Naruto Manga 492 Discussion and 493 Predictions

[DaiDai]

2) Combining 2 elements doesn't seem to be a Kekki Genkai.. Granted only the 1st and Yamato can do Mokuton.. this may be because of balance... like Naruto in sage training.. if he couldnt balance the chakaras he'd turn into a toad.. This is semi supported by the Danzo fight.. where he started turning into a tree.. he couldn't maintain the balance, and so it started to take him over.. I could be wrong but combining to elements to create a combination of the 2 just doesn't seem like a KG... I think that like with becoming a Sage, the user must have a Huge amount of chakara already in order to keep things balanced.

3) If the Uzumaki clan came from the whirlpool village, the 1st and Haku both had Water as their main elements, and added the other to create their unique jutsu's... Wouldn't Naruto's main element be water then and not Wind?
Also during his element training, wouldn't he have shown another affinity for a different element? I don't think he'd just wake up and say "Hey.. I'm gonna use water elements now.." I must say that your Ideas are very feasible though.. I'd like to think that Naruto's second affinity would be fire.. Combined with rasen shurikken... I think that may put a dent in Ameterasu..

Remember Kakashi said that those in the jounin level usually have atleast two elemental affinities

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. So it is possible for naruto to develop water later on.

And a kekkei genkai is the combination of two elemental affinities,

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So if naruto develops an affinity for water he can have the same kekkei genkai as Haku because he will have both water/wind elements and be able to create ice. I dont know if something else could emerge from those two elements, but hopefully if naruto does have another elemental affinity it will be something unique like wind/fire or wind/lighting LOL or maybe wind/earth dont know what would come out of that but lol i sure would love to find out. But if he does have wind/water it would be cool too.

 

[DaiDai]

Ohhh and something else this guys says this to naruto "Sit here and close your eyes naruto. You will see who you truly are inside."

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We can assume that the evil naruto is the kyubi, since that is what is inside naruto. But most likely there is a twist and probably it isn't the kyubi at all. How about if that evil naruto is that dark naruto that could have been if naruto would've never became friends with sakura/sasuke/kakashi, etc. Like naruto said back when he saved sakura from being killed by sasuke after the Danzo fight, that he could've been in sasuke shoes/predicament if he never had seen the light.

Give me your thoughts!!!!! IDK if am over thinking this but am pretty sure there is a twist to that evil naruto, and maybe is not the kyubi as many of us think it is.

 

[Pupps]

Remember Kakashi said that those in the jounin level usually have atleast two elemental affinities

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. So it is possible for naruto to develop water later on.

And a kekkei genkai is the combination of two elemental affinities,

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.

So if naruto develops an affinity for water he can have the same kekkei genkai as Haku because he will have both water/wind elements and be able to create ice. I dont know if something else could emerge from those two elements, but hopefully if naruto does have another elemental affinity it will be something unique like wind/fire or wind/lighting LOL or maybe wind/earth dont know what would come out of that but lol i sure would love to find out. But if he does have wind/water it would be cool too.

I agree with you completly

 

[baah]

very nice! However there are just a few flaws...
1) Naruto destroyed the crystal necklace during the Pein fight... so that wont be in the story anymore... and as I understood it, the necklace was a tool for Yamato to help control the Kyuubi (being a clone of the 1st) although it did seem to suppress the Kyuubi to a point.. I don't think it had any direct link to the Bijuu's though.. at least that was never stated..

Haashi's ability to control the Bijuu's came from being a descendant of the 2 sons of SO6P.. the younger was given the lifeforce and body of SO6P.. Which imo are the keys to controling the Bijuu.. along with an immense willpower hence Lifeforce... Naruto does seem to have these...

2) Combining 2 elements doesn't seem to be a Kekki Genkai.. Granted only the 1st and Yamato can do Mokuton.. this may be because of balance... like Naruto in sage training.. if he couldnt balance the chakaras he'd turn into a toad.. This is semi supported by the Danzo fight.. where he started turning into a tree.. he couldn't maintain the balance, and so it started to take him over.. I could be wrong but combining to elements to create a combination of the 2 just doesn't seem like a KG... I think that like with becoming a Sage, the user must have a Huge amount of chakara already in order to keep things balanced.

3) If the Uzumaki clan came from the whirlpool village, the 1st and Haku both had Water as their main elements, and added the other to create their unique jutsu's... Wouldn't Naruto's main element be water then and not Wind?
Also during his element training, wouldn't he have shown another affinity for a different element? I don't think he'd just wake up and say "Hey.. I'm gonna use water elements now.." I must say that your Ideas are very feasible though.. I'd like to think that Naruto's second affinity would be fire.. Combined with rasen shurikken... I think that may put a dent in Ameterasu..

Keep up the good work though!

yamato creates wood by releasing water element on one hand and earth on the other hand while doing hand seals...but Im not sure if mizukage uses 2 elements simultaneously like yamato nor uses 3 kekei genkais at the same time to create acid and goo...

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

Ohhh and something else this guys says this to naruto "Sit here and close your eyes naruto. You will see who you truly are inside."

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That being said and this popping out

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We can assume that the evil naruto is the kyubi, since that is what is inside naruto. But most likely there is a twist and probably it isn't the kyubi at all. How about if that evil naruto is that dark naruto that could have been if naruto would've never became friends with sakura/sasuke/kakashi, etc. Like naruto said back when he saved sakura from being killed by sasuke after the Danzo fight, that he could've been in sasuke shoes/predicament if he never had seen the light.

Give me your thoughts!!!!! IDK if am over thinking this but am pretty sure there is a twist to that evil naruto, and maybe is not the kyubi as many of us think it is.

Yup u r right well from the beginning I thought it was Naruto's evil form which he would have been if not saved by team 7 not the Kyuubi and I guess most of the guys thought of it as well

 

[WhiteRabbit]

3) If the Uzumaki clan came from the whirlpool village, the 1st and Haku both had Water as their main elements, and added the other to create their unique jutsu's... Wouldn't Naruto's main element be water then and not Wind?
Also during his element training, wouldn't he have shown another affinity for a different element? I don't think he'd just wake up and say "Hey.. I'm gonna use water elements now.." I must say that your Ideas are very feasible though.. I'd like to think that Naruto's second affinity would be fire.. Combined with rasen shurikken... I think that may put a dent in Ameterasu..

My thought on the second affinity for Naruto is that it is in fact water but his water affinity is currently balancing the fire of the Fox to help keep it in check and will only manifest once the kyuubi is removed from Naruto or he gains control over it. He is set up to be the opposite of Sasuke in so many ways that it doesn't make sense to me for him to have any other element (unless he has water +.) If you look at the chart below each element is boosted by the one that comes after it in a clockwise motion and weak to the one before it. Meaning Water > Fire > Wind > Lightning > Earth > Water. Naruto with Water and Wind is hand made to defeat Sasuke with Fire and Lightning. At least that is my guess.

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[zapp42823]

Everyone is talking about the Gai vs Kisame part two but one must remember that the entire team Gai was barely able to beat a 30% clone of Kisame. And Gai pretty much showed all his powers. At best what Gai can do is release all the 8 gates but that means Gai will die and even then were are not sure whether Kisame will be defeated or not

thats why ebisu and yamato san is there, they will help him to annihilate kisame. and naruto for the final touch. at that time he finally control the beast and use it against kisame...

 

[zapp42823]

ninja ninja ninja

 

[naturo9]

imo, water is naruto's next element, i remember seing water when seeing or talking to the kyuubi and at one time, naruto's seems drowning or maybe steel from kyuubi's cage.

 

[uhIpooped]

Oh... I thought a KG was more unique to particular families and clans... like Shino(?) and Inochi... or like the dojutsu's... nat combining elements... thanks for the correction
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[Byakugan power]

NOTE - LONG EXPLANATION


I believe Naruto has a secret kekkei genkai ability that is unknown to most everyone in the series. The following theory will attempt to prove this possiblity.


The first piece of evidence that supports my theory is a statement by Yamato. In chapter 299, entitled "The Source of Strength", Yamato makes the following observations about the Kyuubi's chakra:

Naruto Chapter 299 page 4

"The Kyuubi's chakra is acting like poison...entering through her wound. Something like that can't simply be healed by Sakura's level of healing jutsu. Which makes me even more surprised that Naruto is able to endure it."

Just a few pages later Yamato makes the following statement while speaking to Naruto:

Naruto chapter 299 page 11

"Your true strength isn't from Kyuubi's power, and the reason you're able to stand Kyuubi's chakra is because of the strength of your own chakra."

The above quote implies that Naruto's own chakra holds some special properties that normal people's chakra lack. Naruto, on his own can withstand the negative effects of the Kyuubi's chakra. This is a fact supported by the manga itself.


There are currently only two known kekkei genkai abilities that can control the Kyuubi's chakra. The first is the Mangekyou Sharingan as noted here & here. While unconfirmed, it is believed that Mangekyou Sharingan controls the Kyuubi through the use of genjutsu. It is quite obvious that Naruto has neither Mangekyou Sharingan or genjutsu strong enough to control the Kyuubi. The only other known kekkei genkai that possesses the ability to control Kyuubi chakra is the unnamed kekkei genkai ability of Hashirama Senju, the first hokage. Yamato, a clone of Hashirama demonstrates this ability here & here. He then explains why only he can use the ability here & here

It is my belief that the hidden kekkei genkai that Naruto possesses is the same one Hashirama Senju had. I also believe that Haku of the land of water also had this ability. The abilities of Haku & Hashirama were simply named after the elements they created by combining their elemental affinities. Hashirama's being Mokuton(earth+water) & Haku's being Hyouton(wind+water). I believe their abilities came from the same source. That source is the kekkei genkai(bloodline limit) of the Uzumaki clan.


The Uzumaki clan is a complete unknown at this point, however we do known Naruto's mother was from the Uzumaki clan, as well as the Whirlpool Country. It is possible that the former Whirlpool Country was the home of the Uzumaki clan, however something happened to the Whirlpool Country. Since it is refered to as the "former" Whirlpool Country, it is safe to assume something happened to the country to cause it to no longer exist. I believe there are only two possible answers for what happened to the Whirlpool Country, it was either completely destroyed by some event/natural disaster or it was overthrown & renamed by the invaders. I believe it was the later. The Whirlpool Country was overthrown by a coup de'tat, led by none other than Madara Uchiha(I'll elaborate on this further later).


Kushina Uzumaki was from the ruling family of the Uzumaki clan, she was saved from certain death during the coup de'tat & taken to Konoha to be with her distant cousins the Senjus. Hashirama & his brother were the sons of an Uzumaki mother. It is the Uzumaki women that carry the kekkei genkai of the Uzumaki clan. Hashirama's mother married a man from the Senju of the Forest. It is my belief that Hashirama got his earth elemental affinity from his father & his water elemental affinity from his mother. This would also explain why Nidaime was so skilled with his water elemental jutsu. The affinity for water is most likely pasted down through the Uzumaki genes in a similiar manner to the fire elemental affinity of the Uchiha clan. Kushina would have known of the Uzumaki's clan kekkei genkai & she would have been able to tell Minato that their child would have had the possiblity of containing the Kyuubi.

There are two things that further reinforce my belief. Kishimoto often uses symbolism to hint at certain plot points. I believe the following instances of symbolism point to a connection betweeb Naruto & Hashirama Senju:

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Naruto has just defaced the Hokage monument, he even signs his work. The funny thing about this is where Naruto signs his name. Naruto's name appears on Hashirama, the Shodaime Hokage & Minato Namikaze, the Yondaime Hokage. One of these men has already been revealed to be Naruto's father, could the other also have a blood relation to Naruto?
Also, to prove that what Naruto places on the Hokage monument is indeed the signature of his last name Uzumaki, I offer this, Naruto's signature on the summoning pact he made with Gamabunta. Naruto signs the name Uzumaki with the same spiral he wears as a clan symbol. The spiral is the symbol of the Uzumaki clan.

To further show the connection between Hashirama & Naruto, we simply need to look at the uniform of all Konoha ninja. The uniform has the spiral symbol of the Uzumaki. It is my belief that Hashirama did this to pay tribute to the source of his kekkei genaki, the same kekkei genkai that allowed him to defeat Madara Uchiha. During his battle with Madara Uchiha, Hashirama wore the uniform of the Senju clan, however after that event the Senju clan's uniform was no longer used.

Then there is that defining moment at the Valley of the End, were Naruto stood on Hashirama's head & Sasuke on Madara's head, here. There is also the fact that Naruto is in possession of Hashirama's chakra crystal necklace. The very necklace that Hashirama used to control bijuu, why give Naruto this necklace if he will never make use of it?



Now, I also believe that Haku share the same blood as Naruto & Hashirama. I believe that the current Water Country was once the former Whirlpool Country. Madara Uchiha after his defeat at the hands of Hashirama, took the opportunity his apparent death gave him to leave the land of fire. Madara Uchiha went in search of the source of Hashirama's power & he found it. Madara Uchiha learned that Hashirama was a descended of the Uzumaki clan & that the Uzumaki clan had a special kekkei genkai. Madara wanted to destory the source of Hashirama Senju's power, so he started a rebellion against the Uzumaki clan, rulers of the then Whirlpool Country. The civil war lead to the death of many Uzumaki clan members as well as other clans with kekkei genkai abilities from the Whirlpool Country. Madara's side won & the Whirlpool Country was renamed the Water Country. Madara became the Mizukage. Those with kekkei genkai abilities were persecuted, those who were still alive went into hiding.

Haku's mother was one of the Uzumaki clan members that survived, she fled to the snowy northern region of the now Water Country. Their she met a man & got married. She eventually gave birth to Haku, of course you know what happened next. Haku discovered the Uzumaki clan's kekkei genkai on his own. His father then killed his mother & Haku killed his father & the other villagers in self defense. Those with kekkei genkai abilities were considered the cause of the civil war, so they were always hunted & killed. Haku met Zabuza & they begin their journey together. Haku combined his water elemental chakra & wind elemental chakra to create Hyouton(the ice element). Haku used his elemental affinities to create Hyouton because he was born in a snowy region of the Water Country & it was natural for him to create ice.


In conclusion, it is my belief that Naruto possesses the same kekkei genkai as Hashirama Senju & Haku of the Water Country. Naruto's second elemental affinity will be water & he will use his kekkei genkai to combine his wind & water elemental affinities to create a rain/storm element. Since Naruto is from a warmer climate this will be more natural for him, but he might also be able to create Hyouton. Naruto will be able to control the rain itself. He will also be able to create whirlpools & tidalwaves as well. Naruto may also discover a third elemental affinity for earth, allowing him to use Mokuton as well. Another thing is since Naruto possesses Shodaime's chakra crystal necklace, he will receive the same benefit that Shodaime did. Naruto will be able to bend Bijuu's & their chakra to his will. The only thing keeping Naruto's kekkei genkai from manifesting is the Kyuubi. Naruto will eventually lose the Kyuubi, but I'll save that for another theory.

Dude thats one awesome analysis. I give 20/10, you should probably make your own manga xd

 

[Byakugan power]

i think that u r on to something. they do look really similar

Geez guys hes name is Aoba Yamashira, he is Jonin and has crow and fireball jutsus

 

[shadpow]

Geez guys hes name is Aoba Yamashira, he is Jonin and has crow and fireball jutsus

i Though it was Ebisu

 

[shadpow]

Dude thats one awesome analysis. I give 20/10, you should probably make your own manga xd

Yea I agree

 

[Akatsuki leader]

thats why ebisu and yamato san is there, they will help him to annihilate kisame. and naruto for the final touch. at that time he finally control the beast and use it against kisame...

i dont think kisame is going to die now...... and that man is not ebisu... ebisu has another glasses.....

 

[DaiDai]

Oh... I thought a KG was more unique to particular families and clans... like Shino(?) and Inochi... or like the dojutsu's... nat combining elements... thanks for the correction
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Same thing i thought, but am guessing those are some types of other KG's. Like shinos clan KG he made a contract with the bugs if i am correct and they feed off his chakra or something like that. Ill look into it because i know that is another type of KG.

 

[Pervyy]

Oh... I thought a KG was more unique to particular families and clans... like Shino(?) and Inochi... or like the dojutsu's... nat combining elements... thanks for the correction
:hug:

A kg can be both, either a unique family ability like the sharingan or combining elements to make acid techs or something

 

[uchiha123456]

Status: PREDICTION
by: Hyperninja4

Naruto 493: Evil Naruto vs Naruto

Sakura: Milady, where is Naruto?
Tsunade: He's somewhere safe. I cannot delvuge the location. But he's safe. Naruto does not know why he is there, he thinks it for more training
Sakura: So you lied to him!! You decied to not tell him?!
Tsunade: Yes but its for his own good!
Sakura: Then i'll go to tell him
Tsunade: You'll do no such thing! I did not tell him becuase he would refuse. I did not agree with this but its for the right thing. Besides you don't know the way nor is it safe. Now get to the hospital, you have people to heal.
Sakura: Yes milady *sadly walks off* Thinking: Naruto, i hope you are ok.
Evil Naruto- They are fakes. The whole lot of them. First they hate ya now they like you? That's bull, deep down they hate you Espcaily that Skank, she was trying to mess with you head and break your heart
Naruto- *Shaking* SHUT UP! Sakura was not trying to mess with me. She cares about me

This is a PREDICTION --- NOT A SPOILER
Yamato: What is going on?
Moti- Its his evil self. He'll need to concor it to proceed to the next step
Evil naruto- You are weak. You could not even keep a promise.
Naruto: I Said shut the hell up you a******! *He charges at Evil Naruto*
Evil Naruto: *punches him and throws him against the wall of the waterfall* Heh, just what i thought weak.

Yamato- *Runs to Naruto but Moti stops him
Moti: No He needs do this himself.
Evil Naruto- *Keeps beating Naruto* None respects you. They treated you like dirt. Now you think they care about you. Why did they send you here? To dispose of you. They don't think your capabule to fight. To them you are somthing that they just want to disapear.

Naruto: thinking: I must fight it. I must fight the hatred. * He grabs the evil counterpart and throws him across the water* You are never going to control me! Nor is the Kyubii from this day forward i will the Master and the Kyubbi will have to take orders from me! *Punches the evil Naruto* You are just part of my soul and i never want you to show you face again you got that?!


Evil Naruto: It will take more than- WHATS GOING ON?! *The Evil naruto begins to fade* You Bastard what have you done?!
Moti: Naruto is not letting it take over his body and therefore the Evil Naruto is disapearing.
Evil Naruto:NOOOOOOOOO You idoit. Without hatred, without evil you are nothing! *dispears*
Naruto: No, without evil i will become stronger. *pants* I did i- *pases out*
Moti: I think we should rest

Naruto 494: 2nd Step Begins


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[Pupps]

Dude thats one awesome analysis. I give 20/10, you should probably make your own manga xd

Thanks

 

[uchiha123456]

Status: PREDICTION
by: Onayako

Naruto 493: Dilemma


Naruto Scene:

Naruto: Whoaaa, whaaaaat! Who the hell are you?
Dark Naruto: Too stupid to figure out something as always! How shall I tell this to such an idiot like you. Mhmmm. I am YOU Naruto.(Evil Grin)
Naruto: Why do you talk like that? What do you want?!
Dark Naruto: Hahahaha, don't make me laugh? You are the one who came to this place, so you tell me Naruto, what do YOU want?
Naruto remembers Gamatora's speech for how to control Kyuubi's chakra.
Naruto: I'm here to learn the control the stupid fox. And I have a feeling that you are the hatred within me. Once I'm done with you, I'll be one step closer to control Kyuubi!
Dark Naruto: HAHAHHAAHA
This is a PREDICTION --- NOT A SPOILER
Gai Scene:

Gai is seen doing upside down push ups.
Gai: 7865,7866,7867,7868,7869,....
Kumo-nin: Heeey, mister aren't you overdoing this a little bit?
Gai: Hahahaha, overdoing? This is just my usual morning warming exercise. One needs to enjoy his youthfulness afterall.
Kumo-nin: Still you don't have to ove.....
Gai: HAHAHAHAHA. LET THE POWER OF THE YOUTH EXPLODE!!!
Kumo-nin: Do as you like.
Gai: Ooops, I'm in trouble, I forgot the count!
Kumo-nin: ...

Kirabi scene:

Samehada is seen trembling.
Kirabi: Now what's wrong with this sword?
Kisame thinking: Samehada took the smell of that Konoha jounin. It got so excited that now it's trembling. Just a little longer Samehada and I'll let you feast upon the beast oh yeaaa. (This mission better off soon or my talking habit will completely change)

Back to Naruto Scene:

Dark Naruto: Not that you can get rid of me so easily, tell me Naruto, what about Sasuke then?(Evil Grin)
Naruto: You bastard, what's this got to do with Sasuke?
Dark Naruto: First of all, why do you think you feel Sasuke so close to you? Let me tell you, you idiot. It's because just like you, Sasuke knows the pain, anger and the hatred that solitude brings. This is what draws you two closer. This is the very essence of the bond between you and Sasuke. I AM THE BOND BETWEEN YOU AND SASUKE!!! Tell me you dumbass, how can you hope to understand Sasuke and his revenge once you get rid of me! Tell me how will you save him?!!!
Naruto thinking: In order to defeat Sasuke, I need the power of the fox. But if I lose the hatred within me, I will no longer be able to understand Sasuke, even in death, I won't be able to truly save him...
Dark Naruto: So Naruto tell me, what is your answer?
Naruto: I will... I will...
Unkown aproaching figure: You will never go back on your word, because that is your Nindo, right Naruto-kun?
Naruto: You are!
Itachi: Truly amazing Nindo you got, Naruto-kun.(Smile)

Naruto 494: A Talk With Itachi


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