Mu and Deidara vs SM Jiraiya and Kakuzu

[Izanamı.]

distance: 50m

restriction: C0, Frog call, Frog song


who wins?

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Why do you have to group Jman up with the other loser? You're severely cramping his style.

Team 2 could win but fodderuzuzuzuzuzu may be enough of a hindrance to screw Jiraiya over. Replace him with Edo Hiruzen and you got yourself a mid-low difficulty win my G.

Edit: Zexion showing his severe lack of knowledge on anything Jiraiya related yet again lml.

 

[Zexion~]

Lmllll

Team one mid diff, Summons get Jinton'd and then Jiraiya has no range really.

Kakuzu's hearts can't do much to Mu anyways when he's invisible, Deidara's flashy enough to garner all the attention so Mu can jinton without anyone noticing he came un-invisible.

Well, all in all Jiraiya doesn't have enough range to contribute fairly, and Mu> Kakuzu

 

[KidGamer65]

Lmllll

Team one mid diff, Summons get Jinton'd and then Jiraiya has no range really.

Kakuzu's hearts can't do much to Mu anyways when he's invisible, Deidara's flashy enough to garner all the attention so Mu can jinton without anyone noticing he came un-invisible.

Well, all in all Jiraiya doesn't have enough range to contribute fairly, and Mu> Kakuzu

Invisibility is literally useless due to Jiraiya's Canopy Barrier.

 

[Zexion~]

Invisibility is literally useless due to Jiraiya's Canopy Barrier.

Its literally not because he can fly out of its range quite easily, and Mu can sense so he'll know the barrier is up.

Its not like he needs to go CQC to take him out, like I said Deidara can garner enough attention so he gets ****ed from behind.

 

[Shitenshin no jutsu]

Jiraiya solos lol.

 

[Zexion~]

Please someone tell me how Jiraiya takes either one of these guys down as both can solo him

#YesIFullyExpectYouIgnorant****sToPutThisInThatDiscussion.

 

[KidGamer65]

Its literally not because he can fly out of its range quite easily, and Mu can sense so he'll know the barrier is up.

Its not like he needs to go CQC to take him out, like I said Deidara can garner enough attention so he gets ****ed from behind.

Except neither Kakuzu nor Jiraiya would sit there and let him fly out of it's range, and it moves with Jiraiya, so as he chases Mu, Mu runs but doesn't escape the barrier. An AoE attack like Toad Oil Flame Bomb would take him out while he's running from Jiraiya and failing to escape the barrier.

As long as he doesn't have to worry about Deidara being able to hit him, he has no reason to take his eyes off Mu and focus on Deidara. Being able to make big noises=/=Being able to draw the attention away from the obvious larger threat. He has Kakuzu here for a reason. Kakuzu fights Deidara while Jiraiya attacks Mu.

 

[Zexion~]

Except neither Kakuzu nor Jiraiya would sit there and let him fly out of it's range, and it moves with Jiraiya, so as he chases Mu, Mu runs but doesn't escape the barrier. An AoE attack like Toad Oil Flame Bomb would take him out while he's running from Jiraiya and failing to escape the barrier.

As long as he doesn't have to worry about Deidara being able to hit him, he has no reason to take his eyes off Mu and focus on Deidara. Being able to make big noises=/=Being able to draw the attention away from the obvious larger threat. He has Kakuzu here for a reason. Kakuzu fights Deidara while Jiraiya attacks Mu.

*sigh* Separation tactics?

No? Once Mu gets out of the range of the Barrier which isn't that hard as his flight>Jiraiya's movement speed .-. J man has no idea where to go, he cant chase something that is invisible? And that can move in directions you can't? Even if he tries to use a toad they can only maneuver so much in the air.

Toad oil bomb? He gets jinton'd while its being used, and flying above it isn't that hard a thing to do when you're already in the air.

Mu and Deidara have the movement advantage here so if anyone is going to pick who fights who its them, Jinton takes out Kakuzu relatively quickly.

 

[KidGamer65]

*sigh* Separation tactics?

Nope. You are the one who suggested that Mu would run away. Lmao. Mu running away from Jiraiya's barrier means that Jiraiya will chase him.

No? Once Mu gets out of the range of the Barrier which isn't that hard as his flight>Jiraiya's movement speed .-. J man has no idea where to go, he cant chase something that is invisible? And that can move in directions you can't? Even if he tries to use a toad they can only maneuver so much in the air.

Being faster than Jiraiya doesn't automatically mean he'll get out of the barrier since the barrier covers a larger area than him and Jiraiya are in to begin with, and Jiraiya doesn't need to catch up with Mu to keep up the barrier as the barrier

He only has no idea where to go once Mu actually escapes the barrier.

Toad oil bomb? He gets jinton'd while trying to climb the toad, and flying above it isn't that hard a thing to do when you're already in the air.

What? If Jiraiya summons the Toad right under him, he's already going to be on top of it. Unless you are telling me that Mu uses Jinton from 50 meters away and hits Jiraiya before he can summon. He summons his Toad and uses the Canopy Barrier and then runs in Mu's general direction. The size of said barrier is enough for Jiraiya to be able to trap him and keep him in there regardless of knowing exactly where he is.

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The barrier was about to reach Pain where he was but he revealed himself before it could hit. Once he's been located, the Toad does one big jump and lets the Flame Bomb go. In the air or not, good luck dodging something that big when it's released that close. If he does manage to avoid it, then Ma and Pa can just follow up immediately with their Tongue Attacks.

Mu and Deidara have the movement advantage here so if anyone is going to pick who fights who its them, Jinton takes out Kakuzu relatively quickly.

Because Jiraiya sits on his ass and lets Mu use Jinton. You saying that Mu escapes from the barrier means that he runs from the main area of the fight, where literally everybody else is. Tell me how he's going to fight Kakuzu when he's running from Jiraiya's barrier? Lol.

 

[Zexion~]

Nope. You are the one who suggested that Mu would run away. Lmao. Mu running away from Jiraiya's barrier means that Jiraiya will chase him.

Except he's faster so he'd escape it relatively quickly, and if Jiraiya is going to stop to use a jutsu......

Being faster than Jiraiya doesn't automatically mean he'll get out of the barrier since the barrier covers a larger area than him and Jiraiya are in to begin with, and Jiraiya doesn't need to catch up with Mu to keep up the barrier as the barrier

So then he flies upwards, where he literally can't chase him if he flies diagonally even if Jiraiya summons a toad he'd still escape the barrier as he'd be moving both farther away and higher.

Lets not forget about Deidara who could force Jiraiya to halt his chase with bombs.

He only has no idea where to go once Mu actually escapes the barrier.

Which is relatively simple for someone with flight.

What? If Jiraiya summons the Toad right under him, he's already going to be on top of it. Unless you are telling me that Mu uses Jinton from 50 meters away and hits Jiraiya before he can summon. He summons his Toad and uses the Canopy Barrier and then runs in Mu's general direction. The size of said barrier is enough for Jiraiya to be able to trap him and keep him in there regardless of knowing exactly where he is.

Uhm why are you hyping this thing's size? Pain avoided it in an enclosed room without flight (He came back in after) :lol, to use the jutsu he has to continuously cast flames onto the oil, leaving time for either one of them to ambush him, especially if Mu isn't in the barrier and he's just using it because it has AoE and then Deidara again can take advantage of that as his flight is just as fast as Mu's.

Can he even use it when fighting? After he gets knocked outside you don't see it again...

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The barrier was about to reach Pain where he was but he revealed himself before it could hit. Once he's been located, the Toad does one big jump and lets the Flame Bomb go. In the air or not, good luck dodging something that big when it's released that close. If he does manage to avoid it, then Ma and Pa can just follow up immediately with their Tongue Attacks.

So he's going to jump towards Mu? Are you retarded? Mu either flies around behind the toad and then Jinton's it/Jiraiya or just blitzes Jiraiya from underneath

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Notice how the flames in front of Bunta are thin for a bit, so if Jiraiya is dumb enough to hop towards Mu he gets his shit rocked off the toad. He wouldn't be able to react if he's using the jutsu either.

Because Jiraiya sits on his ass and lets Mu use Jinton. You saying that Mu escapes from the barrier means that he runs from the main area of the fight, where literally everybody else is. Tell me how he's going to fight Kakuzu when he's running from Jiraiya's barrier? Lol.

I don't know why you think Jinton takes so long

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, it is isn't that slower than Jiraiya's flame bomb so if he's focused on increasing the barrier's size Mu just becomes visible and uses Jinton.

Yes he can fly away...and then fly back .-.

 

[ARGUS]

Jiraiya and Kakuzu win this mid/high diff

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Super lightened C2 bombs. Damnn. That'd be pretty deadly.

 

[TRE MERCER]

50m? Gamabunta fire covers much more than that so once the battle start off they get roasted. Or Gamabunta could simply jump closer to make sure the fire reaches either way there done 4.​

 

[Beans2]

*Head explodes from seeing such a beautiful match*

Muu and Deidara win this high difficulty. Muu can lighten Deidara's C2 bombs to give them a speed boost making it difficult for Jiraiya to consistantly avoid. Large scale fire techniques can be countered with jinton which overpowers them. While Jiraiya and his toads are focused on avoiding Deidara's lightened C2 bombs Muu can immobilize boss toads with a single touch using the heavy weight jutsu. Kebari Senbon can't disrupt Jinton's prep when Deidara can block the hair needles with clay creations. Against opponents that can easily kill them with jinton or explosions, or immobilize them with a single touch, I don't see boss toads lasting very long on the battlefield. Once they are killed, Muu jintons them to death.

 

[Zexion~]

*Head explodes from seeing such a beautiful match*

Muu and Deidara win this high difficulty. Muu can lighten Deidara's C2 bombs to give them a speed boost making it difficult for Jiraiya to consistantly avoid. Large scale fire techniques can be countered with jinton which overpowers them. While Jiraiya and his toads are focused on avoiding Deidara's lightened C2 bombs Muu can immobilize boss toads with a single touch using the heavy weight jutsu. Kebari Senbon can't disrupt Jinton's prep when Deidara can block the hair needles with clay creations. Against opponents that can easily kill them with jinton or explosions, or immobilize them with a single touch, I don't see boss toads lasting very long on the battlefield. Once they are killed, Muu jintons them to death.

Can Jinton counter the entire flame?

 

[TRE MERCER]

*Head explodes from seeing such a beautiful match*

Muu and Deidara win this high difficulty. Muu can lighten Deidara's C2 bombs to give them a speed boost making it difficult for Jiraiya to consistantly avoid. Large scale fire techniques can be countered with jinton which overpowers them. While Jiraiya and his toads are focused on avoiding Deidara's lightened C2 bombs Muu can immobilize boss toads with a single touch using the heavy weight jutsu. Kebari Senbon can't disrupt Jinton's prep when Deidara can block the hair needles with clay creations. Against opponents that can easily kill them with jinton or explosions, or immobilize them with a single touch, I don't see boss toads lasting very long on the battlefield. Once they are killed, Muu jintons them to death.

I just realize that your a Mu wanker L00l.​

 

[Beans2]

Can Jinton counter the entire flame?

It will cut through the part that would be hitting Muu like this:

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I just realize that your a Mu wanker L00l.​

Your laziness reveals itself by the fact that's all you have to say for your argument.

 

[TRE MERCER]

It will cut through the part that would be hitting Muu like this:

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Your laziness reveals itself by the fact that's all you have to say for your argument.

I didn't even read your argument i just seen you say Mu and the Deidara wins. Also i notice you most likly always says any team with Mu on wins. Plus im still waiting on my reply from Mu and Sakura vs Madara.​

 

[Zexion~]

It will cut through the part that would be hitting Muu like this:

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Your laziness reveals itself by the fact that's all you have to say for your argument.

I guess that would work, and it would end up striking Jiraiya as well.