[Theory] Does Anyone Think Koshiro Killed Kuina or maybe Tashigi is her

[Henry1350cent]

I was watching the old episode of one piece when zoro faced kuina and etc. So then the next day her father told zoro that she died from falling down the stairs. Something tells me she didn't die from falling down the stairs but maybe her father killed her. Since the person told Koshiro himself that a female cant hold the dojo since they might be weak. Also Tashigi and her look very similar by facial features what do u think o.o ?

 

[Dr Gilgamesh]

Funny that you mention it, just yesterday I read a theory that Koshiro has two personalities (similar to Cavendish) and that his second personality killed Kuina and will face Zoro in Wa No Kuni. Personally I don't think so but it's food for thought I guess.

 

[Legend Slayer]

I can't remember which member it was but someone came up with a theory about Wano/Zou and Tashigi being Kuina's sister and it was quite convincing to say the least

 

[kageking]

Kuina did fall down the stairs but she didn't die. She suffered retrograde amnesia. Her father took this as an opportunity to have his daughter fulfill her dreams and sent her to the marines with the alias tashigi. He freed her from the burden of inheriting his dojo and the prejudice she'd suffer and gave her a fresh start. Or at least that's what I like to think .

 

[Joon]

Always thought it was her, but she would have recognized him, no?

 

[BaseGodNaruto]

She's not dead a character stronger than Zorro. You know Oda ain't letting that be the end of it he doesn't make simple deaths like with ode most likely she's in the revolutionary army I can bet

 

[Caliburn]

I was watching the old episode of one piece when zoro faced kuina and etc. So then the next day her father told zoro that she died from falling down the stairs. Something tells me she didn't die from falling down the stairs but maybe her father killed her. Since the person told Koshiro himself that a female cant hold the dojo since they might be weak. Also Tashigi and her look very similar by facial features what do u think o.o ?

Why would her own father kill her? Killing your only child because she might not be as strong as you want her to be, seems rather pointless as then there's no heir at all.

Funny that you mention it, just yesterday I read a theory that Koshiro has two personalities (similar to Cavendish) and that his second personality killed Kuina and will face Zoro in Wa No Kuni. Personally I don't think so but it's food for thought I guess.

The last time Koshiro was shown, he was still back at Zoro's home village in East Blue and following the chronology of the series, that was barely two weeks ago. How could he get so fast in the New World? I did however always had the believe that Koshiro was far stronger than he appears and the most ideal situation to elaborate on that would probably be the Wano country arc.

 

[BaseGodNaruto]

Why would her own father kill her? Killing your only child because she might not be as strong as you want her to be, seems rather pointless as then there's no heir at all.



The last time Koshiro was shown, he was still back at Zoro's home village in East Blue and following the chronology of the series, that was barely two weeks ago. How could he get so fast in the New World? I did however always had the believe that Koshiro was far stronger than he appears and the most ideal situation to elaborate on that would probably be the Wano country arc.

Same way marines do crossing calm belt he's no pirate

 

[Caliburn]

Same way marines do crossing calm belt he's no pirate

And you think that the marine battleships are freely accessible by anyone? That's the same thing as saying that the navy battleships of the American marines act like public civilian transportation. Not to mention if just those battleships would make everything that easy, the Grand Line and especially the New World wouldn't be considered such a dangerous place.

 

[Henry1350cent]

Why would her own father kill her? Killing your only child because she might not be as strong as you want her to be, seems rather pointless as then there's no heir at all.



The last time Koshiro was shown, he was still back at Zoro's home village in East Blue and following the chronology of the series, that was barely two weeks ago. How could he get so fast in the New World? I did however always had the believe that Koshiro was far stronger than he appears and the most ideal situation to elaborate on that would probably be the Wano country arc.

maybe he wanted zoro to inherit the wado ichimonji blade since he was a boy but he probably wished he had a son but zoro seemed like a prideful man so he just passed on the sword but not to her

 

[Caliburn]

maybe he wanted zoro to inherit the wado ichimonji blade since he was a boy but he probably wished he had a son but zoro seemed like a prideful man so he just passed on the sword but not to her

That's still not a reason to kill her. There isn't a law as far as we know that forces him to give his own sword to his child, he could have given it to Zoro whenever he wanted. It would be weird that he is willing to kill her to give Zoro the sword, but not making her angry for him giving the sword to Zoro. He could even have just waited till the day Zoro beat Kuina. He could then give it under the statement of that he is the strongest person in the Dojo now and Kuina could only agree to that. Also following the cliché story of a dojo master that only has a daughter, he would have wanted to have Zoro, his strongest pupil, marry his only daughter and thus both of them succeeding the dojo.

So I'm not really going for Koshiro killing Kuina for a reason like that.

 

[KCN]

There should be a connection. It just seems like too much of a coincidence Zoro's childhood bestfriend happens to have the exact same face as a woman who also shares a massive passion for swords.

 

[Henry1350cent]

That's still not a reason to kill her. There isn't a law as far as we know that forces him to give his own sword to his child, he could have given it to Zoro whenever he wanted. It would be weird that he is willing to kill her to give Zoro the sword, but not making her angry for him giving the sword to Zoro. He could even have just waited till the day Zoro beat Kuina. He could then give it under the statement of that he is the strongest person in the Dojo now and Kuina could only agree to that. Also following the cliché story of a dojo master that only has a daughter, he would have wanted to have Zoro, his strongest pupil, marry his only daughter and thus both of them succeeding the dojo.

So I'm not really going for Koshiro killing Kuina for a reason like that.

In Samurai Traditions u hear of a man passing down a blade to a man but maybe Koshiro thought women were weak and he probably didn't want his daughter carrying the name of a famous sword and there was this picture in the manga where u see the cloth covering Kuina head maybe he sliced her in the head so maybe koshiro just thought in his head it probably would be better if zoro had the sword

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Koshiro did not kill her. Oda himself said that Kuina died falling down some stairs and is not coming back. HOWEVER, Oda was very slick with that reply. I did a theory on this yesterday. I'll post it here.

 

[TheHokage]

Nope never once thought Kuina was 'dead'. The coincidences between her and Tashigi are far to similar for there not to be a connection. I like the amnesia theory perhaps her gaining her personality back will be Tashigi's sort of power up I mean Smoker is going to be improving leaps ahead of her so she needs some way of keeping up, besides giving Zoro a new healthy rival is always fun.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

In Samurai Traditions u hear of a man passing down a blade to a man but maybe Koshiro thought women were weak and he probably didn't want his daughter carrying the name of a famous sword and there was this picture in the manga where u see the cloth covering Kuina head maybe he sliced her in the head so maybe koshiro just thought in his head it probably would be better if zoro had the sword

Or it could just be there because Kuina hit her head badly when she fell down.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

In Japan, "falling down stairs" is an expression for someone who was met with a terrible fate or misfortune. I still don't believe Kuina and Tashigi are the same person as their ages are different. Tashigi is 23 and Kuina would've been 22.

 

[Relostar Devil]

Why just people accept that kuina is dead. Stop making your own stupid theories, they don't make any sense. I have seen video on YouTube made by Alpha2late17 that says koshiro killed kuina and tashigi will tell zoro in wano kingdom and zoro will leave crew for revenge. And that's just stupid. So if you guys are getting inspired to make your own theories from this nonsense then I recommend you to stop watching OP. Please stop!!!

 

[Caliburn]

In Samurai Traditions u hear of a man passing down a blade to a man but maybe Koshiro thought women were weak and he probably didn't want his daughter carrying the name of a famous sword and there was this picture in the manga where u see the cloth covering Kuina head maybe he sliced her in the head so maybe koshiro just thought in his head it probably would be better if zoro had the sword

Again why would Koshiro kill his one and only daughter just because he wants Zoro to have a sword that he himself first gave to his daughter?

If he wanted Zoro to have the sword, there were several other more plausible scenario's to achieve that. Koshiro was last seen in the series visiting Kuina's grave and what was standing against her grave? A kendo sword.

 

[ichirou]

Kuina did fall down the stairs but she didn't die. She suffered retrograde amnesia. Her father took this as an opportunity to have his daughter fulfill her dreams and sent her to the marines with the alias tashigi. He freed her from the burden of inheriting his dojo and the prejudice she'd suffer and gave her a fresh start. Or at least that's what I like to think .

This is a good possibilty. Good theory bro! It could be followed by Koshiro lying to Kuina about her name and that the sword Zoro has was stolen by some bad guy which sparked her interest in gathering named swords but her father wont let her go and train again because he knew she has no potential to go further and instead turned her over to the marines.