Kisame vs Kakuzu

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The fight takes place in the forest of dead trees.
Distance 25m
They are both holding nothing back.
 

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Kisame has the perfect weapon to defeat Kakuzu, who will have to go Taijutsu.
 

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Kisame wins it with no more than mid diff.
 

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Kisame wins extremely-high diff.

If the fight starts with Kakuzu transformed, even if Kisame is transformed also, as long as he's very far away, he stomps.
 

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Kisame with higher end of low diff.
 

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As usual, Kisame punks him mid difficulty at the very worst. Someone who can tango with V2 B is clearly on another level to Kakuzu, shouldn't be debatable. At all.
 

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Kisame wins mid diff. Kakuzu's arsenal gets trolled by Samehada and Daikoden.
 

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As usual, Kisame punks him mid difficulty at the very worst. Someone who can tango with V2 B is clearly on another level to Kakuzu, shouldn't be debatable. At all.

Lol?

ABC Logic? Kisame stated himself he was the perfect opponent to Jin's so relax yourself.

Kakuzu can tango with V2 B all he wants btw? He just can't put him down.
 

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Lol?

ABC Logic? Kisame stated himself he was the perfect opponent to Jin's so relax yourself.

Kakuzu can tango with V2 B all he wants btw? He just can't put him down.

Kisame poops on this dude by feats. He's the perfect opponent for Jinchuuriki for the same reason why he obliterates Kakuzu. Cause he can absorb shit loads of chakra, and Kakuzu's main fighting force are his elemental Ninjutsu. His threads aren't even worth talking about.

It's not high diff. Get that nonsense out of your head. More like low-mid diff, or mid diff at the worst. Not going to mid-high and it definitely isn't high.

Lmao, bold is the best joke I've heard all day.

-Can't hurt him.
-Can't hinder him in any way.
-Can't take some of B's attacks.

Yet somehow he "tangos" with him? Bruh. No.
 

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Kisame poops on this dude by feats. He's the perfect opponent for Jinchuuriki for the same reason why he obliterates Kakuzu. Cause he can absorb shit loads of chakra, and Kakuzu's main fighting force are his elemental Ninjutsu. His threads aren't even worth talking about.

It's not high diff. Get that nonsense out of your head. More like low-mid diff, or mid diff at the worst. Not going to mid-high and it definitely isn't high.

Lmao, bold is the best joke I've heard all day.

-Can't hurt him.
-Can't hinder him in any way.
-Can't take some of B's attacks.

Yet somehow he "tangos" with him? Bruh. No.

Which of his attacks can't he take? Please tell me? Hinder him? Bruh, Gian's raikiri level with much more force behind it, so its pushing back the Jin at least, all of his jutsu can basically halt him from a decent range and then Domu is there to tank any CQC attacks.

:lol

He can absorb chakra? Your point? Still can't touch Kakuzu? While until he fuses Kakuzu can take him out in all sorts of ways, literally he NEEDS, WD to win this, which he wouldn't use right away IC.

Even when it is up, Kakuzu has ways to combat him, and do so without having to worry about escaping really, while Kisame will still be outnumbered, and threads are still viable regardless if he can suck chakra out of them or not.

He's not "slicing them with his bones" as you've said before as those bones are clearly only able to pierce barely.

Kisame on land's speed<<<Kakashi's btw


@Lame debater who likes to troll, he loses is all I meant by that, if you were relevant i'm sure your massive persona change calls for some different opinions as well, and I could find them.
 
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Tbh, the bones seem more like a partial manifestation of Samehada, like the thrills coming out. He'd literally either need Kaguya-clan level bone manipulation to either generate the bones or redirect the ones present in his arm to face that direction, which'd fock up the entire limb.
 

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Tbh, the bones seem more like a partial manifestation of Samehada, like the thrills coming out. He'd literally either need Kaguya-clan level bone manipulation to either generate the bones or redirect the ones present in his arm to face that direction, which'd fock up the entire limb.

Yeah, its just easier to say bones my man.
 

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Which of his attacks can't he take? Please tell me? Hinder him? Bruh, Gian's raikiri level with much more force behind it, so its pushing back the Jin at least, all of his jutsu can basically halt him from a decent range and then Domu is there to tank any CQC attacks.

-He can't take any Raiton attack. Period.
-Gian didn't do shit when Kakashi just stood there with his Raikiri. It pushing back Killer B in V2 is an extremely bad joke. Don't make it again.
-Katon is useless. B literally bathes in it just how weaker cloaked Shinobi have bathed in stronger fire.
-Fuuton? Once again, tanked with zero difficulty. If it can blow him away, he can just evade it considering Kakashi evaded it point blank while in mid air+a distraction from Hidan.

Domu is useless due to Raiton.



He can absorb chakra? Your point? Still can't touch Kakuzu? While until he fuses Kakuzu can take him out in all sorts of ways, literally he NEEDS, WD to win this, which he wouldn't use right away IC.

What a joke. Please enlighten us.


Even when it is up, Kakuzu has ways to combat him, and do so without having to worry about escaping really, while Kisame will still be outnumbered, and threads are still viable regardless if he can suck chakra out of them or not.

Don't wank son. I can somewhat see Kakuzu pushing him to upper mid diff if he can't use Water Dome, but him fighting Kisame underwater is probably the biggest joke I've seen today. Why must you constantly overrate this sub par guy?

-All Elemental attacks are absolutely useless for obvious reasons.
-Threads are easily evaded, or easily torn to threads by thousand sharks.
-Daikodan one shots.


He's not "slicing them with his bones" as you've said before as those bones are clearly only able to pierce barely.

Kisame on land's speed<<<Kakashi's btw

Those bones are partial manifestation of Samehada, which is a sword. Swords can cut. So no this "only able to pierce" point doesn't work. They were only shown to pierce because they were only used to pierce.

Kisame's speed on land doesn't matter when Kisame can absorb his attacks, nor does it matter when Kisame can turn the whole battlefield into a giant lake and maneuver around underwater with his sharks.
 

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kakuzu wins. kisames arsenal gets trolled by threads & nature combos
 

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-He can't take any Raiton attack. Period.
-Gian didn't do shit when Kakashi just stood there with his Raikiri. It pushing back Killer B in V2 is an extremely bad joke. Don't make it again.
-Katon is useless. B literally bathes in it just how weaker cloaked Shinobi have bathed in stronger fire.
-Fuuton? Once again, tanked with zero difficulty. If it can blow him away, he can just evade it considering Kakashi evaded it point blank while in mid air+a distraction from Hidan.

Do we have to go through this every time, so you're saying while mid-blitz on Kakuzu he's going to avoid it perfectly? Either way it gets him off of attacking Kakuzu although its not like he has great reaction feats, because why would he? As you said he's a tank.

Katon trips him up, doesn't matter how strong he is, everything uses feet to remain standing, he could of course press himself into the ground but that too, gets him off of attacking Kakuzu.

Bruh...gian was negated by Raikiri? When an element is negated before it can touch the opponent the force tends to be gone as well? Even so it pushed him back a bit showing that Kakuzu probably has superior raiton mastery.

Pretty sure his shit ain't acid so threads can still be viable if not to merely throw him away.

Domu is useless due to Raiton.

How? Pretty sure he can't coat his jin cloak (which is already chakra) with raiton chakra to make a lariat? Even if he did a lariat doesn't pierce anything really, I could be wrong as I don't recall his fight with MS Sasuke that much. Only pierced Kisame due to his jin bones and raiton wasn't really used there. So what exactly is his raiton going to do to Kakuzu? Who can take force attacks all day long.





What a joke. Please enlighten us.

Kisame doesn't hold onto Samehada very tightly as shown with the facts that he's dropped it on occasion so Kakuzu grabbing it with his threads that blitzed Kakashi is a thing, especially if he's trying to absorb and elemental attack. Which gets me to my other point how exactly can he absorb something as massive as Kakuzu's fuuton given the fact that it would encompass him completely? He's be nothing more then a dot in the center of the storm? But no matter he can't absorb from all sides until he's fused and as I said he doesn't have top tier speed its his reactions that make him able to deal with the faster shinobi. But physical reactions won't help him with such massive jutsu, along with the fact that they're quick as well. Then there is the fact that everything he throws at Kakuzu is tanked in terms of ninjutsu and if he tries to take him out with swipes of samehada he gets caught in the threads?

Yes Samehada can slice them but he's not nimble enough with the massive sword to slice more than one line of threads at a time so he'd still be grabbed. He needs WD to win this :lol how you think he takes down Kakuzu without it....




Don't wank son. I can somewhat see Kakuzu pushing him to upper mid diff if he can't use Water Dome, but him fighting Kisame underwater is probably the biggest joke I've seen today. Why must you constantly overrate this sub par guy?

I don't even overrate him anymore? You just give the whole base negative vibes on him with your "Base Naruto solo's GG" annoyance and the groups consistency to try and insult me on defending him. I've wanked him in the past by saying he can beat Minato, Tobirama and a kage or two (still think he takes trollkage) but he's not sub par by any means and was an interesting character when Naruto was at its peak.

-All Elemental attacks are absolutely useless for obvious reasons.

Not useles, his fuuton/katon combo can take down the water dome (its a structure, remove a chunk of it and it all falls) sure Kisame can put it back up again, but again that provides an opening for Kakuzu.

-Threads are easily evaded, or easily torn to threads by thousand sharks.

Easily evaded? Why no one has ever succesfully evaded the threads in the manga so I don't know why you underrate them, his elemental jutsu? Sure I can see why you would be hesitant to notice they're strength. But the threads have literally never, been evaded. So you're saying that Kisame who needs to engage CQC, is going to successfully avoid all of while Kakuzu is casually sittting at the bottom of the dome like a sea plant, just waiting to snatch him, need I remind you how fast they can travel fast enough to smash the ground, sure he can evade a few but if Kakuzu sends them out from different angles and at different times it becomes harder. Then there is the fact that he can jump use those tentacles to propel himself in a direction if he needs to move which would give him enough burst for a short enough time to avoid being blitzed by Kisame.

Thousand sharks? Fuuton + Katon combo is a thing, and sadly since the thousand sharks are used piled up on each other in such a large manner, the jutsu can hit from basically anywhere.

-Daikodan one shots.

Ahh this is what I was thinking about, can GSB absorb internal chakra? I don't think it can as its supposed to absorb jutsu and grow larger, now
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Domu sends chakra throughout the body to create the hardened skin, if it were ABOVE the skin it would create basically an earth cloak, but that isn't the case, nor does it create a new layer so by logic it seems that the chakra used is within Kakuzu himself hardening the skin. Its questionable if GSB can absorb that....and Doton>Suiton.

Then there is the fact that Kakuzu can rip it from the inside with his threads, causing it to lose its form.



Those bones are partial manifestation of Samehada, which is a sword. Swords can cut. So no this "only able to pierce" point doesn't work. They were only shown to pierce because they were only used to pierce.

Uhm? No They barely pierced through a normal human they merely keep the victim in place for Kisame to absorb chakra. Don't try and make up you're own FF with something that has next to no evidence.

-They can't pierce through a human being = They aren't swords. Then there is the fact that Samehada already isn't a very good sword when it comes to slicing, it merely has scales that cut the opponent when used.

Then of course look where they are located. On the back of his fin, it would be quite hard to move in such a fashion as to succesfully slice a large piece of threads.

Kisame's speed on land doesn't matter when Kisame can absorb his attacks, nor does it matter when Kisame can turn the whole battlefield into a giant lake and maneuver around underwater with his sharks.

Again, Samehada can't absorb from all directions if he does that he's going to be repeatedly electrocuted by raikiri level raiton chakra as it spreads throughout the "lake". Not to mention Kakuzu won't be forced in there so don't see how that would help him much.
 
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