Madara MS abilities (One revealed and other is most likely)

[KCMNaruto]

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1. Seeing through all kind of clones:

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2. Degraded/weaker version of shadow(Limbo):

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- technique was executed directly from the eye as all MS eyes powers are. The statement of 4th databook and manga that Limbo Hengoku is jutsu of Rinnegan could be retconned by Kishi later as noone besides Madara was shown using Limbo Hengoku and as far as we know Rinnegan doesn't have unique technique.

We know that Kamui couldn't hurt Rikudou chakra possesed characters even although it could warp them still:

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- Kakashi confirm that eye power can be powered up with Rikudou chakra

3. Telekinesis/remote control:

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, strangely Madara's MS is similliar to Shin's MS:

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- however it would be still effect of Rinbo Hengoku freezing Sasuke in mid air.

What do you think guys ?. Please discuss

 

[Madara the Solo King]

Nice theory but why is Shin's MS linked to Madara's MS. The difference is that Shin can manipulate weapons whereas Madara doesn't do any of that.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Nice theory but why is Shin's MS linked to Madara's MS. The difference is that Shin can manipulate weapons whereas Madara doesn't do any of that.

Thank and well he does at least to his Sussano's sword which he can control remotely , also he can freeze Sasuke in air with just glance unless it was Limbo. Either way one ability is confirmed while other is either of these two.

 

[Megax Rocker7]

I thinks your first statement is the most plausible.

edit: The MS you posted is actually izuna's not madara's.

 

[BlacLord™]

The first statement can be correct by the rest? No.

Rinbo is the unique technique of Madara's Rinnegan as Amenotejikara is to Sasuke's.

 

[Karna]

I agree with the first part- the ability to see through clones however stopping sasuke midair was most likely done by Limbo since shin's Ms require him to mark things(I made a thread about

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Limbo to me looks like Madara's unique rinnegen technique though.

 

[Zawerni]

Limbo is Madara's Rinnegan tech.

Amenotejikara is Sasuke's Rinnegan tech.

Madara's Mangekyo abilities were never revealed.

 

[BLAZE]

If Limbo was Madara's MS tech then he would have negged Hashirama low difficulty

 

[Torche]

If Limbo was Madara's MS tech then he would have negged Hashirama low difficulty

Exactly this; it's a very big stretch.

 

[Megax Rocker7]

I agree with the first part- the ability to see through clones however stopping sasuke midair was most likely done by Limbo since shin's Ms require him to mark things(I made a thread about

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Limbo to me looks like Madara's unique rinnegen technique though.

The first statement can be correct by the rest? No.

Rinbo is the unique technique of Madara's Rinnegan as Amenotejikara is to Sasuke's.

Limbo is Madara's Rinnegan tech.

Amenotejikara is Sasuke's Rinnegan tech.

Madara's Mangekyo abilities were never revealed.

In the fourth data book limbo was said to be only usable by the original owner of the rinnegan and users with transplanted rinnegan can't use it.

amenotejikara is a jutsu given by the sage to sasuke as stated in the databook.

which makes it possible that sasuke may be able to use limbo.

 

[Zawerni]

In the fourth data book limbo was said to be only usable by the original owner of the rinnegan and users with transplanted rinnegan can't use it.

amenotejikara is a jutsu given by the sage to sasuke as stated in the databook.

which makes it possible that sasuke may be able to use limbo.

Until Sasuke uses Limbo, it's a technique unique to Madara's eyes.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I think limbo was Rinnegan tech as you need Six Path chakra to used it.

Limbo is not invisible force like Shinra Tensei or Bansho Tenin but the invisible clone of the user itself.

Shin's MS tech is close to similar like ST or BT in mechanisme.

And if Madara's EMS eye has something similar to limbo or can used non-complete limbo. Madara will show it to us before.

 

[VongolaX]

I agree on what most people are saying.

If Madara had some form of limbo, Hashirama would of been low diff like no tomorrow (of course senseless banned fappers would disagree), but regardless nice effort.

Madara use this same ability with his will.
This is a rikudou chakra thing for madara

 

[Ansatsuken]

Its not easy as most of his feats is done using Rinnegan eye and not EMS eyes.

 

[Megax Rocker7]

Until Sasuke uses Limbo, it's a technique unique to Madara's eyes.

It isn't unique to his eyes since obito and even nagato weren't able to use it which is explained in the databook that only the original user can use it.

 

[KCMNaruto]

I thinks your first statement is the most plausible.

edit: The MS you posted is actually izuna's not madara's.

Thanks . Really ? strange I was sure it was Madara's MS design.

I agree with the first part- the ability to see through clones however stopping sasuke midair was most likely done by Limbo since shin's Ms require him to mark things(I made a thread about

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Limbo to me looks like Madara's unique rinnegen technique though.

Thanks about first part . Yeah stopping Sasuke in mid air is up to interpretation I guess.
Can even the Rinnegan have unique jutsu to user, I haven't found it stated even once, so most likely powered MS jutsu with Rikuodu chakra.

Limbo is Madara's Rinnegan tech.

Amenotejikara is Sasuke's Rinnegan tech.

Madara's Mangekyo abilities were never revealed.

Maybe, One of Madara's MS abilities was revealed -> seeing through clones

If Limbo was Madara's MS tech then he would have negged Hashirama low difficulty

True, unless Limbo was powered up MS jutsu with Rikudou chakra. Just take a look how big jump of power Kamui got.

I think limbo was Rinnegan tech as you need Six Path chakra to used it.

Limbo is not invisible force like Shinra Tensei or Bansho Tenin but the invisible clone of the user itself.

Shin's MS tech is close to similar like ST or BT in mechanisme.

And if Madara's EMS eye has something similar to limbo or can used non-complete limbo. Madara will show it to us before.

True but I guess it could be posiblity. Considering that MS techniques can be powered up with Rikudou chakra.

I agree on what most people are saying.

If Madara had some form of limbo, Hashirama would of been low diff like no tomorrow (of course senseless banned fappers would disagree), but regardless nice effort.

Madara use this same ability with his will.
This is a rikudou chakra thing for madara

Well, that only if Limbo isn't powered up MS ability with Rikudou chakra, which can be possibility just like rikodou Kamui and Kamui.

 

[Zawerni]

It isn't unique to his eyes since obito and even nagato weren't able to use it which is explained in the databook that only the original user can use it.

It's still unique to his eyes. Obito and Nagato just weren't able to use the full power of the Rinnegan since they weren't the original owner.

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

It's still unique to his eyes. Obito and Nagato just weren't able to use the full power of the Rinnegan since they weren't the original owner.

Please stop it right here.
We all know it's unique, there is only a minority believing otherwise.
They also said that Hago has Ameno and Limbo as well.

 

[Megax Rocker7]

It's still unique to his eyes. Obito and Nagato just weren't able to use the full power of the Rinnegan since they weren't the original owner.

What I meant is that if it was unique to his eye then nagato and obito would've used it but it unique to the original user:

Madara, Hagoromo and Sasuke are the only ones who own their rinnegan making them the only possible users of limbo.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Thanks . Really ? strange I was sure it was Madara's MS design.



Thanks about first part . Yeah stopping Sasuke in mid air is up to interpretation I guess.
Can even the Rinnegan have unique jutsu to user, I haven't found it stated even once, so most likely powered MS jutsu with Rikuodu chakra.



Maybe, One of Madara's MS abilities was revealed -> seeing through clones



True, unless Limbo was powered up MS jutsu with Rikudou chakra. Just take a look how big jump of power Kamui got.



True but I guess it could be posiblity. Considering that MS techniques can be powered up with Rikudou chakra.



Well, that only if Limbo isn't powered up MS ability with Rikudou chakra, which can be possibility just like rikodou Kamui and Kamui.

I agree that MS tech can be powered up by Six Path chakra. But Madara case is different. Kakashi still used MS to performed powered up Kamui ability but Madara used Rinnegan to performed limbo.

Limbo or telekinesis attack was Madara's MS tech from Rikudou chakra powerd up is true if Madara shows us non-power up limbo or telekinesis attack when fighting with Hashirama at VOTE.

Thats mean Madara's MS need to have limbo first before this attack can be powered up by Rikudou chakra.

Like Kakashi/Obito eyes, this eyes already had Kamui abilities and Rikudou power up just amplifies this abilities even further/higher

But Madara EMS never shows us normal limbo or Telekinesis power before he get Rinnegan eyes(Rikudou chakra). Thats mean we cant say Limbo is Madara's EMS tech. When Rinnegan was the eyes that shows us this power thats mean limbo was Rinnegan tech not EMS .

From that, using Kakashi as proof or case study is not right.