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The Demon Hawk

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I only put that beside it because if you restrict PS in EMS Sasuke threads for some reason people think he can use the standing Susano'O he used along side Naruto on the same scale without Kurama's chakra.

Yes, if I'm not mistaken, he can use full size standing PS in EMS on the same scale without Kurama's chakra. What makes you think he can't? He even did it against Obito when he armored Kurama with PS, because in reality Sasuke's PS had nothing to do with Kurama's chakra, it was purely Sasuke's construct from his own chakra. What makes you think Kurama's chakra advanced the Susanoo to Perfect Susanoo? How exactly did Kurama's chakra affect the Susanoo anyway? And full size standing PS is a peak EMS ability, not obtained through Rinnegan or Kurama's chakra.
 
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Kakashi and gai beat them ,gai can solo KCM Naruto's scenario and kakashi can one shots in EMS sasuke's one.
 

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Yes, if I'm not mistaken, he can use full size standing PS in EMS on the same scale without Kurama's chakra. What makes you think he can't? He even did it against Obito when he armored Kurama with PS, because in reality Sasuke's PS had nothing to do with Kurama's chakra, it was purely Sasuke's construct from his own chakra. What makes you think Kurama's chakra advanced the Susanoo to Perfect Susanoo? How exactly did Kurama's chakra affect the Susanoo anyway? And full size standing PS is a peak EMS ability, not obtained through Rinnegan or Kurama's chakra.

I'm not saying he can't use PS without Kurama's chakra bruh
 

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masters win both if its 2 v 1.

in, 1 vs 1 sasuke mid dif both of them. naruto loses to gai but beats kakashi.
 

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I'm not saying he can't use PS without Kurama's chakra bruh

Yes, I know. You're saying that he COULDN'T use PS without Kurama's chakra when he was on EMS level. But EMS Sasuke could use it (without Kurama's chakra or Rinnegan). That's what I was trying to explain in my previous post... But on the contrary, if you mean that EMS Sasuke could use PS without external aid, and you're restricting it unconditionally, then I'm sorry for bothering you without understanding what you were saying.
 

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Yes, I know. You're saying that he COULDN'T use PS without Kurama's chakra when he was on EMS level. But EMS Sasuke could use it (without Kurama's chakra or Rinnegan). That's what I was trying to explain in my previous post... But on the contrary, if you mean that EMS Sasuke could use PS without external aid, and you're restricting it unconditionally, then I'm sorry for bothering you without understanding what you were saying.

Nope, I never said that either
 

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Nope, I never said that either

Then refer to the bolded part of my post (below)...

Yes, I know. You're saying that he COULDN'T use PS without Kurama's chakra when he was on EMS level. But EMS Sasuke could use it (without Kurama's chakra or Rinnegan). That's what I was trying to explain in my previous post... But on the contrary, if you mean that EMS Sasuke could use PS without external aid, and you're restricting it unconditionally, then I'm sorry for bothering you without understanding what you were saying.
 

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Then refer to the bolded part of my post (below)...

Oh sorry, I only read the first bit of your post. All I was saying is that his Standing Susano'O would logically be around the size of Edo Madara's without Kurama's chakra
 
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