Edo Madara vs Edo Hashirama vs Edo Minato

[KingHashirama]

Why not?

needs his living body, as his Edo body was not revived at full power along with Tobirama's. << Something emphasized by Madara Uchiha when putting down Tobirama.

 

[Strict]

Hashirama > VOTE Madara > Edo Madara.

 

[-immortal-]

needs his living body, as his Edo body was not revived at full power along with Tobirama's. << Something emphasized by Madara Uchiha when putting down Tobirama.

Hashirama still oblitirate both madara and minato


His SM gates that hold doen the Jubi neg minato kurama avatar

 

[Omar19992010]

Hashirama still oblitirate both madara and minato


His SM gates that hold doen the Jubi neg minato kurama avatar

Minato can teleport or just summon Kurama back inside his body.

 

[Chaosmark101]

Minato can teleport or just summon Kurama back inside his body.

Says who that Hashirama can't use Shinsusenjuu as an edo? I don't recall him ever stating that

 

[Gold Lightning]

Hashirama still oblitirate both madara and minato


His SM gates that hold doen the Jubi neg minato kurama avatar

Lol, ftg says high. I can never understand why people post comments about restraining Minato. Honestly.

 

[Omar19992010]

Says who that Hashirama can't use Shinsusenjuu as an edo? I don't recall him ever stating that

Edo Tensei aren't full power confirmed by Tobirama.

 

[Hokage4]

Neither madara or hashirama can touch minato. Minato takes this rather easily.

 

[Chaosmark101]

Edo Tensei aren't full power confirmed by Tobirama.

Yet Madara could rain meteors & make 25 wood clones all with their own susanoo.

Hiruzen came back stronger than when he died.
Minato gained KCM,BM, & SM
Tobirama was clearly stronger as an Edo.

How does any of this not suggest hashirama could have used shinshusenjuu if he wanted too?

 

[Gold Lightning]

Yet Madara could rain meteors & make 25 wood clones all with their own susanoo.

Hiruzen came back stronger than when he died.
Minato gained KCM,BM, & SM
Tobirama was clearly stronger as an Edo.

How does any of this not suggest hashirama could have used shinshusenjuu if he wanted too?

They were all weaker than their alive selfs, except for bm Minato. But his base form was weaker.

I shouldn't really say weaker, to be precise, they have less power. You saw a blind alive Madara speed blitz SM Naruto. He was most definitely stronger when he came back to life. Madara even said it to Tobirama that they can't bring out their true strength.

 

[Omar19992010]

Yet Madara could rain meteors & make 25 wood clones all with their own susanoo.

Hiruzen came back stronger than when he died.
Minato gained KCM,BM, & SM
Tobirama was clearly stronger as an Edo.

How does any of this not suggest hashirama could have used shinshusenjuu if he wanted too?

There are exceptions like Hiruzen, Itachi and Minato.

Minato was stronger in Edo Tensei since he had the Kyuubi when he's in his Edo form while when he was alive he didn't. Remove the Kyuubi and he's weaker than when he was alive.

Hiruzen is stronger because while alive he had Chakra problems and he was old while in Edo Tensei those problems are non-existant.

Madara was actually weaker than his VOTE self but Edo Rinnegan Madara is tiers weaker than Alive Rinnegan Madara.

Not only that if he Shinsuusenju it would have beaten Madara rather easily due to the fact Edo Madara doesn't have the Kyuubi and only has PS while the Shinsuusenju beat a Kyuubi Armored in Perfect Susano'o which means Hashirama wouldn't have had a problem dealing with Madara.

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

There are exceptions.

Minato was stronger in Edo Tensei since he had the Kyuubi when he's in his Edo form while when he was alive he didn't. Remove the Kyuubi and he's weaker than when he was alive.

Hiruzen is stronger because while alive he had Chakra problems and he was old while in Edo Tensei those problems are non-existant.

Madara was actually weaker than his VOTE self but Edo Rinnegan Madara is tiers weaker than Alive Rinnegan Madara.

This is true^

 

[KingHashirama]

Edo Tensei aren't full power confirmed by Tobirama.

No,... Hashirama and Tobirama's edo tenseis weren't at full power. Madara/Minato/Hiruzen and every other edo tensei was revived at full power.

Tobirama's statement was to himself and his brother only... Since this was the second time they were revived. Hiruzen and Minato were not included in that statement.

They were all weaker than their alive selfs, except for bm Minato. But his base form was weaker.

I shouldn't really say weaker, to be precise, they have less power. You saw a blind alive Madara speed blitz SM Naruto. He was most definitely stronger when he came back to life. Madara even said it to Tobirama that they can't bring out their true strength.

So where is the proof?

Only people who were mentioned to be not at full power were Tobirama and Hashirama.. even when Tobirama said it he referred to himself and his brother.. and then the second time by Madara uchiha.

 

[Omar19992010]

No,... Hashirama and Tobirama's edo tenseis weren't at full power. Madara/Minato/Hiruzen and every other edo tensei was revived at full power.

Tobirama's statement was to himself and his brother only... Since this was the second time they were revived. Hiruzen and Minato were not included in that statement.

Read my above post.

 

[KingHashirama]

Read my above post.

Yea you are using Tobirama's statement which referred to his brother and himself.. and using it for Minato to make it seem as Minato was also weaker than his living self.. when that is not the fact. Edo Minato base > Alive Minato. Edo Minato can do everything alive Minato can + regenerate body and chakra.. where did you get this claim his real life was stronger than his edo??

As for Edo Madara...only VOTE Madara (Kurama + PS) is superior to Edo Madara. EMS Madara is not superior to Edo Madara. Edo Madara will destroy EMS Madara.. simply due to his vast arsenal on top of the one ems Madara normally has. Madara wasn't able to use some of his techniques as an edo tensei .. but in return he gained other techniques such as the rinnegan's.. and regeneration and so on.

It was clearly stated Edo Madara was revived above his prime.

"THIS TIME 'WE'" Hes only talking about him and Hashirama.

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[Mad Titan Thanos]

Shinsuusenju sh1ts

 

[Chaosmark101]

They were all weaker than their alive selfs, except for bm Minato. But his base form was weaker.

I shouldn't really say weaker, to be precise, they have less power. You saw a blind alive Madara speed blitz SM Naruto. He was most definitely stronger when he came back to life. Madara even said it to Tobirama that they can't bring out their true strength.

Very true. Although I do believe if edo madara had the opportunity he could have blitzed SM Naruto too. Since the only times they fought before Naruto was in BM.

There are exceptions like Hiruzen, Itachi and Minato.

Minato was stronger in Edo Tensei since he had the Kyuubi when he's in his Edo form while when he was alive he didn't. Remove the Kyuubi and he's weaker than when he was alive.

Hmm Minato in base with an edo body + unlimited chakra sounds more threatening to me at least than Alive Minato.

Hiruzen is stronger because while alive he had Chakra problems and he was old while in Edo Tensei those problems are non-existant.

Can't argue there that's very true.

Madara was actually weaker than his VOTE self but Edo Rinnegan Madara is tiers weaker than Alive Rinnegan Madara.

VOTE Madara was only stronger than Edo Madara due to the Kyuubi. that doesn't mean he was weaker than when he died because he had to borrow from an outside power source. Edo Madara is a bit above EMS Madara, although both are beneath VOTE Madara.

Not only that if he used Shinsuusenju it would have beaten Madara rather easily due to the fact Edo Madara doesn't have the Kyuubi and only has PS while the Shinsuusenju beat a Kyuubi Armored in Perfect Susano'o which means Hashirama wouldn't have had a problem dealing with Madara.

I know that's why I stated he was nerfed :l

 

[-immortal-]

Lol, ftg says high. I can never understand why people post comments about restraining Minato. Honestly.

Him FGT'ing around isnt gonne defeat hadhirama

 

[Gold Lightning]

Him FGT'ing around isnt gonne defeat hadhirama

Nor are wood gates going to stop Minato

 

[-immortal-]

Nor are wood gates going to stop Minato

I didn't say it was going to stop minato, i said it would "stop@ his kurama avatar