No he doesn't, but has Enton instead as a second power.
OT: the only one so far who has the exact same power in both eyes in Shisui, as Obito's differentiate in range.
Remember how kakashi when he was stuck in the kamui dimension he could get images of what was happening on the battlefield Just how obito was able to see what his transplanted eye of kakashi could see when run was killed. Its something about the soul that enabled this. Obitos new arm probably gave him more life force or even more spiritual power due to uchiha and senju blood lines converging. Remember how obito gave kakashi his soul when obito was hit with dead bone pulse.
No he doesn't, but has Enton instead as a second power.
OT: the only one so far who has the exact same power in both eyes in Shisui, as Obito's differentiate in range.
Black/White inverted color scheme... check
Eye strain... Check
Focus on his right MS eye in the page before... Check
Danzo even compared it to Itachi's later on
why would he compare a regular Genjutsu to Tsukuyomi??
It doesn't have to be two separate abilities. The number can vary. Shisui had one, Obito had one ability with two variants, and Sasuke and Itachi had four each.
when an uchiha activates MS,each eye has it's own ability...right?
So why obito and kakashi both have kamui??
Or maybe I missed sth?
It just occurred to my mind...
Kamui is Obito's unique MS tech. The same way only Itachi had Tsukiyomi and only Sasuke had Enton. Shisui had KA as his unique tech as well.
The reason Kakashi had the technique as well was because he was using Obito's sharingan. When MS was awakened, Kakashi didn't do it himself. It was awakened via Obito's chakra being activated via his sad emotions upon seeing Rin die. The reason it activated for Kakashi as well is that even if it wasn't in Obito's head, the eyes were still connected.
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It would only be a different tech than Obito's had a different Uchiha given Kakashi their eye.
And then there's also a factor of not every Uchiha being able to awaken all of their MS techniques or possibly even not having it genetically possible. To our knowledge, the only MS tech Madara showcased was his PS and the only one Shisui had was KA. It's a possibility that they couldn't awaken any more than that. When Itachi was mentioning there being 3 powers, he was referring to himself (and this was true for Sasuke as well since they're brothers and have similar biological make-up). Edo Itachi mentioned that awakening Susano'o for an MS user was rare as well... some Uchiha never could awaken more than their own special MS tech.
Kamui is Obito's unique MS tech. The same way only Itachi had Tsukiyomi and only Sasuke had Enton. Shisui had KA as his unique tech as well.
The reason Kakashi had the technique as well was because he was using Obito's sharingan. When MS was awakened, Kakashi didn't do it himself. It was awakened via Obito's chakra being activated via his sad emotions upon seeing Rin die. The reason it activated for Kakashi as well is that even if it wasn't in Obito's head, the eyes were still connected.
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It would only be a different tech than Obito's had a different Uchiha given Kakashi their eye.
And then there's also a factor of not every Uchiha being able to awaken all of their MS techniques or possibly even not having it genetically possible. To our knowledge, the only MS tech Madara showcased was his PS and the only one Shisui had was KA. It's a possibility that they couldn't awaken any more than that. When Itachi was mentioning there being 3 powers, he was referring to himself (and this was true for Sasuke as well since they're brothers and have similar biological make-up). Edo Itachi mentioned that awakening Susano'o for an MS user was rare as well... some Uchiha never could awaken more than their own special MS tech.
Black/White inverted color scheme... check
Eye strain... Check
Focus on his right MS eye in the page before... Check
Danzo even compared it to Itachi's later on
why would he compare a regular Genjutsu to Tsukuyomi??
Yeah but all the times sasuke has used his MS genjutsu, it has never been called tsukuyomi. Why would kishi go out of his way to do that if they were the same jutsu?
Yeah but all the times sasuke has used his MS genjutsu, it has never been called tsukuyomi. Why would kishi go out of his way to do that if they were the same jutsu?
Yeah but all the times sasuke has used his MS genjutsu, it has never been called tsukuyomi. Why would kishi go out of his way to do that if they were the same jutsu?
Its not the absence of calling it tsukuyomi that bothers me. Its the clear need to call it something different on multiple occasions when he very easily could've labeled it as tsukuyomi. Scans have been provided by other members in earlier post, if you need proof
Its not the absence of calling it tsukuyomi that bothers me. Its the clear need to call it something different on multiple occasions when he very easily could've labeled it as tsukuyomi. Scans have been provided by other members in earlier post, if you need proof
Killer Bee hasn't expressed knowledge on the names of Uchiha techs, so him going "It's a Sharingan illusion makes sense."
As for Sasuke never labeling it Tsukiyomi, it could be because it was so far from Itachi's complete Tsukiyomi. It's so weak in scale, he doesn't call it that. Something similar was seen before when Itachi used a far weaker version of Kagutsuchi, and it wasn't labeled as so, even by him. Not to mention Sasuke only used it once.
Kagutsuchi isn't just turning off the flames. It's shape manipulation which Itachi never showcased, nor did he have.
The entire point behind Tsukiyomi and why it's above other genjutsu isn't it being "black and white" in appearance. It's the manipulation of time. Which Sasuke never achieved.
Itachi never had Kagutsuchi and Sasuke never had Tsukiyomi.
And this has what to do with anything? He wasn't using Tsukiyomi there. And I was mistaken, thinking back, I'm pretty sure he used it on Danzo as well as Kirabi.
Kagutsuchi isn't just turning off the flames. It's shape manipulation which Itachi never showcased, nor did he have.
The entire point behind Tsukiyomi and why it's above other genjutsu isn't it being "black and white" in appearance. It's the manipulation of time. Which Sasuke never achieved.
Itachi never had Kagutsuchi and Sasuke never had Tsukiyomi.
Kagutsuchi is the ability to control the flames, which includes extinguishing and manipulating their shape. In the chapter that Sasuke first demonstrated Kagutsuchi, he extinguished the flames. Every time Sasuke has extinguished Amaterasu, the focus has been on his right eye, and he casts Amaterasu with his left. That supports that extinguishing the flames is a separate ability than Amaterasu, as it's housed in a different eye, the same eye that focus is brought on when Sasuke uses Kagutsuchi. Like I said, Kishi has overestimated the ability of some of you lot to put two and two together.
Danzo said that Sasuke's Genjutsu use was far below Itachi's Tsukiyomi because Itachi could manipulate time with Tsukiyomi. If Itachi is the only person with Tsukiyomi, he would have just said Tsukiyomi. If time manipulation always came with Tsukiyomi, then there'd once again be no point in saying Itachi's Tsukiyomi. Danzo saying Itachi's Tsukiyomi indicates that Itachi is not the only person with Tsukiyomi, since he made a note of specifying Itachi, and that Tsukiyomi doesn't always come with time manipulation, since he specifically noted that was the signature of Itachi's usage.
And this has what to do with anything? He wasn't using Tsukiyomi there. And I was mistaken, thinking back, I'm pretty sure he used it on Danzo as well as Kirabi.
The point is they are both using MS and using genjutsu. If sasuke had tsukuyomi, that wouldwould've been the perfect time to illustrate that point. Why not use a genjutsu as powerful as your brother in that instance? Only answer is because he can't. Its not his specialty.
And if you can find any scans where sasuke uses tsukuyomi. I will stand corrected.
As for as my last post, I started to ramble and my post didnt make much since. I had not taken into consideration EMS users and how there powers work. I understand now maybe its about how many tomoes the user gains. Off the bat, Sasuke is an incarnation. He has 12 tomoes as of this day. Madara used limbo. I have never heard him call out another jutsu name for his Ems but he has susanoo. Madara also has rinnegan. Shisui has a technique which can somehow give someone the impression of who that person is as itachis crow used this ability on sasuke and via crow which he put in Narutos body he used shishuis technique to break from kabutos control. Shisui also has susanoo as stated by unknown but I have seen it. Wiki states that kakashi has sususanoo or had. Do you believe this???? I know right. Wiki has to be lying. Anyway obito awakened his MS with incomplete sharingans and this technique kamui didn't gradually take his light but I guess it takes its toll due to the bleeding in his eye when fighting kaguya. Maybe this should be thanks to hashiramas healing powers in the cells of obito. Obito never displayed having the power of susanoo or awakening his own rinnengan. Being that sasuke is a reincarnation of the eldest son maybe his eyes are even more special. Next I want to point out susanoo
I imagine that someone would have to awaken amaratusu then susanoo but that isn't the point. If you take a look at the names of the jutsus and then look at the mythological background it supports my judgment.
The point is they are both using MS and using genjutsu. If sasuke had tsukuyomi, that wouldwould've been the perfect time to illustrate that point. Why not use a genjutsu as powerful as your brother in that instance? Only answer is because he can't. Its not his specialty.
And if you can find any scans where sasuke uses tsukuyomi. I will stand corrected.
Because he's shit at using Tsukiyomi. His version is extremely weak. Why use a technique you're garbage at rather than a technique you're actually decent at?
Why? Would I waste my time showing you the scans against Danzo and Kirabi when we both know you're gonna deny it because the fact that Tsukiyomi is the ONLY Genjutsu that inverts the color scale and the fact that he does it using the eye opposite of Amaterasu, just like Itachi, isn't good enough for you because you want it explicitly said?
Because he's shit at using Tsukiyomi. His version is extremely weak. Why use a technique you're garbage at rather than a technique you're actually decent at?
Why? Would I waste my time showing you the scans against Danzo and Kirabi when we both know you're gonna deny it because the fact that Tsukiyomi is the ONLY Genjutsu that inverts the color scale and the fact that he does it using the eye opposite of Amaterasu, just like Itachi, isn't good enough for you because you want it explicitly said?
That scan i posted hapoened after alk those sasuke fights you just mentioned. So what youre saying is kishi explicitly wrote tsukuyomi by every scan where itachi used it but couldnt be bothered to do so when sasuke used it???
