Kishimoto and Sasusaku

[CornyRainbow]

So explain to me whats wrong with that? Despite loving him, she chose Konoha over sasuke.

Relationship requires 2 people homes.. not 1. She loved him.. yes.. were they in a relationship? no. So again it will only be shitty writing if there was "romance" going back and forth between them , while Sasuke was evil.


From what I see, its a well developed relationship, and even with all the things right now, i'm thanking kishimoto for taking a new take on pairings. Its pretty refreshing..

So far nobody has been able to give me the answer to my simple question ever since the whole SS bashing and etc started.

"What is wrong with it?"

Those who have answered only showed the following:

- They don't like the relationship because its not a typical , falls in love and has *** everyday like most of K11.
- Because hasn't been with them for 12 years.. (ok.. but how does it make their relationship shitty? seen to many immigrant families and military families to be naive enough to think that would make their relationship shitty)
- Because Sasuke treated her like shit (yea i'm sure he treated everyone else like a king.. are people really trying to destroy his character, by having him do romance, while he was all about breaking bonds)



In the end I came to the conclusion, its not that their relationship is shitty or not developed good. Its simply the fans want a typical relationship. And the bashers simply fail to understand a single thing about their characters. And hopefully you don't get me confused as a SS fan, especially since im not into pairing in this manga.


PS: My apologies for the great wall of text. Though majority of it isn't solely directed at you, but just in general.

Why do you even need a great wall of context to explain why SasuSaku is sh*tty? Even Naruto and Sasuke's relationship is crappy compared to other mangas when the two main characters actually have a really good bond. It's simple... SasuSaku is crappy based on the horrible development they got out of the good and positive they have. If the bad outweighs the good then there is obviously wrong with a relationship and this isn't the matter of SS having minor bumps or anything. Sakura's has been emotionally battered by Sasuke's actions towards other people but herself also. It's not about Sakura not flocking to Naruto(And those people who are mad about that are either NS fans or just Sakura haters in general) or not being a typical relationship. If you saw any of these aspects in a real life relationship would you bother supporting it? Would you not see it as a sh*tty relationship because abuse is not only physical. Now I know comparing real life to a manga is quite silly but SasuSaku does not need a book written or even a huge entire essay on why its basically garbage. All you need to see is how Sasuke treats the girl who loves him majority of the manga and see the first chapter of Gaiden to get the picture.

 

[Made in Heaven]

The stupidity of SS fans will never see an end

 

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

Hardcore pairing fans will gobble up any tiny bones kishi throws at them.

 

[Guitar Hero]

Shit pairing with an even shittier fanbase.

 

[V h o]

I have to believe it's because of sakura. Everything bad in the relationship happens to her:Omg:

 

[KingHashirama]

illogical bashers vs illogical fans

Why do you even need a great wall of context to explain why SasuSaku is sh*tty? Even Naruto and Sasuke's relationship is crappy compared to other mangas when the two main characters actually have a really good bond. It's simple... SasuSaku is crappy based on the horrible development they got out of the good and positive they have. If the bad outweighs the good then there is obviously wrong with a relationship and this isn't the matter of SS having minor bumps or anything. Sakura's has been emotionally battered by Sasuke's actions towards other people but herself also. It's not about Sakura not flocking to Naruto(And those people who are mad about that are either NS fans or just Sakura haters in general) or not being a typical relationship. If you saw any of these aspects in a real life relationship would you bother supporting it? Would you not see it as a sh*tty relationship because abuse is not only physical. Now I know comparing real life to a manga is quite silly but SasuSaku does not need a book written or even a huge entire essay on why its basically garbage. All you need to see is how Sasuke treats the girl who loves him majority of the manga and see the first chapter of Gaiden to get the picture.

Wall of text? No, i would suffice with 1 sentence that had some logic in it, instead of some ignorant opinion. How do you determine a relationship is shitty??

"horribly developed".. on what terms?? BEcause they weren't kissing or being romantic after part 1?? Do you even know about Sasuke's character and how all that played into emphasizing on his "darkness" and "i don't need any bonds"? Probably not since you were too busy thinking its dumb development because romance wasn't involved.

What bads?? do let me know when you find them when they actually got into a relationship.. and the relationship started after the war, they did not have a relationship before the war. Just like there was no NaruxHina before the Last.. so let me know what bads happened after they got into the relationship.

Sasuke showed affection towards Sakura in part 1 , they left on those terms. In part 2, they only had a serious interaction when he in his "I don't need bonds" mood. Now you are telling me kishimoto should've thrown that out, so he could give sasuke and sakura some romantic moments while he was evil? lol ok mate.

The first chapter of Gaiden.. don't see anything wrong with their relationship.. just see Sarada as a brat just like her blonde friend Boruto.

You must not read many stories with good developmental build-up on relationships or you are just very ignorant in general.

Just because they are married now does not make up for the shitty writing and interactions that made this become canon. You can excuse it all you want to buddy, but you can't name anything positive about this pair other than your own conceited wishes for Sakura getting what she wanted through some half-assed apology and a shitty 360 from Sasuke.

Why read stories when you have life?? Stories are made from real life.


-Man staying away for 10+ years = happens in real life all the time

-Child finding out the ones who raised him isn't his "biological parent" (assuming Sarada isn't sakura's. = happens in real life all the time

-Mother raising a child of another woman (assuming sarada isn't sakura's) = happens in real life

You are simply ignorant on the relationships of real life.

What shitty writing? oh wait, referring to when Sasuke was treating sakura like nothing in the 2 serious interactions they had.. and in both of them he was said to be the representative of "evil" or "darkness".. You not liking it =/= shitting writing homes.

Shit, i don't even need to be a Sasuke or a Sakura fan to see how both people like yourself and some SS Fans don't bother using a lot of logic before spouting "shitty development" "Shitty writing" because you don't like it or because you don't understand it.

 

[Shruikan]

So explain to me whats wrong with that? Despite loving him, she chose Konoha over sasuke.

Relationship requires 2 people homes.. not 1. She loved him.. yes.. were they in a relationship? no. So again it will only be shitty writing if there was "romance" going back and forth between them , while Sasuke was evil.


From what I see, its a well developed relationship, and even with all the things right now, i'm thanking kishimoto for taking a new take on pairings. Its pretty refreshing..

So far nobody has been able to give me the answer to my simple question ever since the whole SS bashing and etc started.

"What is wrong with it?"

Those who have answered only showed the following:

- They don't like the relationship because its not a typical , falls in love and has *** everyday like most of K11.
- Because hasn't been with them for 12 years.. (ok.. but how does it make their relationship shitty? seen to many immigrant families and military families to be naive enough to think that would make their relationship shitty)
- Because Sasuke treated her like shit (yea i'm sure he treated everyone else like a king.. are people really trying to destroy his character, by having him do romance, while he was all about breaking bonds)



In the end I came to the conclusion, its not that their relationship is shitty or not developed good. Its simply the fans want a typical relationship. And the bashers simply fail to understand a single thing about their characters. And hopefully you don't get me confused as a SS fan, especially since im not into pairing in this manga.


PS: My apologies for the great wall of text. Though majority of it isn't solely directed at you, but just in general.

Dude he tried to kill her 3 times even when it was unnecessary and made her feel like shit many times throughout the series.The relationship with Naruto is not even remotely comparable because Naruto never took Sasuke's shit lying down but actually fought him out and even then in many aspects Naruto and Sasuke's relationship is shit.Heck Kishimoto himself says he made them look like a bunch of lunatics
And even towards the ending when everything is supposed to be good and happy we find that he has a kid with Karin,he dumped her on Sakura and then went off for a near decade


The fact that he had a kid with Karin neutralises whatever little respect this pairing had.and I am not one of those who believe in the surrogate concept as it seems baseless to me

 

[CornyRainbow]

illogical bashers vs illogical fans




Wall of text? No, i would suffice with 1 sentence that had some logic in it, instead of some ignorant opinion. How do you determine a relationship is shitty??

"horribly developed".. on what terms?? BEcause they weren't kissing or being romantic after part 1?? Do you even know about Sasuke's character and how all that played into emphasizing on his "darkness" and "i don't need any bonds"? Probably not since you were too busy thinking its dumb development because romance wasn't involved.

What bads?? do let me know when you find them when they actually got into a relationship.. and the relationship started after the war, they did not have a relationship before the war. Just like there was no NaruxHina before the Last.. so let me know what bads happened after they got into the relationship.

Sasuke showed affection towards Sakura in part 1 , they left on those terms. In part 2, they only had a serious interaction when he in his "I don't need bonds" mood. Now you are telling me kishimoto should've thrown that out, so he could give sasuke and sakura some romantic moments while he was evil? lol ok mate.

The first chapter of Gaiden.. don't see anything wrong with their relationship.. just see Sarada as a brat just like her blonde friend Boruto.



Why read stories when you have life?? Stories are made from real life.


-Man staying away for 10+ years = happens in real life all the time

-Child finding out the ones who raised him isn't his "biological parent" (assuming Sarada isn't sakura's. = happens in real life all the time

-Mother raising a child of another woman (assuming sarada isn't sakura's) = happens in real life

You are simply ignorant on the relationships of real life.

What shitty writing? oh wait, referring to when Sasuke was treating sakura like nothing in the 2 serious interactions they had.. and in both of them he was said to be the representative of "evil" or "darkness".. You not liking it =/= shitting writing homes.

Shit, i don't even need to be a Sasuke or a Sakura fan to see how both people like yourself and some SS Fans don't bother using a lot of logic before spouting "shitty development" "Shitty writing" because you don't like it or because you don't understand it.

If you need to ask on what terms does SS have sh*tty development then I know damn well I could tell you all night on why they do but if you haven't got the drift by now then I suggest you re-read the manga. Romantic development does not only consist when being in a relationship and at the most needs to be on good terms before it even begins. Sakura and Sasuke having some type of one minute lived through romantic passion before he left AGAIN does not account for all the previous developments he had with her and then on top of that you find nothing wrong with them now? ?Like I said SS could have had some redemption had they ended up being a normal family but no, SS shows nothing but constant forever lived drama and even dragged their Marada recarnation prone daughter into the uneeded crap fest.

All you need is the manga as a whole and Gaiden to conclude why SS is a crappy pairing. There's just not much to explain when he tried to kill her and almost did and on many occasions emotionally battered her. There's nothing more to it.. Honestly there isnt

 

[Zerox553]

SasuSaku is horrible but SasuKarin is better.

no, this is bias if i've ever seen it. Every gripe one can have with ss the same can be said for sk. I respect peoples opinions, but don't call someone's POV horrible but advocate an equally bad pairing.

(Completely neutral standpoint)

 

[lucario14]

I absolutely agree man. How could I have not thought of this concept? Trying to kill someone multiple times, ignoring or being apathetic towards her for most of the manga even in the best of times, going away for a decade even after marriage and not keeping in touch, apparently dumping another woman's kid with the said lady, and much more is tantamount to the outrageous and heinous "disrespect" most guys show to their GFs. Yes, you're right, You've opened my eyes to the truth. By not being at home with Sakura, Sasuke has given a ton of personal space to his wife, and has thus managed to eschew from the horrendous spousal arguments that lead to divorce, which is an icky situation for many, and is therefore an inspiration for all of us fresh faced males who need to learn to "respect" our GF's/spouses. Sasuke is outright avoiding the problems associated with marriage and this lead to a happy and realistic marriage. As the great Albert Einstein once said "A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it". Sasuke has epitomised that concept to the zenith. Ty, and SS rules. :bdpf:

Never thought I'd see poetry on an anime forum ?

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Lmao I swear some SS defenders look so delusional compared to the Op.

Very well written and fully worthy of a rep.

 

[Uchiha420]

Its a terrible pairing the only reason it exists is because theyre both attractive lol

 

[Aznkidd]

There are still some people livin in dream because the truth hurt. But please wake up and accept it for once for good otherwise you will stuck in that non-existing dream forever.

 

[Shitenshin no jutsu]

Twilight has finally met its match for the "still a better love story than Twilight" meme in SS. I honestly find it sad how Kishi just keeps shitting on that pairing, but it's just so funny to laugh at their delusional fans.

 

[SatanicGod]

It's more realistic imo, I doubt most guys can say they never disrespected, every girl, they've ever been with

I never disrespected any girl I've been with, even after a break up. :/

 

[Lonegamer]

Sakura: I love you with all my heart!
Sasuke: U_U
Naruto: I’m your friend.
Sasuke: That is why its worth killing you
Sakura : I have family and friends, but if you left it would be the same thing as being all alone
Sasuke: U_U
Naruto: Wake up already!
Sasuke: SHUT UP ! WHAT THE HELL DO YOU KNOW BOUT ME NARDO ! YOU NEVA HAD NO FAM IN THE FIRST PLACE! YOU HAD NOTHING! YOU DON’T KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO LOSE EVERYTHING YOU
Sakura: I-I really love you!
Sasuke: U_U
Naruto: When you feel pain, I feel it too.
Sasuke: :T_T:
Sakura: Gives entire confession and at one point becomes so desperate she asks to join him on his treason, betray her village and everyone in it, and defect to Orochimaru
Sasuke:….Meh, you’re still annoying, but thanks
Naruto: Sasuke, if I have to break every bone in your body, I’ll stop you!
Sasuke: Naruto…why? Why do you go this far for me?
Sakura: ~Can’t even lay a finger on him to hurt him~
Sasuke: ~Tries to murder her in cold blood anyways~
Naruto: Keep your hatred, let it fester, and when the time comes, hit me with it full force!
Sasuke: Why do you care about me so much?
Sakura: ~Confesses for the second time~
Sasuke: Is she still daydreaming about love?
Naruto: ~exists~
Sasuke: Its because its him that I have to kill him. All of the obstacles are gone, except for Naruto. When Itachi died, he was the only one who made me feel like I wasn’t alone. He never gave up on me. I couldn’t stop paying attention to him. You had a kind of strength I was missing. He made me weak. He’s the only one, I can truly accept


:bdpf:

What have you done..