Can Naruto created the Truth seeking ball?

[VongolaX]

When Minato took Madara's TSB, Madara wasn't able to create more.

But when they detonate you can still create more like naruto did against Sasuke in the last battle.

Kurama needs to gather more natural energy to creates TSB.

 

[bashkim]

The point is Obito was able, why should Naruto not be able to created them. I think, that Madara did not created them. because it would been useless against Naruto and Sasuke, because their were able to touch them.

 

[cptenn94]

From what we've seen thus far, it's unlikely they can be regenerated once lost. Naruto would be limited to 3 provided he can still access them.

I somewhat disagree.

Here is my opinion. TSB just occur the first time one combines all chakra natures, and yin yang. From the initial, "effortless" creation, TSB cannot be recreated when lost.

However I do believe that any person who still has all the requirements to make TSB(aka naruto with RSM and bijuu elemental chakra), they could learn to recreate it.

I mean take a look at kaguya. She definately began creating one. The only problem with creating them, is that it is INSANELY difficult.

For instance combining just 3 elements(jinton), only 2 ninjas have ever done so far(muu and oonoki)
Combining just 2 elements, is already so difficult, that usually only ninjas from a specific clan can do so.

So combining 5 elements, and the correct mixture of senjutsu, yin and yang energies, is just very difficult, and certainly not something one could do in the middle of a fight(unless one became proficient at making them(see kaguya))


TSB is the most advanced and difficult technique out there. Rasengan(a sphere) is said to be the most difficult shape manipulation. Senjutsu balancing is a difficult thing only a few have learned to do. Chakra nature control, is something it takes years to master. Combining 2 natures to make a new nature is something few people have learned to do(mei oonoki, etc). Learning all 5 chakra natures and mastering them is something only hiruzen has learned to do.

 

[adeshina365]

Of course not. He needs RSM for that.

 

[Merkel]

i think the sage of sixth path power was just a one time deal but hey kishi has proved me wrong many times before

So Sasuke still keeps Rinnegan though right? Seems balanced

 

[Ansatsuken]

I dont think so

 

[SenseiSama]

When Minato took Madara's TSB, Madara wasn't able to create more.

But when they detonate you can still create more like naruto did against Sasuke in the last battle.

Kurama needs to gather more natural energy to creates TSB.

The difference between them is Madara doesn't have the natural body for Sage Mode, his skill with TSB let alone RSM is completely shit compared to Naruto

 

[Ansatsuken]

The difference between them is Madara doesn't have the natural body for Sage Mode, his skill with TSB let alone RSM is completely shit compared to Naruto

And Obito shit both of them in TSB mastery.

 

[lucario14]

He can't create more out of thin air like Kaguya could but I guess he could revert to normal to recharge his chakra and vitality and turn back into RSM.

 

[SenseiSama]

And Obito shit both of them in TSB mastery.

No, Naruto has better control he's able to make separate elements with the TSB, Obito had the Juubi's power to help him. And he had half his body implanted with the Juubi's Mokuton (Zetsu cells). With training Naruto's mastery shits on Obito's since he mastered Sage Mode from a young age.

 

[Ansatsuken]

No, Naruto has better control he's able to make separate elements with the TSB, Obito had the Juubi's power to help him. And he had half his body implanted with the Juubi's Mokuton (Zetsu cells). With training Naruto's mastery shits on Obito's since he mastered Sage Mode from a young age.

He only put elements in his TSB balls, thats all. But Obito can shaped his TSB in various forms.

Putting any elements in TSB is not that hard. Plus TSB itself contained all basic elements and it can accept any KKG from Bijuus easily. If Obito have same capability as Naruto in using Bijuu power, he also can use Bijuu TSB FRS.

The difference is Juubi is single bijuu power with highest level of power while Bijuus is separated entities with their own specialty.

And anything you said about Sage Mode, Zetsu and mokuton here has nothing to do with TSB mastery. Its just your assumption not support by manga.

The highest form of TSB mastery is creating sword of Nunobuko. Until Naruto can create that from TSB, we can talk.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

he should be able to recreate them. It's just combining all chakra natures together. In RSM, he should have understanding/creation of all things. So, it should be possible. He didn't create them in VOTE 2 because plot

He didn't recreate them then because he probably couldn't, and besides Sasuke could easily take them out again with Susano'o arrows.

There would be no point in recreating them at the time.

 

[daredevil123]

So Sasuke still keeps Rinnegan though right? Seems balanced

it really is if you think about it naruto has sage mode and the nine tails seasick only has sharinigan

 

[SenseiSama]

He only put elements in his TSB balls, thats all. But Obito can shaped his TSB in various forms.

Putting any elements in TSB is not that hard. Plus TSB itself contained all basic elements and it can accept any KKG from Bijuus easily. If Obito have same capability as Naruto in using Bijuu power, he also can use Bijuu TSB FRS.

RSM = bijuu power, you just admitted Obito doesn't have Naruto's RSM skill

And if it's so easy then why didn't Obito do it ? Before Naruto Hiruzen was the only shinobi capable of using elements simultaneously and Obito could have use his TSB to counter Rasengan and FRS.

The difference is Juubi is single bijuu power with highest level of power while Bijuus is separated entities with their own specialty.

Agreed but imo that just makes Naruto's RSM stronger and better because he doesn't need the Juubi's Mokuton for regeneration and he has more elements than the Juubi.

And anything you said about Sage Mode, Zetsu and mokuton here has nothing to do with TSB mastery. Its just your assumption not support by manga.

Wrong, it has everything to do with TSB mastery because TSB is a Senpou jutsu. RSM = SM, Sage Mode efficiency depends on the body's ability to control NE.

Madara couldn't control TSB on Obito's level because he didn't have the same amount of Hashirama's cells implanted in his body, hence he had less ability to use RSM's full power. If you noticed, Madara only used Rinnegan jutsu.

Naruto can absorb as much NE as a Juubi now and bijuus will keep replenishing his chakra.

Furthermore, because Uzumakis inherited the Gedo Mazo's traits he only needs a portion of the bijuus chakra to have the same power as the Juubi's.

His RSM is superior to Obito's. Why ? Because Naruto + Sasuke = JJ Madara = Kaguya.

The highest form of TSB mastery is creating sword of Nunobuko. Until Naruto can create that from TSB, we can talk.

Lel, yes the same sword that failed against BSM and EMS. That's enough proof to suggest Obito's skill didn't equat to power. He lacked Naruto's body hence why his TSB failed against opponents below Hagoromo's level. His TSB control is essentially weaker than Naruto's.

 

[Ansatsuken]

RSM = bijuu power, you just admitted Obito doesn't have Naruto's RSM skill

And if it's so easy then why didn't Obito do it ? Before Naruto Hiruzen was the only shinobi capable of using elements simultaneously and Obito could have use his TSB to counter Rasengan and FRS.

Can you read my post. Its because Juubi is not separated Bijuu. Its fact. When you becoming Juubi jin you cant used Bijuus special attack.

I think you can differentiate it

Do you think if Naruto becoming Juubi jin he can use all Bijuu power? I want fact from Manga or Data book and not your home-made assumption.

Agreed but imo that just makes Naruto's RSM stronger and better because he doesn't need the Juubi's Mokuton for regeneration and he has more elements than the Juubi.

Just another of your made up assumption that manga never stated. Where in manga said Juubi used mokuton for regeneration. Its because Shinju and Kaguya is immortal and Juubi is immortal also. Not because of Mokuton.

More elements BS, Im dont know how or the way you're thinking. You are making thing complicated yourself

All special elements still came from Basic 6 elements that Juubi possessed


Wrong, it has everything to do with TSB mastery because TSB is a Senpou jutsu. RSM = SM, Sage Mode efficiency depends on the body's ability to control NE.

Madara couldn't control TSB on Obito's level because he didn't have the same amount of Hashirama's cells implanted in his body, hence he had less ability to use RSM's full power. If you noticed, Madara only used Rinnegan jutsu.

Naruto can absorb as much NE as a Juubi now and bijuus will keep replenishing his chakra.

Look more BS from you, where in manga or DB stated anything you post above is related to TSB mastery? Another made-up assumption without concrete back up.

Where in the manga said Hashirama cells effected your TSB control and mastery?

How do you know Juubi chakra level? Absorbing larger amount NE around the planet still not make you equaled Juubi overall power and capability.

Its like saying if Naruto can do that he is equal to Kaguya and Shinju. Thats not right as the power Gap between Naruto and Kaguya alone is still big.

Furthermore, because Uzumakis inherited the Gedo Mazo's traits he only needs a portion of the bijuus chakra to have the same power as the Juubi's.

His RSM is superior to Obito's. Why ? Because Naruto + Sasuke = JJ Madara = Kaguya.
There is no way JJ Madara=Kaguya. Many will not agree with you here



Lel, yes the same sword that failed against BSM and EMS. That's enough proof to suggest Obito's skill didn't equat to power. He lacked Naruto's body hence why his TSB failed against opponents below Hagoromo's level. His TSB control is essentially weaker than Naruto's.

Another fan-fic or home made fact from you. Its already stated in manga why Obito Nunobuko Sword failed. Its because Obito emotion or feeling effected that sword performance. And not because he lack Body power or TSB mastery. When his feeling get disrupted by uncertainty or bad feelings, this sword will lost its power.

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Do you read manga and understand it properly or you just creating your own words.

My reply to you is mainly a question that you need to answer. Because most of it is just your home-made theory or assumption.