seem to think this because only akoiji and akainu faught over the title of fleet admiral.. personally kizaru seems just as strong but he doesnt really care about rank it seems... also hes older then the two.. so he has more expierence and is faster, while akoiji is younger so id give him stamina and akainu might be physically strongest as well as durable

assuming all these dudes have around same level of haki ( i dnt know why kizaru would not have same amount if not more cuz hes older) in terms of Op df and battle prowess akoiji would be weakest cuz he still has to develop and someone like dofflomingo (as well as a sick whitebeard) broke through his ice i have no doubt the other 2 admirals can as well...so his devil fruit for the most part is kind of negated (at least his one shot ice thing) for semi top tiers (doffy) and top tiers as well (akainu kizaru mihawk etc.).

tbh even though we never seen the fight (animators should make a 10 hour movie lol) i believe it was due to akoiji stamina that he held out for that long.. because (it seems in OP that the older u r more stronger u r unless retired or sick) akainu of the 2 has more expierence durabilitty and it seems physical strength (iffy on this one) not to mention devil fruit advantage so i thijnk akoiji would habve more stamina then akainu (perhaps haki but doubt it seeing as akainu took all those shots and then mixed his intangibility with his haki to defend from marco and vista at same time. and akainu burned akoiji leg off...)

going back to kizaru (sorry got off on tangent) lol i dnt think hes stronger but i dnt c the reason for him to b weaker as well to me he has better feats than akoiji (aside from fighting akainu for 10 days straight that puts him over edge lol)
 
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Re: Why it makes no sense when some people say Kizaru > Aokiji/Akainu cuz of devil fr

OP , i suggest you to have a real life.

you're welcome.
 

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Re: Why it makes no sense when some people say Kizaru > Aokiji/Akainu cuz of devil fr

The fact that u think Shanks is able to mid diff someone like Kizaru is laughable.
 

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Re: Why it makes no sense when some people say Kizaru > Aokiji/Akainu cuz of devil fr

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.....lol
I was about comment on that. Its always funny when people contradict themselves when they try to sound smart. Reminds me of my COD and Tekken online days.

Anyways, Kizaru's furit is overrated. Silver Rayleigh stopped Kizaru while he was moving at light speed, WB stopped Kizaru from moving a light speed, Beckmann kept Kizaru from making any sudden movements and a haki-less Hawkins, Drake and Apoo noticed Kizaru at the very last second but was absolutely helpless against that speed. Kizaru's ability has a charge time and time is something g Kizaru does not have.

Also, no way Shanks can mid diff Kizaru. All top tiers are on par with each other.
 

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Re: Why it makes no sense when some people say Kizaru > Aokiji/Akainu cuz of devil fr

The fact that u think Shanks is able to mid diff someone like Kizaru is laughable.
mid-high diff. i dont mean mid diff by that i mean high diff but not very-high but also not low-high diff.
 

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Re: Why it makes no sense when some people say Kizaru > Aokiji/Akainu cuz of devil fr

Fair point, but at the same time, the stronger one isn't always the one that will win.

Devil Fruit can play a factor though. If Akainu comes in for a punch, Kizaru could transform the area Akainu is about to hit, and disperse the particles, creating a hole that his fist slides through and then shooting him through the eyes. With Aokiji, Kizaru can just reflect himself through Kuzan's ice. It does play an important role and can swing the tide of battle, that can't be denied.
 

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Re: Why it makes no sense when some people say Kizaru > Aokiji/Akainu cuz of devil fr

I think its just pple and us geeks at times geek out too much on the whole light speed thing and pple actualy forget that Oda actually gave loads to the Pika pika than just giving it the fastest man making DF tittle as many wld have it be. The Pika Pika is awesome but it isnt that ultimate a df and so r the other colours 3 admirals' df's so as far as justcthe df's they r jist about equal and anyways its not like the mmain character of this story has the ultra ultra df pr something like that yet he still draws awesomeness from his 'ridiculous' df.


P.s: depending on your circles i might not be a geek if so that time i called my self one u shld know, I was cushioning the blow GEEEEEK!
 
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