Breaking down Naruto and Sasuke Six battles. [Manga-fact]

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To begin with, this thread is to debunk every single false claims people tends to insinuate concerning Naruto vs Sasuke battles.

Disclaimer: Everything thing you see here today are nothing but Manga facts and not false assumptions. I expect you to reply in a sensible manner, and please do not troll!

First Battle: Naruto and Sasuke rivalries dates back in the academy. At that point, Sasuke was obviously stronger considering he was rare prodigy. Despite this, Naruto went ahead, trying to defeat him. Inevitably, he lost the battle but not his motives.
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Symbolization: The first symbolizes two things. Naruto intentions at that point was to win the hearts of Sakura and the Girls. Sasuke on the hand, just wanted to humilate Naruto since he considered him as a loser.

Conclusion: The fact that Sasuke was already a prodigy and Naruto a loser, he won this battle rather convincingly.


Second Battle: Their second battle happened at the rooftop of a hospital. Sasuke challenged Naruto to a battle just after he back into Konoha. They engaged in a heated duel on the rooftop of
the hospital, where Naruto told Sasuke that he had never considered himself inferior to Sasuke. Kakashi Hatake leapt in to stop the fight just when Naruto and Sasuke were about to use their Rasengan and Chidori on each other, deflecting both their attacks into adjacent water towers.
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While Sasuke's Chidori made a larger dent on the front of the tower than Naruto's Rasengan, Sasuke was shocked to find that the back of Naruto's water tank had been completely blown out by the power of his Rasengan.

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Symbolization; Sasuke challenge Naruto to a battle, simply because he felt Naruto was getting to stronger. Seeing Naruto Rasengan blowing off the water tower this made matters worst. At that point, Sasuke realised Naruto was getting stronger by the day and may actually defeat him.

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Unlike Sasuke, Naruto own motives when just to prove to Sasuke he wasn't inferior to him and he was getting stronger. Which he actually did.

Conclusion: Naruto won this fight, since he was able to make Sasuke feel insecure about him.

Third Battle: Their third battle happened at the valley of end. At that point, Naruto wanted to stop Sasuke from leaving the village. While Sasuke motive was kill Naruto and Thus awakened the Mangekyo Sharingan as said by Itachi. When the battle commence, Sasuke immediately had the upper-hand due to the pill given to him by the Sound-four. Eventually, Naruto manage to overwhelm Sasuke back after getting a little bit of the Nine-tails power. In this moment, Sasuke sharingan fully matured enabling him to predict Naruto movement and once again get the upper hand.
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Upset by Naruto's persistence, Sasuke knocked him unconscious with Peregrine Falcon Drop. Feeling he had no choice, Sasuke increased his Cursed Seal of Heaven to Level Two, once again evening the playing field. Both Sasuke and Naruto realised the cost of their respective abilities at that point, but both decided that they had no other choice.
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Sasuke revealed that the location of their fight was the Valley of the End, and, determined to end the battle, forced the use of a third Chidori. Naruto created, using one hand, and the demon fox cloak's chakra as a shell, the Demon Fox Rasengan. Sasuke's Chidori, after a moment, warped into the Flapping Chidori. The two ninja collided their attacks; Sasuke, planning
to punch Naruto in the heart, deliberately missed, and targeted the gut instead, while Naruto, referring to one of Sasuke's insults, scratched his forehead protector.

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A black dome of energy formed around them, which eventually dissipated, revealing the two ninja as their current forms, and then as their childish forms, who held hands and smiled at each other. When the dust settled, Sasuke was revealed to be victorious.
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Symbolization: This battle signify Sasuke acknowledgment towards Naruto. He was able to acknowledge him for the first time in the series.

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Conclusion: in conclusion, Naruto achieved what he wanted that's striking Sasuke fore-head protector. Despite Sasuke winning the battle, he didn't achieve his main goal that is killing Naruto. Although he did succeeded in leaving Konoha, While Naruto failed in retrieving him. Therefore, this battle ended in draw!

Fourth & Fifth Battle: Naruto and Sasuke fourth and fifth battle happened in different times. The fourth happened at Orochimaru hideout were Naruto meet Sasuke for the first time in years. Sasuke as usual was cold, mentioning he had broken his bond with Naruto and wanted to kill. Sai and Yamato moved, trying to protect Naruto. At the end, Sasuke escaped by blowing off the roof above.
Furthermore, their fifth battle happened under the Samurai bridge just after Sasuke had defeated Danzo. Sasuke tried to kill Sakura who was saved by Naruto.
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They later clash both their Rasengan and Chidori together.
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Symbolization: The Fourth battle symbolizes Sasuke breaking his bond with Naruto,
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While the fifth battle symbolizes Naruto intention to save Sasuke from all his hatred.
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Conclusion: In conclusion, Sasuke won the fourth battle considering he was able pronounce unto Naruto he had broken his bond. Thus superiority.

However on the fifth battle, Naruto was able show Sasuke he hadn't severe his bonds and instead wanted to save Sasuke from his hatred which he eventually did at the final battle. So Naruto won this battle.
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Additionally, Naruto fainting afterwards didn't signify anything as most people would say otherwise.

Sixth and Final Battle: This am sure we are all aware off. It happened just after the sealing of Kaguya with Sasuke declaring his intention to martyr the kages and destroy the tail beasts.
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His attention at that point was to start a REVOLUTION where the villages will no longer fall prey to darkness.

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To cut the story short, Naruto and Sasuke eventually fought an intense battle where they later clash their strongest jutsus.

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However they continue battling until they clash their Final clash with them both losing their arm.

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Symbolization: Their Final battle symbolizes Naruto triump over Sasuke in terms of Hatred, Ideas and their vendetta. So the in end, Naruto not only won the battle, but also won the most significant battle out of all.

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Final Conclusion: In aftermath of all the battles between Naruto and Sasuke the score is at 4-3!
 
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nah you're perception of manga is screwed.

Sasuke is actually 4wins ahead -1draw and has 0 losses

First thing that needs to be done is to distinguish a battle win from a loss. Due to the topic in nature I'll be posting the 4 wins in Sasuke's favor.

Battle win#1
Academy
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Battle win#2
Vote 1

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Battle win #3
Hideout Slaughter

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Battle win #4
Under the bridge

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So now that we have distinguished such an obvious difference in strength how is this a win in Narutos favor?
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Obvious tie is obvious. Not to mention Naruto says that this isn't a fight you can or lose and he's right.



Sasuke later agrees and takes the headband.

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Sasuke still has the headband tucked away, so he still plans on going 5-0.
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Sasuke is still undefeated while on the other hand, I don't think Naruto is confident in his ability to win.
I don't blame him.

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nah you're perception of manga is screwed.

Sasuke is actually 4wins ahead -1draw and has 0 losses

First thing that needs to be done is to distinguish a battle win from a loss. Due to the topic in nature I'll be posting the 4 wins in Sasuke's favor.

Battle win#1
Academy
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Battle win#2
Vote 1

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Battle win #3
Hideout Slaughter

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Battle win #4
Under the bridge

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So now that we have distinguished such an obvious difference in strength how is this a win in Narutos favor?
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Obvious tie is obvious. Not to mention Naruto says that this isn't a fight you can or lose and he's right.



Sasuke later agrees and takes the headband.

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Sasuke still has the headband tucked away, so he still plans on going 5-0.
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Sasuke is still undefeated while on the other hand, I don't think Naruto is confident in his ability to win.
I don't blame him.

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I'm guessing you didn't even bother to read it? So I'll wait first till you read it.
 

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" Despite Sasuke winning the battle, he didn't achieve his main goal that is killing Naruto. Therefore, this battle ended in draw!"
What? you just contradicted yourself and it seemed as if you forced that win. Naruto's plan was to bring Sasuke back which he failed in, Sasuke never had any intention of killing naruto, if he did, while naruto was there and unconscious he would've dumped him in water to drown, chidori him in the heart but instead he just left him there.Sasuke won VOTE 1, Naruto ultimately failed in bringing Sasuke back that he promised Sakura and all who put their lives on the line for Sasuke to do. This thread has shown bias ever since that post.


I understand your points but most of these is forced, in the final battle Neither Naruto nor Sasuke won. Naruto even said it wasn't a battle that's about winning or losing, it seemed even out. sasuke didn't have a a mastered rinnegan but had intent to kill and Naruto had a mastery of his powers or at least a WHOLE LOT BETTER of a mastery than Sasuke had but no intent to kill. Any Sasuke fan that thought Sasuke would win were delusional. Physically it was a tie if that's the type of battle you mean. But in terms of ideological will Naruto won that battle, as Naruto had a stronger drive for his dreams than Sasuke. the rest I agree with for the most part anyway. But I appreciate the effort you put into making this thread that's for sure, nice read.
 

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I agree with your points Naruto as a series was always more about symbolism in fights than just power levels like DBZ, and in that sense it makes sense why you can distinguish which battles Naruto and Sasuke won respectively.
 

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Sasuke went 4-0 in physical battles. You're talking about battles of morals. Also if Sasuke wanted to kill Naruto at VoTE 1 he could've as Naruto was unconscious, all it would've took was an kunai. So don't make it seem as Naruto really achieved anything. He was spared.
 
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" Despite Sasuke winning the battle, he didn't achieve his main goal that is killing Naruto. Therefore, this battle ended in draw!"
What? you just contradicted yourself and it seemed as if you forced that win. Naruto's plan was to bring Sasuke back which he failed in, Sasuke never had any intention of killing naruto, if he did, while naruto was there and unconscious he would've dumped him in water to drown, chidori him in the heart but instead he just left him there.Sasuke won VOTE 1, Naruto ultimately failed in bringing Sasuke back that he promised Sakura and all who put their lives on the line for Sasuke to do. This thread has shown bias ever since that post.
Actually I thought about this at first, but upon more re-search I realised Sasuke wanted to Kill Naruto to awakened the Mangekyo Sharingan. But he later changed his mind and didn't kill Naruto. While Naruto wanted to just scatch his head-protector which he eventually did.
I'll advice you to re-read that part again.

I understand your points but most of these is forced, in the final battle Neither Naruto nor Sasuke won. Naruto even said it wasn't a battle that's about winning or losing, it seemed even out. sasuke didn't have a a mastered rinnegan but had intent to kill and Naruto had a mastery of his powers or at least a WHOLE LOT BETTER of a mastery than Sasuke had but no intent to kill. Any Sasuke fan that thought Sasuke would win were delusional. Physically it was a tie if that's the type of battle you mean. But in terms of ideological will Naruto won that battle, as Naruto had a stronger drive for his dreams than Sasuke. the rest I agree with for the most part anyway. But I appreciate the effort you put into making this thread that's for sure, nice read.
Not forced and they are not my points but the Mangas
 

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To begin with, this thread is to debunk every single false claims people tends to insinuate concerning Naruto vs Sasuke battles.

Disclaimer: Everything thing you see here today are nothing but Manga facts and not false assumptions. I expect you to reply in a sensible manner, and please do not troll!

First Battle: Naruto and Sasuke rivalries dates back in the academy. At that point, Sasuke was obviously stronger considering he was rare prodigy. Despite this, Naruto went ahead, trying to defeat him. Inevitably, he lost the battle but not his motives.
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Symbolization: The first symbolizes two things. Naruto intentions at that point was to win the hearts of Sakura and the Girls. Sasuke on the hand, just wanted to humilate Naruto since he considered him as a loser.

Conclusion: The fact that Sasuke was already a prodigy and Naruto a loser, he won this battle rather convincingly.


Second Battle: Their second battle happened at the rooftop of a hospital. Sasuke challenged Naruto to a battle just after he back into Konoha. They engaged in a heated duel on the rooftop of
the hospital, where Naruto told Sasuke that he had never considered himself inferior to Sasuke. Kakashi Hatake leapt in to stop the fight just when Naruto and Sasuke were about to use their Rasengan and Chidori on each other, deflecting both their attacks into adjacent water towers.
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While Sasuke's Chidori made a larger dent on the front of the tower than Naruto's Rasengan, Sasuke was shocked to find that the back of Naruto's water tank had been completely blown out by the power of his Rasengan.

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Symbolization; Sasuke challenge Naruto to a battle, simply because he felt Naruto was getting to stronger. Seeing Naruto Rasengan blowing off the water tower this made matters worst. At that point, Sasuke realised Naruto was getting stronger by the day and may actually defeat him.

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Unlike Sasuke, Naruto own motives when just to prove to Sasuke he wasn't inferior to him and he was getting stronger. Which he actually did.

Conclusion: Naruto won this fight, since he was able to make Sasuke feel insecure about him.

Third Battle: Their third battle happened at the valley of end. At that point, Naruto wanted to stop Sasuke from leaving the village. While Sasuke motive was kill Naruto and Thus awakened the Mangekyo Sharingan as said by Itachi. When the battle commence, Sasuke immediately had the upper-hand due to the pill given to him by the Sound-four. Eventually, Naruto manage to overwhelm Sasuke back after getting a little bit of the Nine-tails power. In this moment, Sasuke sharingan fully matured enabling him to predict Naruto movement and once again get the upper hand.
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Upset by Naruto's persistence, Sasuke knocked him unconscious with Peregrine Falcon Drop. Feeling he had no choice, Sasuke increased his Cursed Seal of Heaven to Level Two, once again evening the playing field. Both Sasuke and Naruto realised the cost of their respective abilities at that point, but both decided that they had no other choice.
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Sasuke revealed that the location of their fight was the Valley of the End, and, determined to end the battle, forced the use of a third Chidori. Naruto created, using one hand, and the demon fox cloak's chakra as a shell, the Demon Fox Rasengan. Sasuke's Chidori, after a moment, warped into the Flapping Chidori. The two ninja collided their attacks; Sasuke, planning
to punch Naruto in the heart, deliberately missed, and targeted the gut instead, while Naruto, referring to one of Sasuke's insults, scratched his forehead protector.

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A black dome of energy formed around them, which eventually dissipated, revealing the two ninja as their current forms, and then as their childish forms, who held hands and smiled at each other. When the dust settled, Sasuke was revealed to be victorious.
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Symbolization: This battle signify Sasuke acknowledgment towards Naruto. He was able to acknowledge him for the first time in the series.

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Conclusion: in conclusion, Naruto achieved what he wanted that's striking Sasuke fore-head protector. Despite Sasuke winning the battle, he didn't achieve his main goal that is killing Naruto. Therefore, this battle ended in draw!

Fourth & Fifth Battle: Naruto and Sasuke fourth and fifth battle happened in different times. The fourth happened at Orochimaru hideout were Naruto meet Sasuke for the first time in years. Sasuke as usual was cold, mentioning he had broken his bond with Naruto and wanted to kill. Sai and Yamato moved, trying to protect Naruto. At the end, Sasuke escaped by blowing off the roof above.
Furthermore, their fifth battle happened under the Samurai bridge just after Sasuke had defeated Danzo. Sasuke tried to kill Sakura who was saved by Naruto.
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They later clash both their Rasengan and Chidori together.
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Symbolization: The Fourth battle symbolizes Sasuke breaking his bond with Naruto,
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While the fifth battle symbolizes Naruto intention to save Sasuke from all his hatred.
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Conclusion: In conclusion, Sasuke won the fourth battle considering he was able pronounce unto Naruto he had broken his bond. Thus superiority.

However on the fifth battle, Naruto was able show Sasuke he hadn't severe his bonds and instead wanted to save Sasuke from his hatred which he eventually did at the final battle. So Naruto won this battle.
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Additionally, Naruto fainting afterwards didn't signify anything as most people would say otherwise.

Sixth and Final Battle: This am sure we are all aware off. It happened just after the sealing of Kaguya with Sasuke declaring his intention to martyr the kages and destroy the tail beasts.
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His attention at that point was to start a REVOLUTION where the villages will no longer fall prey to darkness.

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To cut the story short, Naruto and Sasuke eventually fought an intense battle where they later clash their strongest jutsus.

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However they continue battling until they clash their Final clash with them both losing their arm.

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Symbolization: Their Final battle symbolizes Naruto triump over Sasuke in terms of Hatred, Ideas and their vendetta. So the in end, Naruto not only won the battle, but also won the most significant battle out of all.

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Final Conclusion: In aftermath of all the battles between Naruto and Sasuke the score is at 4-3!
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"Naruto achieved what he wanted that's striking Sasuke fore-head protector" LOL

naruto wanted to bring back sasuke, even by breaking his legs and arms not striking that blooedy forehead protector. and he failed. failed

sasuke stood and naruto got stomped on the ground.

sasuke wanted to kill naruto, but he didnt kill him. he could've there but he spared naruto's life.

surely sasuke won.
 
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Sasuke went 4-0 in physical battles. You're talking about battles of morals. Also if Sasuke wanted to kill Naruto at VoTE 1 he could've as Naruto was unconscious, all it would've took was an kunai. So don't make it seem as Naruto really achieved anything. He was spared.
Naruto wanted to Scatch Sasuke head-band and he did. Their battles isn't just about physical, but it also symbolizes their friendship.
 

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Actually I thought about this at first, but upon more re-search I realised Sasuke wanted to Kill Naruto to awakened the Mangekyo Sharingan. But he later changed his mind and didn't kill Naruto. While Naruto wanted to just scatch his head-protector which he eventually did.
I'll advice you to re-read that part again.
I advice you to re-read the manga.

Sasuke's goal was to kill him but he changed his mind after he won.

Naruto's goal was to take sasuke back even if it meant to break his limbs.

Sasuke spared naruto that's all.

and in the bridge battle Naruto only proved sasuke to take him on he never won that battle.

the naruto fainting was caused by the poison kunai which is a ninja tool so he basically won.

I agree that naruto won the last fight in ideals because he really did get through to sasuke's head regardless of the physical condition
 

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I advice you to re-read the manga.

Sasuke's goal was to kill him but he changed his mind after he won.

Naruto's goal was to take sasuke back even if it meant to break his limbs.

Sasuke spared naruto that's all.

and in the bridge battle Naruto only proved sasuke to take him on he never won that battle.

the naruto fainting was caused by the poison kunai which is a ninja tool so he basically won.

I agree that naruto won the last fight in ideals because he really did get through to sasuke's head regardless of the physical condition
And Naruto main goal was to scatch Sasuke head-band to prove his strength and he did. Naruto saying he will broke Sasuke limbs was as a result of the Kyubi influence.

All I see are symbolisms. Some not even true. So OP tell me this. Has naruto ever won a physical battle against sasuke?
Refer to previous post to "Sasuke treezy"

"Naruto achieved what he wanted that's striking Sasuke fore-head protector" LOL

naruto wanted to bring back sasuke, even by breaking his legs and arms and failed not striking that blooedy forehead protector.

sasuke wanted to kill naruto and failed. sasuke stood and naruto stomped on the ground.

surely sasuke won.
Same with you.
 
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