Part 1 Kabuto eos vs Part 1 Kakashi eos

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What is eos?
 

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eos?

Anyways, Kakashi is superior.

-Better speed feats and cqc

-Highest experience and battle intelligence (Kabuto got clone feint'ed by naruto)

-Decent genjutsu prowess

-Raikiri for the heart > Kabuto's regen

I just cant see kabuto wining here
 

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eos?

Anyways, Kakashi is superior.

-Better speed feats and cqc

-Highest experience and battle intelligence (Kabuto got clone feint'ed by naruto)

-Decent genjutsu prowess

-Raikiri for the heart > Kabuto's regen

I just cant see kabuto wining here

- Better speed feats? Kakashi has shown something better then keeping up with a Sannin? The only one I'm giving you is CQC, only because Kabuto admitted not his forte. But taking a military pill solves that issue. So no.

- Kabuto has as much battle intellect as Kakashi. Kabuto never got feint.

- Kabuto shown wide field while Kakakashi knocked out part 1 Sakura, so why bring this up here like its a factor?

This battle is nearly equal. Kakashi is not winning no more then high-extreme dif
 
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Tie. They don't have anything that the other can't counter and they're stated to be pretty much equal in the manga.
 

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- Better speed feats? Kakashi has shown something better then keeping up with a Sannin? The only one I'm giving you is CQC, only because Kabuto admitted not his forte. But taking a military pill solves that issue. So no.

- Kabuto has as much battle intellect as Kakashi. Kabuto never got feint.

- Kabuto shown wide field while Kakakashi knocked out part 1 Sakura, so why bring this up here like its a factor?

This battle is nearly equal. Kakashi is not winning no more then high-extreme dif

Tsunade was out of shape and rusty, rations pill is standard issue, and Kakashi still has first gate if necessary to fall back on.

Kakashi wasn't using sharingan against kabuto and kabuto had all intentions to flee.

Field wide broken out by base kakashi, sakura, shikamaru and every one who is compotent in chaka control. where as zabuza couldn't even realize he was under kakashi's gen let alone break it.

Its heavy in kakashi's favor.
 

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Tsunade was out of shape and rusty, rations pill is standard issue, and Kakashi still has first gate if necessary to fall back on.

None of the conditions Kabuto faced still puts Kakashi's speed feats in comparison.

Kakashi wasn't using sharingan against kabuto and kabuto had all intentions to flee.

So? Intentions to flee =/= not capable of fighting him. And he also didn't want Kakashi to copy his jutsu, which is why he didn't want to fight him at CE.

Field wide broken out by base kakashi, sakura, shikamaru and every one who is compotent in chaka control. where as zabuza couldn't even realize he was under kakashi's gen let alone break it.

DB stated it needs to be canceled before you get consumed in it. Not a problem that all of them did it before. Though I did forgot about Zabuza scene. Still not that important.
 

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- Better speed feats? Kakashi has shown something better then keeping up with a Sannin? The only one I'm giving you is CQC, only because Kabuto admitted not his forte. But taking a military pill solves that issue. So no.

- Kabuto has as much battle intellect as Kakashi. Kabuto never got feint.

- Kabuto shown wide field while Kakakashi knocked out part 1 Sakura, so why bring this up here like its a factor?


This battle is nearly equal. Kakashi is not winning no more then high-extreme dif

Keeping up with a sannin? LOL. Tsunade's slowass after years without training speedblitzed him and changed the flow of his nervous system. Taking a miltary pill solves this issue? Please don't make me laugh, if we're gonna start throwing fodder arguments around then i'll also say kakashi takes one of those.

"Kabuto has as much battle intellect as Kakashi"... Okay, it seems you want to be on my sig. Comparing Kabuto's battle intelligence to the man who has shown the best feats trough the whole manga?.. funny you.

- Kakashi knocked down Danzo's anbu with 3 tomoe genjutsu, he could do the same in part 1. He also genjutsu'ed Zabuza, who is a shinobi in the same rank Kakashi and Kabuto are.

Kakashi wins med dif. Kabuto has absolutely no counter for raikiri
 

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kabuto would win 6 out of ten times w/ dead souls prepped
kakashi would win 6 out of ten times otherwise.

needless to say, very even part 1 match up.
 

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Kakashi beats him in seconds.
 

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None of the conditions Kabuto faced still puts Kakashi's speed feats in comparison.



So? Intentions to flee =/= not capable of fighting him. And he also didn't want Kakashi to copy his jutsu, which is why he didn't want to fight him at CE.



DB stated it needs to be canceled before you get consumed in it. Not a problem that all of them did it before. Though I did forgot about Zabuza scene. Still not that important.

I'm saying kakashi can use food pills as well. They're standard issue. Thus making any boost kabuto recieves cancel out. Mind you, kakashi still has precognition and gates to widen the already big margin.

He prepped two dead bodies to flee. In order to get around kakashi's 1 shadow clone.

Why would kakashi get consumed by somthing he recognized instantly in base and broke out of? Zabuza scene not Important? Does kabuto have any Gengetsu breaking feats? Any that put him above zabuza who had to fight the entire second round with his eyes closed?
 

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Keeping up with a sannin? LOL. Tsunade's slowass after years without training speedblitzed him and changed the flow of his nervous system. Taking a miltary pill solves this issue? Please don't make me laugh, if we're gonna start throwing fodder arguments around then i'll also say kakashi takes one of those.

Leaving his guard down for a min =/= Getting blitz. You say Tsunade is slow, yet could keep up with Oro (who Kakashi wouldnt dare to fight). Saying Tsunade was slow only weakens your arguments since no fighter Kakashi faced was faster then Tsunade.

"Kabuto has as much battle intellect as Kakashi"... Okay, it seems you want to be on my sig. Comparing Kabuto's battle intelligence to the man who has shown the best feats trough the whole manga?.. funny you.

Lol no need to be upset. Kabuto already outsmart him when he needed to escape. Kabuto's intellect is the sol reason Oro took him under his wing. He was the up front starter of part 2 series war. So yes, go ahead and look dumb yourself. Whats sig worthy is actually saying Kakashi having the "best" feats through the whole manga.

- Kakashi knocked down Danzo's anbu with 3 tomoe genjutsu, he could do the same in part 1. He also genjutsu'ed Zabuza, who is a shinobi in the same rank Kakashi and Kabuto are.

With no evidence as such, since Itachi outright stated his Sharingan had improved since part 1. Plus the fact that Kabuto knows all about Kakashi's part 1 skilled with it.


Kakashi wins med dif. Kabuto has absolutely no counter for raikiri

Dead corpse bait says hello.
 

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I'm saying kakashi can use food pills as well. They're standard issue. Thus making any boost kabuto recieves cancel out. Mind you, kakashi still has precognition and gates to widen the already big margin.

Anyone can use food pills=/= everyone has them in their possession. So no they are not standard issue's nor in everyone's ninja pouch. One needs proof of this. There is no make believe margin having full access to his strength or precog that makes him keep up with ppl in his tier

He prepped two dead bodies to flee. In order to get around kakashi's 1 shadow clone.

Ok.

Why would kakashi get consumed by somthing he recognized instantly in base and broke out of? Zabuza scene not Important? Does kabuto have any Gengetsu breaking feats? Any that put him above zabuza who had to fight the entire second round with his eyes closed?

When did I say anything about Kakashi getting caught? I only mention Kabuto's field of genjutsu experience. Thats all.
 

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Ridiculous.
Its not. Kabuto completely relies on close combat and in this aspect Kakashi is superior given his sharingan precog and better taijutsu stats in databook. Kabuto's underground attack is useless as long as Kakashis sharingan can his chakra thus can locate him. We cant say the same about Kabuto who is pretty much vulnerable to Kakashis clone&undeground combo. Moreso Kabutos wont make use of his healing skills due to Raikiri causes too much damage.
 

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Anyone can use food pills=/= everyone has them in their possession. So no they are not standard issue's nor in everyone's ninja pouch. One needs proof of this. There is no make believe margin having full access to his strength or precog that makes him keep up with ppl in his tier



Ok.



When did I say anything about Kakashi getting caught? I only mention Kabuto's field of genjutsu experience. Thats all.

Yes, food pills are standard possession. Infact the proper name is military rations pill. Kakashi is a jounin in said military.
First gate goes beyond this "full acess" you speak of, and sharingan precognition makes kabuto's already slow movements appear even slower.

Ok

So what experience he has in breaking genjutsu? Cuz the one he can cast isn't doing much.
 
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