Sasukes Revolution would have succeeded

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You sounded like you knew the answer to your own question. Why would I know the answer to something like that. Cooperation for peace of mankind is a fantasy because people will always dispute internally and externally. It's only a matter of time before these unions are torn down and attack each others throats for resources. You talk as if the world as achieved the peace worldwide but that isn't the case...

Just misguided pessimism. These unions, this cooperation, has lasted years and as I said before people who have things to lose will be less likely to fight with each other. You want cooperation to bring some eternal peace but disregard what has done and what is has been proven to do.

Some theoretical fictional peace driven by fear will only bring more war, hatred, bloodshed and ultimately repeating itself till the actors are dead.
 
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Just misguided pessimism. These unions, this cooperation, has lasted years and as I said before people who have things to lose will be less likely to fight with each other. You want cooperation to bring some eternal peace but disregard what has done and what is has been proven to do.

Some theoretical fictional peace driven by fear will only bring more war, hatred, bloodshed and ultimately repeating itself till the actors are dead.

All I'm saying is this cooperation your praising isn't by any means perfect. I'm not dismissing it's accomplishments but you are disregarding its flaws entirely.
 

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All I'm saying is this cooperation your praising isn't by any means perfect. I'm not dismissing it's accomplishments but you are disregarding its flaws entirely.

I'm not calling it perfect, I'm calling it the best way to cease conflict. Meanwhile you call it a fantasy :|
 

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Well as long as someone is there to carry naruto's ideals. There'll be peace.
 

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Well if everybody hates the people that believe in Sasuke, that means they are well known.... Meaning that Sasuke would be able to find out who those people are. Common sense, how can everybody hate somebody or something, yet not know about it?

i didn't say he won't know about them, I said he wouldn't know every one of them, some of them might be among those that work for him. They won't tell him that they admire him, the people who hate them might not know them by face but may begin to suspect all those who work for sasuke are his supporters and start hating on them. If sasuke kills all who work for him his empire won't function.

Do you get it? This so called plan of his is doomed to failure.
 

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Uchiha will be responsible for preventing world wars
 

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i didn't say he won't know about them, I said he wouldn't know every one of them, some of them might be among those that work for him. They won't tell him that they admire him, the people who hate them might not know them by face but may begin to suspect all those who work for sasuke are his supporters and start hating on them. If sasuke kills all who work for him his empire won't function.

Do you get it? This so called plan of his is doomed to failure.

Nobody would be working for him he would be alone he would not have any high rank in society... Just that one person that randomly wanders around and ****s shit up, kills random people, gets people hating him, then disappear... He never once states that there will be a single soul working for him.

So do you get it? The part of his plan that you think will fail won't, simply because the part you are thinking of is nonexistent and was never a part of his plan.
 

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I'm not calling it perfect, I'm calling it the best way to cease conflict. Meanwhile you call it a fantasy :|

Sigh cooperation isn't a system of governing people. A government is much more complicated than that and saying the world in it's entirety is simply cooperating is so vague it hardly makes sense. I can't even get a grasp of what you're trying to say. Not to mention the NV's current system is not explained at all.
 

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Sigh cooperation isn't a system of governing people. A government is much more complicated than that and saying the world in it's entirety is simply cooperating is so vague it hardly makes sense. I can't even get a grasp of what you're trying to say. Not to mention the NV's current system is not explained at all.

No one said a government nor did I say cooperation was governing people. I have said from the beginning that cooperation is working together, not anything with government.

Naruto's method is cooperation, that is getting shinobi to work together. He never said governing over people or everyone. First step is just getting cooperation.
 

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Nobody would be working for him he would be alone he would not have any high rank in society... Just that one person that randomly wanders around and ****s shit up, kills random people, gets people hating him, then disappear... He never once states that there will be a single soul working for him.

So do you get it? The part of his plan that you think will fail won't, simply because the part you are thinking of is nonexistent and was never a part of his plan.

If he is killing people and just leaving then he isn't hokage and there won't be peace, only panic. Sasuke clearly said he would be a hokage in the shadows, just because most things are done by him doesn't mean everything is done by him. He needs a structure where people will work for him

If what you are saying is correct then he is doomed to fail because he won't be able to handle all the multiple tasks. Becoming immortal doesn't make him omniscient or/and omnipotent

Either way, his plan fails whether it is how I think it is or how you think it is.
 

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Indeed, his way of achieving order makes much more sense than Nardo's colorful way of dealing with problems.
 

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Naruto has defeated sasuke so now naruto is ruling over the world. sasuke lost so he had no choice other than to walk behind naruto
 

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No never he would be a dicator :lmao:

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If Sasuke's realistic ideals of abolishing the very system that created, bred and nurtured nearly endless corruption seem like fan-fiction to people here, then they need 'special kids' moniker tattooed on their idiotic faces. Because that is too much stupidity for any decent individual to handle.

War, cross border terrorism, hardliners' murders, mass slaughters, famine and poverty and destruction persistently looming at the door-step of poor villages like Rain that forever suffered the large scale, politically corrupt skirmishes between these Kage ruled villages. A nearly endless supply of shady schemes, unwarranted espionage, treaty breaching, illegal Jutsu hoarding ... the list is just endless as to how bad and filthy this Tobirama created political set-up was, is, and always will be; a set-up Naruto protected.

Treaties were always enforced, along with many other coalitions and safeguards. That clearly worked so well that it resulted in three great wars and gave birth to 4, where the number of people that suffered the consequences of these villages' constant vying and tug-of-war for political supremacy cannot even be counted. That Naruto wankery must be some emotionally sensitive matter if such glaring manga evidences are being ignored.

NB members sure are special!
 

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He should of done a Lelouch...after making everyone hate him, he plans to die...

But he still had salada and more kids to pass on them uchiha genes

That would of raised his character to god status, even further than itachi
 

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There is no overlasting peace.

if Sasuke die, who want to continue his legacy and carry the burden of hatred?

Its because its individual effort or one man game plan

I can see Sasuke's way is the best way if Sasuke is immortal or he can find the best successor
 
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Is it just me or did Sasukes revolution plan make a lot more sense than people give credit for?

Step 1 Lets do this: Abolish the kage system and unite the world
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Step 2 Haters gon hate: Focus all of the worlds hate on 1 person rather than each other
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Step 3 The ultimate sacrifice : Sasuke achieves immortality for all of eternity, so he can be hated on by everyone
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Step 4 Fake but everlasting Peace: Everyone enjoys the cycle of "fake peace" while Sasuke makes sure everyone stays united in the fight against him.


We don't know how Naruto and Sasukes current system of doing things managed to find peace.

Im my opinion the current kages respect Narutos ambition enough after he helped save them in the war. However if that's the case, don't you think the world will eventually turn back into turmoil after he and Sasuke meet their maker?


Eventually people will start fighting again it's basic human nature. Especially since the world is progressing into a more modern age more wars will be fought over resources and politics just like today.


So the current peace is most likely only temporary like Sasuke once said it would be.
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If you disagree with the revolution Sasuke proposed I have one question then....

Do you think Naruto and Sasuke have found a way to make the current peace everlasting or will it crumble in the future once they die?.....
Nah.....

Sasuke was walking down the path of a tainted future. He would of ended up just like Obito, Nagato, Madara, and Indra. Naruto broke the curse.

This is coming from a Sasuke fan.
 

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Naruto has defeated sasuke so now naruto is ruling over the world. sasuke lost so he had no choice other than to walk behind naruto

Naruto rules the world? Sound like everything he goes against. Do you read the manga or do you insist on trolling.
 
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