Sasukes Revolution would have succeeded

[Berserker]

He said something like "I has rinnegan, so I has to be immortal !"

If you have a problem with what is said in the manga then take it up with Kishi. Sasuke states he has multiple ways to achieve immortality. Unless you write the manga then you don't have an argument do you?

Sasuke is not omniscient or omnipresent so even if he abolished the Kage system, he still need people in charge to keep the regular duties like food, money, law and order to continue.

Rinnegan doesn't grant immortality. He says he'll "find a way", but outside of kaguya, Oro's is the closet thing, but there are plenty of flaws in his method of eternal life.

He says he can shoulder the hate, but I call bull. He couldn't even keep his own hatred in check, first itachi, then the village, then danzo. The problem was not the reasons he hated, but the people he affected through his hatred that suffered because of it:

Tried to kill his best friend
Tried to kill Karin to kill Danzo
Wanted to destroy the whole village and kill people not involved with what happened with Itachi
Tried to kill the only girl who loved him for more than looks

Naruto' s way is flawed as well, but I'll take cooperation from somewhat shaky alliance over dictatorship from a dark brooding guy with a god complex any day

That's why Sasuke needed to cut off the rest of his bonds. That way he can completely focus on his goal and remember the people he sacrificed to keep doing what needs to be done.

Sasuke said he has multiple ways to achieve immortality and I'm not one to go against what was said in the manga. Since you disagree how do you think naruto/sasuke will achieve permanent peace for the NV once they die?

 

[seventh 09]

His peace is working together. What percentage of our world doesn't work together? 5%?10%?

i wouldnt really call what we do working together we do business together which is different. in impossible theory because its never gonna happen its the perfect plan if we all forgot about profit and took care of the wordls problems together but you get that luxury when your writting a fictional world

 

[00Rinne]

If Naruto,Sasuke an the other kages can get the other villages that had nothing to do with the war to unite.The peace could last alot longer with them then without them.

 

[JustSomeRandomNinja]

If you have a problem with what is said in the manga then take it up with Kishi. Sasuke states he has multiple ways to achieve immortality. Unless you write the manga then you don't have an argument do you?



That's why Sasuke needed to cut off the rest of his bonds. That way he can completely focus on his goal and remember the people he sacrificed to keep doing what needs to be done.

Sasuke said he has multiple ways to achieve immortality and I'm not one to go against what was said in the manga. Since you disagree how do you think naruto/sasuke will achieve permanent peace for the NV once they die?

Cutting of your bonds will not make you a better person tho. Itachi, Madara, and Kaguya are all examples of what happens when you're so focus on your own ideals that you forget the people close to you. The very same people you're trying to save by your actions in the first place. Itachi flat out told Sasuke not to shoulder all the responsibility on his own. It always ends badly.

Permanent piece can never be truly achieved. Even if there were no wars for 1000 years, eventually someone gonna take it upon themselves that they can run the world better with their system. Even if Sasuke achieved his goal, he's not undefeatable. Look at Kaguya, a literal goddess. As humans you can only do the best you can for peace.

 

[Vanto]

If you have a problem with what is said in the manga then take it up with Kishi. Sasuke states he has multiple ways to achieve immortality. Unless you write the manga then you don't have an argument do you?



That's why Sasuke needed to cut off the rest of his bonds. That way he can completely focus on his goal and remember the people he sacrificed to keep doing what needs to be done.

Sasuke said he has multiple ways to achieve immortality and I'm not one to go against what was said in the manga. Since you disagree how do you think naruto/sasuke will achieve permanent peace for the NV once they die?

I remember him saying that with the rinnegan "immortality is at hand", without giving further explanations.

 

[V h o]

i wouldnt really call what we do working together we do business together which is different. in impossible theory because its never gonna happen its the perfect plan if we all forgot about profit and took care of the wordls problems together but you get that luxury when your writting a fictional world

We still work together, even if it's just trade, there is some form of cooperation at work. Naruto's way is cooperation of shinobi, not whatever fanfic fans proclaim.

 

[Berserker]

Cutting of your bonds will not make you a better person tho. Itachi, Madara, and Kaguya are all examples of what happens when you're so focus on your own ideals that you forget the people close to you. The very same people you're trying to save by your actions in the first place. Itachi flat out told Sasuke not to shoulder all the responsibility on his own. It always ends badly.

Permanent piece can never be truly achieved. Even if there were no wars for 1000 years, eventually someone gonna take it upon themselves that they can run the world better with their system. Even if Sasuke achieved his goal, he's not undefeatable. Look at Kaguya, a literal goddess. As humans you can only do the best you can for peace.

I agree it doesn't make you a good person. In fact is makes you a grave sinner but Sasuke was willing to accept those things about him to make the world a better place. regarding Itachis words you're only preaching the morals set by their standards. although it carried some weight between Itachi and Madara it can't possibly apply to every human being. Especially since Sasuke had the knowledge of what previously happened in NV history to avoid those mistakes.

I can't say whether or not permanent piece can be achieved but as along as free will exist people will do what they want. At least this way Sasuke will be tricking their free will into cooperating with each other. Which is an inhumane crime I would normally disagree with, but it's for the greater good.

His peace is working together. What percentage of our world doesn't work together? 5%?10%?

I can't say honestly but I wouldn't call the current status of our world working together for peace. Countries still fight over territory, political power and the privileged elite still dominate the fates of the majority.

 

[take it easy]

It's as if you just automatically go against anything that supports Sasuke,and make dumb assuptions against him.

He could achieve temporary peace,they would unite together to go against him rather than fight each other.

1. My assumptions based on manga facts and what he said. Sasuke doesn't have any real plan how to change ninja system. All what he said is "I'll kill innocent victims of system! I'll take all your hatred! I'll become kage from the shadow!"
2. War is a war doesn't matter against one person or each other

It was probably the best idea thought of realistically. I don't see how it could fail actually if Sasuke stuck to his resolve until the end. Everyone would stay united in order to fight him and all the hate would be focused on 1 person

I have one question.
What Sasuke will do if people choose hate Konoha instead of him ?

 

[V h o]

I agree it doesn't make you a good person. In fact is makes you a grave sinner but Sasuke was willing to accept those things about him to make the world a better place. regarding Itachis words you're only preaching the morals set by their standards. although it carried some weight between Itachi and Madara it can't possibly apply to every human being. Especially since Sasuke had the knowledge of what previously happened in NV history to avoid those mistakes.

I can't say whether or not permanent piece can be achieved but as along as free will exist people will do what they want. At least this way Sasuke will be tricking their free will into cooperating with each other. Which is an inhumane crime I would normally disagree with, but it's for the greater good.


I can't say honestly but I wouldn't call the current status of our world working together for peace. Countries still fight over territory, political power and the privileged elite still dominate the fates of the majority.

Still didn't answer the question, but want to believe a fictional peace from a story. Cooperation is best. Case closed.

 

[Lightbringer]

There are so many flaws in his system, I don't know where to start.

 

[Berserker]

What Sasuke will do if people choose hate Konoha instead of him ?

Why would people hate Konoha. He was known as a rouge ninja.

Still didn't answer the question, but want to believe a fictional peace from a story. Cooperation is best. Case closed.

I did, but if you want something more straightforward the world isn't peaceful. And I also think you're confusing cooperation with something else entirely.

 

[JustSomeRandomNinja]

I agree it doesn't make you a good person. In fact is makes you a grave sinner but Sasuke was willing to accept those things about him to make the world a better place. regarding Itachis words you're only preaching the morals set by their standards. although it carried some weight between Itachi and Madara it can't possibly apply to every human being. Especially since Sasuke had the knowledge of what previously happened in NV history to avoid those mistakes.

I can't say whether or not permanent piece can be achieved but as along as free will exist people will do what they want. At least this way Sasuke will be tricking their free will into cooperating with each other. Which is an inhumane crime I would normally disagree with, but it's for the greater good.

My thing is both Itachi and Hago gave Sasuke examples on why the lone solider thing is a bad idea. Sasuke may think he can be different by doing it his way, but there will be things he can't account for.

Deceit and absolute control over a person isn't living. The people would be no more than puppets under such a rule. If the people chose Sasuke's rule, then it would a more legitimate peace. But ruling through fear and hatred isn't any real peace. That's my opinion anyway

 

[V h o]

Why would people hate Konoha. He was known as a rouge ninja.


I did, but if you want something more straightforward the world isn't peaceful. And I also think you're confusing cooperation with something else entirely.

No you didn't, I literally ask what percentage of the world isn't working together, and you didn't answer that.

Cooperation is working together, and Naruto's goal/method is shinobi working together, straight from his own mouth.

 

[Nagi]

shit worked out for lelouch. XD

 

[SatanicGod]

Not if Sasuke kills them too.

That is what I was about to say

 

[Nagi]

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My reaction to sasukes revolution. Sorry if the photo don't work

Go watch code geass. Then see if you still feel that way after.

 

[Berserker]

No you didn't, I literally ask what percentage of the world isn't working together, and you didn't answer that.

Cooperation is working together, and Naruto's goal/method is shinobi working together, straight from his own mouth.

Do you know the answer to that? The world isn't cooperating.

 

[SatanicGod]

How will he know each and every one of them? Its not like sasuke's mind is connected to every human. There is no way for him to do that all himself, he clearly didn't put much thought into it.

Well if everybody hates the people that believe in Sasuke, that means they are well known.... Meaning that Sasuke would be able to find out who those people are. Common sense, how can everybody hate somebody or something, yet not know about it?

 

[V h o]

Do you know the answer to that? The world isn't cooperating.

Why do you want me to answer my own question to you? You proclaim cooperation as a fantasy, when cooperation has been one of the few elements to cease conflict in this world.
Obviously it's, hence the unions amongst the world and the trade amongst countries; foreign and domestic cooperation is happening.
People are less likely to fight when working together, that is they have stuff to lose as well.

 

[Berserker]

Why do you want me to answer my own question to you? You proclaim cooperation as a fantasy, when cooperation has been one of the few elements to cease conflict in this world.
Obviously it's, hence the unions amongst the world and the trade amongst countries; foreign and domestic cooperation is happening.
People are less likely to fight when working together, that is they have stuff to lose as well.

You sounded like you knew the answer to your own question. Why would I know the answer to something like that. Cooperation for peace of mankind is a fantasy because people will always dispute internally and externally. It's only a matter of time before these unions are torn down and attack each others throats for resources. You talk as if the world as achieved the peace worldwide but that isn't the case...